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  • bronxbombers21325
    MVP
    • Mar 2012
    • 3035

    #391
    Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Cubs vs. Pirates: Full Game (Archive Available)

    Originally posted by tnixen
    Was the Red Sox logo removed from the in field? As I am pretty sure they do not have that any more in real life.

    Also will the Green Monster scoreboard be fully working again or is it still broke? By broken I mean for example The Balls, Strikes and Outs do not light up on the PS4 version. Also The wrong number show for At Bat. I think I did hear the division standings now update in real time which is really cool.
    I believe they still use the hanging Sox in the infield grass during the playoffs. Aside from that I haven't seen them put it there.

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    • Skyboxer
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      • Jul 2002
      • 20317

      #392
      Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Cubs vs. Pirates: Full Game (Archive Available)

      Maybe already talked about (haven't really went through everything) but is there any way to get shadows on the baserunners in the base running window?
      I know it's a small thing but was wondering. No real biggie.
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      • A_Quiet_Pro
        Banned
        • Feb 2013
        • 2574

        #393
        Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Cubs vs. Pirates: Full Game (Archive Available)

        Originally posted by NAFBUC
        SCEA has zero control over a player reporting to spring training with a beard (Adam Jones) and then decides to shave later. When you think about it, SCEA was proactive to include AJ with a beard.

        Another example is Dustin Pedroia who was all in on the Red Sox team beard bonding the previous year, and started last season with the beard. Dustin shaved his beard during the season and what can you do?

        Unless we can edit player features, nothing SCEA can do with the beard.
        I will say, although it was cool seeing the new beard visuals in the game, especially on Pedey, seeing him ONLY like that was kinda annoying. He would only wear a beard like that in the playoffs.

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        • A_Quiet_Pro
          Banned
          • Feb 2013
          • 2574

          #394
          Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Cubs vs. Pirates: Full Game (Archive Available)

          Originally posted by Skyboxer
          Maybe already talked about (haven't really went through everything) but is there any way to get shadows on the baserunners in the base running window?
          I know it's a small thing but was wondering. No real biggie.
          If you're talking about the windows showing the runners on the base paths, they dont exist anymore... there is no more player animations in this sense... (reference is 5:40 from part 2 of 2).

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          • pirates1fan
            Rookie
            • Dec 2012
            • 185

            #395
            Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Cubs vs. Pirates: Full Game (Archive Available)

            Originally posted by NDAlum
            Nitpick: I really want the Pirates jerseys to be a more black color and not so faded looking...
            Another nitpick, the Jolly Roger on the Pirates uniform has white bats in real life, not gold. Really, not a big deal to me though, just joining in.

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            • HealyMonster
              Titans Era has begun.
              • Aug 2002
              • 5997

              #396
              Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Cubs vs. Pirates: Full Game (Archive Available)

              Originally posted by Madden's Jowels
              It's not unchanged. Did you watch the stream at all? Centerfield at PNC is now fully lit.

              People have been discussing whether the crowds/batters eye and/or the cityscape should be lit brighter, but the actual field is now lit up and much improved.
              I did watch the stream, and it's still,darker than the rest of the field. Not sure why they are having such problems with lighting.

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              • Hockeynut99
                MVP
                • Jan 2013
                • 1328

                #397
                Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Cubs vs. Pirates: Full Game (Archive Available)

                I have a feeling when you are on ground level especially at home plate the lights would be too bright to see the things really lit up in the background.

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                • Kernel Pie
                  Rookie
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 205

                  #398
                  Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Cubs vs. Pirates: Full Game (Archive Available)

                  Originally posted by Knight165
                  Haha....you call one of the hardest working, most open dev teams in the gaming industry LAZY(you did....there is no denying it) and you want respect?

                  HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHa
                  ha....
                  har....
                  hardy...har....har.

                  C'mon, get real.

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                  Knight165
                  Quote the words "development team" or "they are" in my original post. It's easy to attack a strawman, isn't it?

                  But I don't blame you -- I would build a strawman, too, if I wanted to deflect from the central argument, which is that they are rehashing the same low-variety, outdated, utterly stale on-the-field presentation animations for the last 4 years. "That is" (not "they are") lazy - or whatever other adjective you'd like to attach to it.

                  There is no defense for not adding to or updating the animations, especially considering the game is now on a next-gen system and is the only baseball game on the market. If you play this game in broadcast mode this year, and have played any one of MLB 12, 13, or 14, you have basically already seen every single presentation animation relative to the flow or excitement of every single game you will play in MLB 15 from the moment you open the wrapper. And that's not stale to you?

                  Players (especially pitchers) have no individuality or variety, batters have like 10 walkups and swing motions to choose from for 200+ hitters in a league, the dugout basically doesn't exist, and the only fan we see is one of the Devs holding a sign during the lineup call.

                  To me, and I'm sure to a lot of other long-time supporters, not adding at least a few new animations (I mean 20-30 new pitcher/batter reactions would've killed you?) is a huge disappointment and a major letdown for the game's first true release on the PS4.

                  If this game had a competitor this year, I would have flat-out jumped ship after seeing this video.

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                  • cubby blue
                    Pro
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 608

                    #399
                    Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Cubs vs. Pirates: Full Game (Archive Available)

                    Originally posted by Kernel Pie
                    Quote the words "development team" or "they are" in my original post. It's easy to attack a strawman, isn't it?

                    But I don't blame you -- I would build a strawman, too, if I wanted to deflect from the central argument, which is that they are rehashing the same low-variety, outdated, utterly stale on-the-field presentation animations for the last 4 years. "That is" (not "they are") lazy - or whatever other adjective you'd like to attach to it.

                    There is no defense for not adding to or updating the animations, especially considering the game is now on a next-gen system and is the only baseball game on the market. If you play this game in broadcast mode this year, and have played any one of MLB 12, 13, or 14, you have basically already seen every single presentation animation relative to the flow or excitement of every single game you will play in MLB 15 from the moment you open the wrapper. And that's not stale to you?

                    Players (especially pitchers) have no individuality or variety, batters have like 10 walkups and swing motions to choose from for 200+ hitters in a league, the dugout basically doesn't exist, and the only fan we see is one of the Devs holding a sign during the lineup call.

                    To me, and I'm sure to a lot of other long-time supporters, not adding at least a few new animations (I mean 20-30 new pitcher/batter reactions would've killed you?) is a huge disappointment and a major letdown for the game's first true release on the PS4.

                    If this game had a competitor this year, I would have flat-out jumped ship after seeing this video.
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                    • thaSLAB
                      [Player 1]
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 4496

                      #400
                      Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Cubs vs. Pirates: Full Game (Archive Available)

                      Originally posted by Kernel Pie
                      Quote the words "development team" or "they are" in my original post. It's easy to attack a strawman, isn't it?

                      But I don't blame you -- I would build a strawman, too, if I wanted to deflect from the central argument, which is that they are rehashing the same low-variety, outdated, utterly stale on-the-field presentation animations for the last 4 years. "That is" (not "they are") lazy - or whatever other adjective you'd like to attach to it.

                      There is no defense for not adding to or updating the animations, especially considering the game is now on a next-gen system and is the only baseball game on the market. If you play this game in broadcast mode this year, and have played any one of MLB 12, 13, or 14, you have basically already seen every single presentation animation relative to the flow or excitement of every single game you will play in MLB 15 from the moment you open the wrapper. And that's not stale to you?

                      Players (especially pitchers) have no individuality or variety, batters have like 10 walkups and swing motions to choose from for 200+ hitters in a league, the dugout basically doesn't exist, and the only fan we see is one of the Devs holding a sign during the lineup call.

                      To me, and I'm sure to a lot of other long-time supporters, not adding at least a few new animations (I mean 20-30 new pitcher/batter reactions would've killed you?) is a huge disappointment and a major letdown for the game's first true release on the PS4.

                      If this game had a competitor this year, I would have flat-out jumped ship after seeing this video.
                      There's always RBI Baseball, Super Mega Baseball, and Pro Yakyuu Spirits (which didn't even make the jump to next gen) - so technically, there is competition. Although, competition (or lack thereof) has 0 bearing on how the game is developed. Or you can play old games from other competitors, because they had 100s of batter walk up animations right? Anyway, no one is forcing you to buy the game.

                      As for the first part of your post, everyone here can understand the inference of what you typed.

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                      • geisterhome
                        MVP
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 2101

                        #401
                        Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Cubs vs. Pirates: Full Game (Archive Available)

                        Originally posted by Kernel Pie
                        Quote the words "development team" or "they are" in my original post. It's easy to attack a strawman, isn't it?

                        But I don't blame you -- I would build a strawman, too, if I wanted to deflect from the central argument, which is that they are rehashing the same low-variety, outdated, utterly stale on-the-field presentation animations for the last 4 years. "That is" (not "they are") lazy - or whatever other adjective you'd like to attach to it.

                        There is no defense for not adding to or updating the animations, especially considering the game is now on a next-gen system and is the only baseball game on the market. If you play this game in broadcast mode this year, and have played any one of MLB 12, 13, or 14, you have basically already seen every single presentation animation relative to the flow or excitement of every single game you will play in MLB 15 from the moment you open the wrapper. And that's not stale to you?

                        Players (especially pitchers) have no individuality or variety, batters have like 10 walkups and swing motions to choose from for 200+ hitters in a league, the dugout basically doesn't exist, and the only fan we see is one of the Devs holding a sign during the lineup call.

                        To me, and I'm sure to a lot of other long-time supporters, not adding at least a few new animations (I mean 20-30 new pitcher/batter reactions would've killed you?) is a huge disappointment and a major letdown for the game's first true release on the PS4.

                        If this game had a competitor this year, I would have flat-out jumped ship after seeing this video.
                        Ok so as you say the devs aren't lazy. I agree that the cut scene animations as well the commentary as 2 center-pieces of the presentation are becoming very stale in this game. Not that they are bad, for my taste the can keep all of what is in the game already, but add lines to the commentary and some new animations here and there every year, while all the old ones can remain. I think nobody wants a complete overhaul, just keep adding stuff like that.
                        This hasn't really been a focus as it seems for a few years now.
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                        • Chris_SCEA_Sports
                          MLB Lead Animator
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 382

                          #402
                          Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Cubs vs. Pirates: Full Game (Archive Available)

                          Originally posted by Kernel Pie
                          Quote the words "development team" or "they are" in my original post. It's easy to attack a strawman, isn't it?

                          But I don't blame you -- I would build a strawman, too, if I wanted to deflect from the central argument, which is that they are rehashing the same low-variety, outdated, utterly stale on-the-field presentation animations for the last 4 years. "That is" (not "they are") lazy - or whatever other adjective you'd like to attach to it.

                          There is no defense for not adding to or updating the animations, especially considering the game is now on a next-gen system and is the only baseball game on the market. If you play this game in broadcast mode this year, and have played any one of MLB 12, 13, or 14, you have basically already seen every single presentation animation relative to the flow or excitement of every single game you will play in MLB 15 from the moment you open the wrapper. And that's not stale to you?

                          Players (especially pitchers) have no individuality or variety, batters have like 10 walkups and swing motions to choose from for 200+ hitters in a league, the dugout basically doesn't exist, and the only fan we see is one of the Devs holding a sign during the lineup call.

                          To me, and I'm sure to a lot of other long-time supporters, not adding at least a few new animations (I mean 20-30 new pitcher/batter reactions would've killed you?) is a huge disappointment and a major letdown for the game's first true release on the PS4.

                          If this game had a competitor this year, I would have flat-out jumped ship after seeing this video.
                          Thanks for your feedback, we appreciate it.

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                          • Kaiser Wilhelm
                            MVP
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 2801

                            #403
                            Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Cubs vs. Pirates: Full Game (Archive Available)

                            Didn't see much variety in the hit trajectories. I'm guessing there are still only seven well hit trajectories, of which five are outs. It gets really tiring watching line drives come off the bat at less than 40mph.
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                            • econoodle
                              MVP
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 4885

                              #404
                              Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Cubs vs. Pirates: Full Game (Archive Available)

                              this is my first look at The Show in any form on the ps4 and i am stunned to see the presentation the same as it ever was.

                              same batter walk up osds.
                              same generic team standings osd
                              same lineup card.
                              same pitcher scouting report osd [speed of pitches?]

                              incredible.

                              disappointed in sony for neglecting this again.
                              the game feels like its stuck in molasses.

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                              • Kernel Pie
                                Rookie
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 205

                                #405
                                Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Cubs vs. Pirates: Full Game (Archive Available)

                                Originally posted by thaSLAB
                                There's always RBI Baseball, Super Mega Baseball, and Pro Yakyuu Spirits (which didn't even make the jump to next gen) - so technically, there is competition.
                                It's sad that it has to come to that, though -- especially for loyal customers and diehard baseball fans who appreciated where the game was at 4 years ago relative to the competition; but who, just as validly, disapprove of where it is now, considering the hardware they are using, the length of time it's been in development, and the resources at their disposal.

                                And I am glad you brought up PYS so I didn't have to. In a side-by-side comparison of a year-old game (PYS '14) on inferior hardware (PS3), to this video of MLB 15 on the PS4, a person so inclined could easily and clearly demonstrate instances where PYS is vastly superior in player models, swing mechanics, pitcher/catcher motions, running animations, bat/ball contact physics, and just basic baseball animations in general (irrespective of whatever it may do worse).

                                But hey, if you and others think the Show's animations, presentation, and player models are up to speed with other sports games using the same hardware (or some even using inferior hardware), and if you feel this effort is worth your time and money, then have at it. I honestly (and sadly) don't, as I was really looking forward to the game as always.

                                Maybe I will brush up on my Japanese and give PYS a shot. Peace, no hate! - it's just my honest opinion as a long-time fan.

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