MLB 15 The Show Player Ratings - Top Rated Players at Each Position

[MrOldboy]

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I love it. I think it accurately depicts the premium on talent in the MLB and how hard it is to be a perennial MVP candidate. I'm glad King Felix finally got his due.

I still feel that only one pitcher and one hitter should be rated 99, and that being the top. Everyone else's OVR should be scaled to fall within the 1-98 range with only those matching the two 99's ratings being then given a 99 if progression dictates.

Top fWAR Pitchers 2012-14
Clayton Kershaw 19.2 fWAR (21.6 bWAR)
Felix Hernandez 17.9 fWAR (16.7 bWAR)

Top fWAR Hitters 2012-14
Mike Trout 28.4 fWAR (27.5 bWAR)
Andrew McCutchen 21.8 fWAR (21.4 bWAR)

I know WAR does not translate to OVR, but I think the gaps between the #1 and #2 players do justify the notion that only one player of each type deserves a 99.

[TattooedEvil]

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I still feel that only one pitcher and one hitter should be rated 99, and that being the top. Everyone else's OVR should be scaled to fall within the 1-98 range with only those matching the two 99's ratings being then given a 99 if progression dictates.

Top fWAR Pitchers 2012-14
Clayton Kershaw 19.2 fWAR (21.6 bWAR)
Felix Hernandez 17.9 fWAR (16.7 bWAR)

Top fWAR Hitters 2012-14
Mike Trout 28.4 fWAR (27.5 bWAR)
Andrew McCutchen 21.8 fWAR (21.4 bWAR)

I know WAR does not translate to OVR, but I think the gaps between the #1 and #2 players do justify the notion that only one player of each type deserves a 99.

Remember, it's not just a "hitter"....defense is much more involved in a position player....dont wanna sound nit picky but ppl seem to leave out the defense factor when grading....and WAR is absolute trash. I get what you are saying and this has nothing to do with u....I just hate how they try to equate WAR to everything. I can't stand listening to sabermatricians talk and try to make everyone seem like a zombie when there's much more to it then just equations.

[MrOldboy]

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Remember, it's not just a "hitter"....defense is much more involved in a position player....dont wanna sound nit picky but ppl seem to leave out the defense factor when grading....and WAR is absolute trash. I get what you are saying and this has nothing to do with u....I just hate how they try to equate WAR to everything. I can't stand listening to sabermatricians talk and try to make everyone seem like a zombie when there's much more to it then just equations.

The reason people use WAR is that it takes defense into account and doesn't just value a player based on his offensive numbers. I used hitter simply because a position player hits while pitchers don't really hit. You can argue about semantics, but it was clear what I meant.

Look at the list of players in order by fWAR first before making assumptions.

Why did Jose Altuve, the best offensive 2B last year, have a lower fWAR than Ian Kinsler? Or why do Michael Brantley and Alex Gordon have the same fWAR?

[TattooedEvil]

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The reason people use WAR is that it takes defense into account and doesn't just value a player based on his offensive numbers. I used hitter simply because a position player hits while pitchers don't really hit. You can argue about semantics, but it was clear what I meant.

Look at the list of players in order by fWAR first before making assumptions.

Why did Jose Altuve, the best offensive 2B last year, have a lower fWAR than Ian Kinsler? Or why do Michael Brantley and Alex Gordon have the same fWAR?

never made an assumption and said i get what ur saying soooo

[MrOldboy]

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never made an assumption and said i get what ur saying soooo

I don't know what you thought I would assume when you said

"defense is much more involved in a position player....dont wanna sound nit picky but ppl seem to leave out the defense factor when grading....and WAR is absolute trash"

I'm simply trying to explain that WAR does look at a player holistically and not just as a hitter. Saying "I get what your saying" doesn't mean I won't disagree with you post.

[sigurd]

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Did they even put Freddie Freeman in the game this year?

[HozAndMoose]

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Did they even put Freddie Freeman in the game this year?

Of course they did. He is tied for 10th at 84 OVR.

[JayD]

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Could you please change behind the plate of Turner Field? There are 3 MLB the show signs right behind the plate that are an eyesore and also there isn't just a black pit of nothing behind there anymore.

[Ghost Of The Year]

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Did they even put Freddie Freeman in the game this year?

Yes, but after a recent spate of work place harassment incidents, he no longer gives you the hug.

[poiper]

Jay Bruce not in the top 10 right fielders? I'm calling shenanigans.

[HozAndMoose]

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Jay Bruce not in the top 10 right fielders? I'm calling shenanigans.

19th in WAR, 20th in AVG, 19th in OBP, 10th in HR, 12th in RBI.

[Dolenz]

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I am guessing that poiper is a Reds fan.

People almost never argue about player ratings for players on teams other than their favorites.