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  • Dr Death
    Air Raid
    • May 2009
    • 1632

    #16
    Re: The Hope for NCAA Video Games in the Immediate Future is Dim (Podcast)

    Originally posted by bugkill1sf
    This is where Madden needs to come in play. I would recommend that they integrate NCAA Football into Madden and here is how it is should go down. The idea would be that when you play career as a player or coach, you would start out in college and all the models are randomly generated (too avoid lawsuits), but fully editable like in NCAA Football games. You will only have up to 4 years and then head to the draft as a player or get offers as a coach, then you would progress into Madden.

    There is no real need to make a NCAA Football game anymore because adding some features in Madden where draft classes and created players can still transfer into the Madden Game and you will have at least 4 seasons of college football, so it will be enough of filler until they work out all the legal stuff. It would keep the game going and greatly enhance Madden. The idea is raw, but I think it would be great to integrate the games.
    I understand what you're saying, but in real life how many college coaches start getting NFL offers after just four years? Zero!

    The other problem with your scenario is that there are those of us who much prefer the college game to the pro game... so while your idea would bring college gaming back... only being able to play it for four seasons would be a real drag.

    Now... if you had the chance to return to college as a coach after your NFL career as a player ended, and you could stay in college IF you wanted to, that might be something that would work.

    But there's no way people would want to be restricted to only four years of college and the rest being Madden...
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    • herropreese
      Pro
      • Jul 2011
      • 552

      #17
      Re: The Hope for NCAA Video Games in the Immediate Future is Dim (Podcast)

      The thought of a joint NCAA/Madden game it kind of exciting. IF they were able to be played essentially as they are now...but with added intertwining of the dynasty/franchises.

      Could you imagine having a huge online dyachise with people coaching in the NCAA and NFL at the same time? They could synchronize the ratings system so the NCAA players are obviously worse, etc.

      The storylines could be immense. A coach that gets bumped up to the NFL playing a team with a former player he coached or something. Talking about the crazy new #1 who tore it up in the NCAA last season.

      Have a mode where you could play Ohio State against the Browns (just for the fun of it).

      Naturally there are other things I'm probably missing that would be great, but still. It would be wonderful.

      ...but I dream.

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      • bugkill1sf
        Rookie
        • Mar 2012
        • 73

        #18
        Re: The Hope for NCAA Video Games in the Immediate Future is Dim (Podcast)

        Originally posted by Dr Death
        I understand what you're saying, but in real life how many college coaches start getting NFL offers after just four years? Zero!

        The other problem with your scenario is that there are those of us who much prefer the college game to the pro game... so while your idea would bring college gaming back... only being able to play it for four seasons would be a real drag.

        Now... if you had the chance to return to college as a coach after your NFL career as a player ended, and you could stay in college IF you wanted to, that might be something that would work.

        But there's no way people would want to be restricted to only four years of college and the rest being Madden...

        Well, my idea was pointed towards the career mode and the more years to build up your rep and get hired at the NFL level as a coach, the better (player will be locked at four).

        I think Madden needs to expand to include NCAA. It would be the ultimate football simulator.
        Last edited by bugkill1sf; 01-30-2015, 06:31 PM.

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        • FeeDizzal
          Rookie
          • Feb 2015
          • 9

          #19
          Anyone working on College Football 14 updated rosters since the signings?

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          • BadAssHskr
            XSX
            • Jun 2003
            • 3540

            #20
            Re: The Hope for NCAA Video Games in the Immediate Future is Dim (Podcast)

            Originally posted by bugkill1sf
            This is where Madden needs to come in play. I would recommend that they integrate NCAA Football into Madden and here is how it is should go down. The idea would be that when you play career as a player or coach, you would start out in college and all the models are randomly generated (too avoid lawsuits), but fully editable like in NCAA Football games. You will only have up to 4 years and then head to the draft as a player or get offers as a coach, then you would progress into Madden.

            There is no real need to make a NCAA Football game anymore because adding some features in Madden where draft classes and created players can still transfer into the Madden Game and you will have at least 4 seasons of college football, so it will be enough of filler until they work out all the legal stuff. It would keep the game going and greatly enhance Madden. The idea is raw, but I think it would be great to integrate the games.

            great idea, and just dump the 4 year thing for those who want to coach.
            "Not the victory but the action. Not the goal but the game. In the deed the glory."

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            • cowboy_kmoney
              MVP
              • Jun 2008
              • 1621

              #21
              Re: The Hope for NCAA Video Games in the Immediate Future is Dim (Podcast)

              Hope they get something done.

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              • Jbo15
                Rookie
                • Feb 2015
                • 19

                #22
                Re: The Hope for NCAA Video Games in the Immediate Future is Dim (Podcast)

                This is what I don't understand.

                The issue is with player likenesses and not university licensing correct?

                So why don't they just put out a game with the real colleges where the players bear no likeness to the actual rosters. (No "real" players)

                Most of us here play dynasties beyond 4 years. After 4 years, player likenesses become a moot point.

                In fact, I prefer the game after 4 years because I am playing with "my own recruits." I have never bought the game to play with this or that real college player. I buy it for the long haul dynasties of made up dudes.

                Why can't we have a game with real schools (and maybe even real coaches and playbooks/tendencies) and made up dudes? Would it not sell?

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                • mercalnd
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2004
                  • 4262

                  #23
                  Re: The Hope for NCAA Video Games in the Immediate Future is Dim (Podcast)

                  Originally posted by Jbo15
                  This is what I don't understand.

                  The issue is with player likenesses and not university licensing correct?

                  So why don't they just put out a game with the real colleges where the players bear no likeness to the actual rosters. (No "real" players)

                  Most of us here play dynasties beyond 4 years. After 4 years, player likenesses become a moot point.

                  In fact, I prefer the game after 4 years because I am playing with "my own recruits." I have never bought the game to play with this or that real college player. I buy it for the long haul dynasties of made up dudes.

                  Why can't we have a game with real schools (and maybe even real coaches and playbooks/tendencies) and made up dudes? Would it not sell?
                  Ea was willing to continue even after losing their NCAA license. It's when the conferences and schools actually started pulling out of their license agreements that EA canceled the game. So while the issues arose because of player likenesses, EA lost the right to use many schools and conferences, making a proper college game all but impossible.

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                  • jyod21
                    Rookie
                    • Mar 2014
                    • 371

                    #24
                    Re: The Hope for NCAA Video Games in the Immediate Future is Dim (Podcast)

                    Originally posted by Jbo15
                    This is what I don't understand.

                    The issue is with player likenesses and not university licensing correct?

                    So why don't they just put out a game with the real colleges where the players bear no likeness to the actual rosters. (No "real" players)

                    Most of us here play dynasties beyond 4 years. After 4 years, player likenesses become a moot point.

                    In fact, I prefer the game after 4 years because I am playing with "my own recruits." I have never bought the game to play with this or that real college player. I buy it for the long haul dynasties of made up dudes.

                    Why can't we have a game with real schools (and maybe even real coaches and playbooks/tendencies) and made up dudes? Would it not sell?
                    This would be all I would need, too. Just focus on the Universities and the coaches. Have the game generate a completely made up roster, based off of the Universities prestige, plus the coaches attributes and tendencies (ex: The game would generate running qb's and FB's to Georgia Tech). Once I'm into the actual dynasty, I don't give a crap about the original roster.

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                    • jyod21
                      Rookie
                      • Mar 2014
                      • 371

                      #25
                      Re: The Hope for NCAA Video Games in the Immediate Future is Dim (Podcast)

                      Originally posted by mercalnd
                      Ea was willing to continue even after losing their NCAA license. It's when the conferences and schools actually started pulling out of their license agreements that EA canceled the game. So while the issues arose because of player likenesses, EA lost the right to use many schools and conferences, making a proper college game all but impossible.
                      Wasn't it just like the University of Washington, and just a few other schools? I can't recall exactly how all of this went down, but I do remember what you are talking about.

                      I wonder how difficult it would be for EA to re-license those schools. I would still like if they attempted to continue, and just left out the schools that will not give EA the rights to use their likeness. After a few iterations, you would think those schools would come back. It's essentially free marketing for their athletic programs. That may be an opportunity for EA to work with the FCS schools to a much greater degree.

                      I don't have much knowledge on the legality of everything though, so I'm just doing some wishful thinking out loud.

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                      • jello1717
                        All Star
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 5720

                        #26
                        Re: The Hope for NCAA Video Games in the Immediate Future is Dim (Podcast)

                        Originally posted by jyod21
                        Wasn't it just like the University of Washington, and just a few other schools? I can't recall exactly how all of this went down, but I do remember what you are talking about.



                        I wonder how difficult it would be for EA to re-license those schools. I would still like if they attempted to continue, and just left out the schools that will not give EA the rights to use their likeness. After a few iterations, you would think those schools would come back. It's essentially free marketing for their athletic programs. That may be an opportunity for EA to work with the FCS schools to a much greater degree.



                        I don't have much knowledge on the legality of everything though, so I'm just doing some wishful thinking out loud.

                        It was a few conferences and a few schools, but then EA dropped the game. It's likely that more schools would've bowed out if EA hadn't cancelled the series.


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                        • blakeharrell
                          Rookie
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 48

                          #27
                          Re: The Hope for NCAA Video Games in the Immediate Future is Dim (Podcast)

                          The Solid Verbal ‏@SolidVerbal 53 minutes ago
                          EA Source: "Tell us who and how much to pay, we’ll make it happen." RT @soyeonfriend: How much longer until we get a new NCAA football game?

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                          • firesloth
                            Rookie
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 79

                            #28
                            Re: The Hope for NCAA Video Games in the Immediate Future is Dim (Podcast)

                            Originally posted by jello1717
                            It was a few conferences and a few schools, but then EA dropped the game. It's likely that more schools would've bowed out if EA hadn't cancelled the series.

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                            The most important ones were Ohio State and the SEC pulling out. But, you're right: more schools almost certainly would have followed.

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                            • Yeah...THAT Guy
                              Once in a Lifetime Memory
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 17294

                              #29
                              Re: The Hope for NCAA Video Games in the Immediate Future is Dim (Podcast)

                              I was never a huge college football fan (being a Syracuse fan, I have very little to cheer for lol), but I just love where EA was going with the NCAA game. I got desperate this past week and went back to my 360 to fire it up, but the drop off from PS4 to Xbox 360 is just so big that it takes a lot away from playing it.

                              I would do terrible things to get NCAA Football and College Hoops 2k back.
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                              • Kodos
                                Rookie
                                • May 2003
                                • 216

                                #30
                                Re: The Hope for NCAA Video Games in the Immediate Future is Dim (Podcast)

                                Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
                                I was never a huge college football fan (being a Syracuse fan, I have very little to cheer for lol), but I just love where EA was going with the NCAA game. I got desperate this past week and went back to my 360 to fire it up, but the drop off from PS4 to Xbox 360 is just so big that it takes a lot away from playing it.

                                I would do terrible things to get NCAA Football and College Hoops 2k back.
                                And I would support you for doing those terrible things.

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