I just cannot win with the Jacksonville Jaguars in offline CFM

[extremeskins04]

Jags are so hard to win with. I'm on my 6th year now, going on 7th for preseason and my team rating is 91. My entire OL is upgraded and are all 89+ now with my LT and RT both 93 OVR.

My QB is a drafted guy and he's 99 OVR now in his 3rd year. My receivers are 90, 87 and 85 for the top 3 that I have. My RB is a 92.

My defense is STACKED now. Base 4-3 defense. Like the only weakness I have is my LE, my LOLB, and one of my CB's. Telvin Smith my ROLB, is rated 99. Posluszny is rated 85 and leads the league in tackles almost every year.

I have a 99 rated FS, 83 rated SS, one 91 rated CB and a 85 rated CB.

Like I have built this team up from being in the dog house and dead last.

The problem? I STILL CAN'T WIN. I'm either a .500 team or slightly below a .500 team. My players are better than alot of other teams but it always seems like the SAME teams go back to the playoffs year in year out.

Patriots, Packers, Lions, Seahawks, Broncos, Panthers, Steelers, etc. It's always the same teams. This is after 6 years playing Owner Mode. I've been good about rebuilding the team and managing my funds.

Currently after year 6 I have about $95m funds and that's even after making a few moves in Free Agency, signing rookies, and resigning players each year. Like, I've legitimately been making sure I take care of my cap and my funds and build.

This team just doesn't win. I'm currently using a level 9 coach but no other coach wants to come to my team. I'm currently using the West Coast offense scheme and the Base 4-3 defense scheme which matches exactly what my coach is.

My playbook is the Rams playbook on both offense and defense because that's the type of scheme they run, West Coast and Base 4-3.

I cannot get to the playoffs, and I sim all regular season games. It always plays out where the normal playoff teams make it back to the playoffs every year. My roster is legit and good.

Anyone have any ideas what could be the problem? Do I need to wait it out and get better? My team is already pretty amazing.

Do I just need to be patient? 10 years before becoming a legitimate playoff team with the Jags?

[NoleFan]

Re: I just cannot win with the Jacksonville Jaguars in offline CFM

My team is nowhere near as stacked as yours. Not sure why you aren't winning. I've gotta finish up the last game of the 2017 preseason but the best record we've had is 7-9.

[extremeskins04]

Re: I just cannot win with the Jacksonville Jaguars in offline CFM

My team is nowhere near as stack as yours. Not sure why you aren't winning. I've gotta finish up the last game of the 2017 preseason but the best record we've had is 7-9.

Are you playing the Jags? I don't mean picking the Jags and doing a fantasy draft. I mean playing with the original team that is rated 76. They are awful and almost the entire team needs to be upgraded.

Blake Bortles on my team was so bad it was ridiculous. I tried developing him and spending a TON of xp points on him but it didn't matter. He was so bad that he never got above 79 OVR.

I had to draft a new QB.

[rws591]

Re: I just cannot win with the Jacksonville Jaguars in offline CFM

I have a franchise with the Jags, my actual team. I'm in year 7 and Blake's a 99, Linder, Joekel, Colvin, Smith, Marks, and Robinson are all corner stones. My team is generally stacked because the first few years I simmed and ended up with T5 picks, which I traded for more picks.

I've simmed a full season recently and went 15-1, so it's not a Jags specific problem... maybe you have bad sim players?

[extremeskins04]

Re: I just cannot win with the Jacksonville Jaguars in offline CFM

I have a franchise with the Jags, my actual team. I'm in year 7 and Blake's a 99, Linder, Joekel, Colvin, Smith, Marks, and Robinson are all corner stones. My team is generally stacked because the first few years I simmed and ended up with T5 picks, which I traded for more picks.

I've simmed a full season recently and went 15-1, so it's not a Jags specific problem... maybe you have bad sim players?

Hmmm that's insane.

A few more questions: (i realize these are actually alot of questions but I'm frustrated with the Jags and i'm trying to figure out what i'm doing wrong)

1. What coach did you hire? Or playing with the original one?

2. What specialty is your scout?

3. Did you adjust your schemes at all? Like what is your offense type and defense type?

4. What playbooks are you using? The Jags? Or a different team?

5. Did you adjust the schemes for each of the positions to fit the players?

6. Are you playing coach mode or owner mode?

7. What do you do for your Game Prep? Do you pick 1 or 2 players and work on their xp and develop them up? Or do you work on confidence only so you can win games? What's your strategy?

8. When you scout, what do you scout for a player? I was just scouting the Intangible and Physical ratings and if they were like A and B, B and B, or A and C I knew they were good and possible "Superstars".

Thanks for answering my questions. Here I am thinking I am drafting well and getting good players, but they aren't performing as I'd like and Bortles was just getting owned. Joeckel gave up like 18 sacks one year. It was horrible.

[Von Dozier]

Re: I just cannot win with the Jacksonville Jaguars in offline CFM

For the past few years, Madden seems totally screwed up when it comes to simming games. Seems like every time I try and build a team and quick-sim the whole season, 9/10 I end up with losing records.

Don't think it's just a small sample size either. There was a Breaking Madden that did this, trying to win Sanchez a ring, and pretty much every team he user-simmed always came out with horrible records.

http://www.sbnation.com/2014/11/6/7167087/breaking-madden-mark-sanchez

[mattymatt1283]

Re: I just cannot win with the Jacksonville Jaguars in offline CFM

Overall, I have just seen some really weird records from cfm sims.

[extremeskins04]

Re: I just cannot win with the Jacksonville Jaguars in offline CFM

Overall, I have just seen some really weird records from cfm sims.

Well the thing is, if I were to sim 3 back to back seasons with the Pats I'd make the postseason each time without doing a thing.

So something I was doing with the Jags was wrong. I had the players, but maybe my schemes were all messed up and I was using the wrong playbooks. Not sure. Could have been the coach i used to, but the coach I hired was a few levels higher than the starting Jags coach.

I changed each positions scheme to what gave the players the highest OVR, but I guess that was a mistake? I don't know.

After 6 seasons of rebuilding the Jags, I was still a very bad team and could not win games even with a TEAM OVERALL of 91.

Very frustrating.

[rws591]

Re: I just cannot win with the Jacksonville Jaguars in offline CFM

Hmmm that's insane.
1. What coach did you hire? Or playing with the original one?
2. What specialty is your scout?
3. Did you adjust your schemes at all? Like what is your offense type and defense type?
4. What playbooks are you using? The Jags? Or a different team?
5. Did you adjust the schemes for each of the positions to fit the players?
6. Are you playing coach mode or owner mode?
7. What do you do for your Game Prep? Do you pick 1 or 2 players and work on their xp and develop them up? Or do you work on confidence only so you can win games? What's your strategy?
8. When you scout, what do you scout for a player? I was just scouting the Intangible and Physical ratings and if they were like A and B, B and B, or A and C I knew they were good and possible "Superstars".
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1) Gus Bradley
2) Same scout.. DBs?
3) Offensive type is vertical, defense attacking 43
4) Pats Offense, Jags D (though I may be changing this)
5)Strong arm, one cut, redzone target, receiving, pass OL, balanced on D.
6) Owner
7) I only work on XP, early on focused on guys like Bortles and Joeckel, now am focusing on developmental players to take over for guys leaving in a year or two.
8) I scout the int/phy and specific traits per player ie all OL have to have and A strength before moving forward, similarly CBs at least B in both coverages and one A.

I will say this, I probably went 1-15, 4-12, 6-10, before taking over myself (ie not simming) and going 12-4, building a new stadium, and taking the league by storm. That one season gave my players the confidence to win on sim.

[extremeskins04]

Re: I just cannot win with the Jacksonville Jaguars in offline CFM

1) Gus Bradley
2) Same scout.. DBs?
3) Offensive type is vertical, defense attacking 43
4) Pats Offense, Jags D (though I may be changing this)
5)Strong arm, one cut, redzone target, receiving, pass OL, balanced on D.
6) Owner
7) I only work on XP, early on focused on guys like Bortles and Joeckel, now am focusing on developmental players to take over for guys leaving in a year or two.
8) I scout the int/phy and specific traits per player ie all OL have to have and A strength before moving forward, similarly CBs at least B in both coverages and one A.

I will say this, I probably went 1-15, 4-12, 6-10, before taking over myself (ie not simming) and going 12-4, building a new stadium, and taking the league by storm. That one season gave my players the confidence to win on sim.

Incredible. I may start over and just redo it. Granted I was doing well and I had built up almost $100mil in funds after 6 years even after dabbling in FA and re-signing players so my management of the cap and the funds was great.

I actually thought about relocating to a new city once I had $100m in funds just so I had some cushion because you end up paying a weekly "lease" on the new stadium built so you need to have some good reserve going to compensate.

Thanks for the reply though. Not really sure what I was doing wrong. It could have been that the confidence was always under 50 so players just played poorly across the board and the more losses I had, the worse their confidence got and it just had a domino effect.

And to be quite honest, I'm not even sure if the offseason "resets" their confidence level. I think it stays low until they start winning games.

Ugh, I'll try again. Thanks for your help.

[Theschill38]

Re: I just cannot win with the Jacksonville Jaguars in offline CFM

I think that's the key right there. Players confidence affects how they play a lot, and the only way to building that up is winning.

[rws591]

Re: I just cannot win with the Jacksonville Jaguars in offline CFM

And to be quite honest, I'm not even sure if the offseason "resets" their confidence level. I think it stays low until they start winning games.

It doesn't so my boys are riding high after a SB victory, but don't take my Jags out of Duval!

[NoleFan]

I just cannot win with the Jacksonville Jaguars in offline CFM

Are you playing the Jags? I don't mean picking the Jags and doing a fantasy draft. I mean playing with the original team that is rated 76. They are awful and almost the entire team needs to be upgraded.



Blake Bortles on my team was so bad it was ridiculous. I tried developing him and spending a TON of xp points on him but it didn't matter. He was so bad that he never got above 79 OVR.



I had to draft a new QB.

Yep playing with the final roster update Jags. I don't do fantasy drafts. Never liked to play the game that way.

[xa0wnerx]

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I did a cfm with the jags and have made the playoffs and won the division every year for the past 6 years. First year we went 2-14 and bortles went down 3 overalls, think through free agency ( where i had like 80m) I splashed on tons of players, then drafted a couple starters. After that I would make changes as I got along.

[Elway7]

Re: I just cannot win with the Jacksonville Jaguars in offline CFM

Good topic! My first go at Madden as owner when the last update came out, I simmed the first season, went 4-12, let the cpu draft and sign free agents. Simmed season 2 (to relocate), went 11-5, lost in the super bowl to the falcons. Bortles went up to a 91 ovr. Definitely different from all the other experiences here.