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  • bigwill33
    MVP
    • Jul 2002
    • 2281

    #106
    Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Live Gameplay with Senior A.I. Programmer

    Something that has bothered me from the streams is that I am having a hard time telling when batters are fouling off balls at the plate.

    Hoping that it is just because I am not playing myself, but the way the camera is setup and the post pitch reactions I cannot get a grasp on a swing and a miss versus a foul back or out of play when the camera doesn't follow the ball.

    Not sure if it is just me or if others have had the same issues.

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    • HypoLuxa13
      MVP
      • Feb 2007
      • 1156

      #107
      Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Live Gameplay with Senior A.I. Programmer

      Originally posted by capa
      Thats good news. Honestly, it should be removed. Or maybe 1 in 100 throws over he throws it away...but not in the stands! It just does not happen as currently reflected in MLB14.

      C
      Leave it in, make it much, much less frequent, and change it to a ball in the dirt that skips past the first baseman (since in real life, most throw-aways on pick offs at first base are of this variety). Yeah, the launch into the crowd rarely ever happens in real life.

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      • Sip_16
        Rookie
        • Feb 2013
        • 351

        #108
        Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Live Gameplay with Senior A.I. Programmer

        Originally posted by bigwill33
        Something that has bothered me from the streams is that I am having a hard time telling when batters are fouling off balls at the plate.

        Hoping that it is just because I am not playing myself, but the way the camera is setup and the post pitch reactions I cannot get a grasp on a swing and a miss versus a foul back or out of play when the camera doesn't follow the ball.

        Not sure if it is just me or if others have had the same issues.
        I thought that too but then also realized that you would hear the sound of the bat on a foul if you were playing yourself with the sound more amplified then watching the stream.

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        • bigwill33
          MVP
          • Jul 2002
          • 2281

          #109
          Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Live Gameplay with Senior A.I. Programmer

          Originally posted by Sip_16
          I thought that too but then also realized that you would hear the sound of the bat on a foul if you were playing yourself with the sound more amplified then watching the stream.
          That is true and a good point.

          And the stuff fouled into the dirt is easy to pick up on. Just wished that it was more prevalent on the line drives hit back to the net and what not.

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          • Padgoi
            Banned
            • Oct 2008
            • 1873

            #110
            Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Live Gameplay with Senior A.I. Programmer

            Originally posted by Pared
            This could be really simple. Put a randomizer in its decision making. The game knows when to trigger the event. When it's on the CPU side you randomize whether they challenge the call.

            Unless they haven't coded in bad calls purposefully for the CPU side. Then it's more work than I'm describing.
            This is what's bothering me about the CPU not making challenges. Woodweaver himself said the AI gets the right call. But the user doesn't? How is this fair? The CPU always gets the right call, but the user has to know when the umpire gets the call wrong to use their challenges? And if we choose not to challenge a play and the call was wrong, we as the user are stuck with the wrong call, but the CPU never is? This doesn't seem fair at all. And, in year's past, the developers always said the game cannot differentiate between which team is the user and which team is the CPU. This doesn't seem true this year based on this challenge logic?

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            • MrOldboy
              MVP
              • Feb 2011
              • 2653

              #111
              Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Live Gameplay with Senior A.I. Programmer

              All I have left to see is what Wrigley looks like in the game this year. They showed off Busch last stream so why not Wrigley since that is probably the most drastic change from last year.

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              • Blzer
                Resident film pundit
                • Mar 2004
                • 42508

                #112
                Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Live Gameplay with Senior A.I. Programmer

                Originally posted by MrOldboy
                All I have left to see is what Wrigley looks like in the game this year. They showed off Busch last stream so why not Wrigley since that is probably the most drastic change from last year.
                Personally I'd like to see if there were any color corrections made to Chase Field (though they have explained why the wall colors were different for their games in the past, I'm curious if their new algorithm has addressed this). Of course, it would be a bigger thing to look at if they had the closed roof, but that's not in this year.

                So I'd agree, either Wrigley or maybe PETCO Park with the outfield/bullpen/scoreboard changes, plus the new-look Padres. Heck, they can square off against the new-look Cubs.

                Whatever the case, let's see an 11:00 or 4:00 start!
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                • bigwill33
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 2281

                  #113
                  Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Live Gameplay with Senior A.I. Programmer

                  Kirby hits with pitchers about as well as I seem to during my franchise.

                  I am way more selective with them and work the counts and then use contact and defend the plate. My pitchers are constantly drawing walks or reaching base via the hit.

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                  • bluclws22
                    Rookie
                    • Mar 2014
                    • 23

                    #114
                    I would so want to take on Kirby in this game. I hope the devs give us a chance to do so after launch lol.

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                    • kehlis
                      Moderator
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 27738

                      #115
                      Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Live Gameplay with Senior A.I. Programmer

                      Originally posted by P.A.D.
                      This is what's bothering me about the CPU not making challenges. Woodweaver himself said the AI gets the right call. But the user doesn't? How is this fair? The CPU always gets the right call, but the user has to know when the umpire gets the call wrong to use their challenges? And if we choose not to challenge a play and the call was wrong, we as the user are stuck with the wrong call, but the CPU never is? This doesn't seem fair at all. And, in year's past, the developers always said the game cannot differentiate between which team is the user and which team is the CPU. This doesn't seem true this year based on this challenge logic?

                      You don't choose anything.

                      Challenges are done automatically.

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                      • Blzer
                        Resident film pundit
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 42508

                        #116
                        Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Live Gameplay with Senior A.I. Programmer

                        Originally posted by kehlis
                        You don't choose anything.

                        Challenges are done automatically.
                        I think the automation comes in the form of whether or not the game allows you to challenge, though. It won't automatically challenge for you if you don't want to lose your challenge, of course. As I see it, we simply can't will our manager out there on our own.

                        Anyone remember 2K6 when you could argue calls? That was kind of fun. You got to try and argue by tapping A/X or something and keep it within a certain meter so your team could get a morale boost and your manager wouldn't be ejected. I forget if the game prompted when we wanted to argue as well. I believe it did.
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                        • Chris_SCEA_Sports
                          MLB Lead Animator
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 382

                          #117
                          Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Live Gameplay with Senior A.I. Programmer

                          Originally posted by Peter_OS
                          A little of a nitpick but the bat flip after a swing and strike/foul tip is a bit annoying. Seeing it too many times in the game. I hope they tone this down in future iterations of the game.
                          Someone else on here mentioned this as well, and I agree.

                          I just added those anims to the list to recapture for next year and add more variety.

                          Thanks for the input.

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                          • Go Yankees
                            Banned
                            • Feb 2015
                            • 187

                            #118
                            Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Live Gameplay with Senior A.I. Programmer

                            YOU as the user have the option to challenge the call or not, it just happens after the computer decides you can challenge, there seems to be alot of misleading info in some of these threads, im not sure why.
                            Last edited by Go Yankees; 03-04-2015, 02:46 PM.

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                            • thaSLAB
                              [Player 1]
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 4495

                              #119
                              Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Live Gameplay with Senior A.I. Programmer

                              Originally posted by MrOldboy
                              All I have left to see is what Wrigley looks like in the game this year. They showed off Busch last stream so why not Wrigley since that is probably the most drastic change from last year.
                              I'm afraid there's some bad news in regards to Wrigley...

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                              • kehlis
                                Moderator
                                • Jul 2008
                                • 27738

                                #120
                                Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Live Gameplay with Senior A.I. Programmer

                                Originally posted by Blzer
                                I think the automation comes in the form of whether or not the game allows you to challenge, though. It won't automatically challenge for you if you don't want to lose your challenge, of course. As I see it, we simply can't will our manager out there on our own.



                                Anyone remember 2K6 when you could argue calls? That was kind of fun. You got to try and argue by tapping A/X or something and keep it within a certain meter so your team could get a morale boost and your manager wouldn't be ejected. I forget if the game prompted when we wanted to argue as well. I believe it did.

                                Sweet thanks. I've been completely misunderstanding it and I've asked several times lol. I was thinking it was 100% cosmetic.

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