MLB 15 The Show Player Ratings - Top Rated Players For Each Team

[HozAndMoose]

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You want to compare Hamilton with Henderson, great, here is a link to Henderson's record http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...enderi01.shtml

Alright now, why was Stanton more successful than Hamilton? Stanton is rated 57 for speed, about half of Hamilton's. Now the catchers who threw out Hamilton had a hard time throwing out slowpoke Stanton?

Let's go on, Henderson was caught 42 times but stole 130 bases, and he did it in the majors! Since when do we use minor league stats for players who have had a full season in the majors?

Go ahead and compare Hamilton's first full season with first full season for Henderson. You can then compare other full season's for both.

You want to use minor league stats for all players who have had a full season in the majors, one full season?

So what are you arguing? That Stanton should be faster or Hamilton's steal ability should be lower. They dont play on the same team. They dont face the same catchers every game. Hamilton plays against Molina. I have no clue what catchers are in the NL East,. But they arent as good as Molina. And its not up to the catcher alone. When Hamilton is on base. Pitchers are going to be throwing more FBs compared to win Stanton is on.

And no normally we dont use stats from the minors. But stolen bases isnt a normal argument. A player can hit .300 in the minors because the talent level of pitchers is lower. But just because you are a catcher in the minors doesnt mean its because you cant throw out a runner.

Eric Hosmer stole 16 bases in 2012 and was only caught 1 time. No way in hell his steal ability should be higher than Hamilton's.

[Cavicchi]

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So what are you arguing? That Stanton should be faster or Hamilton's steal ability should be lower. They dont play on the same team. They dont face the same catchers every game. Hamilton plays against Molina. I have no clue what catchers are in the NL East,. But they arent as good as Molina. And its not up to the catcher alone. When Hamilton is on base. Pitchers are going to be throwing more FBs compared to win Stanton is on.

Eric Hosmer stole 16 bases in 2012 and was only caught 1 times. No way in hell his steal ability should be higher than Hamilton's.

Have I said Stanton's steal ability should be higher than Hamilton's? No.

You didn't answer my question. You want to use minor league stats for all players with just one full year in the majors?

[HozAndMoose]

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Have I said Stanton's steal ability should be higher than Hamilton's? No.

You didn't answer my question. You want to use minor league stats for all players with just one full year in the majors?

I edited my last post with that. Not sure why im arguing that anyway. I dont think Hamilton should be 99. But he should at least be 90.

My point in getting into this was you are comparing Hamilton and Stanton for no reason. Just because Hamilton got caught 23 times and Stanton only once doesnt mean Stanton should be faster than 57 or Hamilton lower than 99 steal ability.

And then you brought up SB% and when nomo countered that you completely dismissed SB%.

[countryboy]

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[HozAndMoose]

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Jarrod Dyson should have 99 steal ability though. And whoever does KC for OSFM. Terrance Gore should have 100 somehow.

[Cavicchi]

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I edited my last post with that. Not sure why im arguing that anyway. I dont think Hamilton should be 99. But he should at least be 90.

My point in getting into this was you are comparing Hamilton and Stanton for no reason. Just because Hamilton got caught 23 times and Stanton only once doesnt mean Stanton should be faster than 57 or Hamilton lower than 99 steal ability.

And then you brought up SB% and when nomo countered that you completely dismissed SB%.

I agree with you!

[Jays20593]

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How is Marcus Stroman at least not a high 70, yet Sanchez is an 81????

[CaseIH]

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I edited my last post with that. Not sure why im arguing that anyway. I dont think Hamilton should be 99. But he should at least be 90.

My point in getting into this was you are comparing Hamilton and Stanton for no reason. Just because Hamilton got caught 23 times and Stanton only once doesnt mean Stanton should be faster than 57 or Hamilton lower than 99 steal ability.

And then you brought up SB% and when nomo countered that you completely dismissed SB%.

I agree Billy Hamilton shouldn't have a 99 in steal ability, 90 is probably right, hopefully he improves that this yr. He should however have a 99 in speed, considering he is the fastest guy in baseball. Probably should be 3 guys with 99 speed Dyson, and Gore on KC, but they should both have higher stealing ability than Billy has at the moment. There is a kid in the White Sox organization that I cant remember his name at the moment is very fast, as is Dee Gordon.

[PattyIce]

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littering and?
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and smoking the reefer!!

[Cavicchi]

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McCutchen has a 99 for contact versus LHP. The splits for 2012-2014 are great .357 but for 2014 not so great .280 Thus, I am not so sure he deserves a 99 for LHP, especially if that last year, 2014, has 50% weight.

[jcmreds]

7 of Hamilton's 23 CS were do to pickoff moves. Once he learns to get a better read on pitchers, and starts picking better pitches to steal on he'll improve. There's also the possibility of Votto batting behind him this year which should do nothing but help.

I think most of his high rating is due to his defense which imo is elite and GG caliber.

[mitchmest]

Does anyone know if there is a stream today?

[Bat]

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James Paxton C potential? He is going to be special.

[CaseIH]

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7 of Hamilton's 23 CS were do to pickoff moves. Once he learns to get a better read on pitchers, and starts picking better pitches to steal on he'll improve. There's also the possibility of Votto batting behind him this year which should do nothing but help.

I think most of his high rating is due to his defense which imo is elite and GG caliber.

I look for Billy Hamilton to make improvement everywhere in his game this yr. He definitely was deserving of a GG last yr in CF, and Im sure he will even improve the more he plays out there, he hasn't been a Out Fielder very long, so it was impressive how good he was out there. He just needs to get use to reading pitchers better and his Stolen base success will rise drastically with how fast he is. He found out its not quite as easy at the Big League level even with his speed.

[TattooedEvil]

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James Paxton C potential? He is going to be special.

I'm sure his injury was the reason behind that but I bet that C is a 79 potential....one solid season and it prob jumps to mid 80s....he's not a 90+ guy tho. sorry. He'll def play like one tho with most of those ballparks in the West being pitchers parks.