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  • Ownal0t
    MVP
    • Jul 2014
    • 1244

    #1

    this game is about to find it self on a shelf for a while.

    honeymoon effect has worn off. i been playing alot the past 2 days. and WOW. its like this game has took a turn for the worst.

    - I CANT HIT ANY 3s. NO MATTER WHO IS DOING IT. and if any do go it for some odd reason it has to be contested.i cant get OPEN 3s to fall for the life of me. meanwhile the CPU is just taking some shots that has me going REALLY? westbrook/Rose are better 3 point shooters for the CPU than me with melo in LUT

    - the update has murdered rebounding. i used to come out with like 20 boards. now i be lucky to get 15. it doesnt help that they appeared to adda new animation that makes it where your players are no where near the ball to reaction on it. while theCPU is there all the time. it doesnt help that some boards just feel rigged for the CPU. this is why i stopped playing the other game.

    - this game wants me to play HULK SMASH now with how piss poor the shooting is. and i cant even tho that right since on superstar at least, most layups are now altered and blocked. while the CPU (while it seems d has been improved slightly) still makes some circus non believable BS

    to avoid getting stressed out , ima just put the game down for a while. it doesnt help that the other game just got a update that seems to improve gameplay alot. and we have SLIDERS to fix what we want.

    before i get attacked. i still feel live is the better BBALL sim. but if this keeps up this series is about to be a joke like the other game.

    FIX THE GAME. i'll still hang around here but ima need a break from this game. idk what EA is doing. im tempted to take a flight to orlando to show them what a jumpshot is
  • Tonyattia
    Pro
    • Sep 2014
    • 644

    #2
    Re: this game is about to find it self on a shelf for a while.

    No update has been released in the last couple of days, so it's not like gameplay has been changed. Shooting is inconsistent, sometimes you just have to keep playing if your in a slump.


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    • Ownal0t
      MVP
      • Jul 2014
      • 1244

      #3
      Re: this game is about to find it self on a shelf for a while.

      Before this last one I was making my3s With the occasionally miss, but now I can't make anything like this is getting frustrating. "Keep playing" is going to result in a ps4 being thrown.

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      • Tonyattia
        Pro
        • Sep 2014
        • 644

        #4
        Re: this game is about to find it self on a shelf for a while.

        The patch nor rosters or data updates affected gameplay. I do however have some suggestions to get open looks.

        1. Play with teams who have stretch 4s, an go to coach options> offense> 4 out 1 in. This will spread the floor allowing for open threes if someone helps on penetration.

        Another is to run pick and rolls often, with the big man who is "in" in the 4 out 1 in formation. If the screener man hedges, throw to the screener or skip pass it to shooter who's defender is helping on the roll to the rim. It's usually the guy in the corner who is open.

        Lastly, for Lut, the best playbooks Imo are the trail blazers and rockets. My favorite play for the rockets is "dribble pistol". It's a spread pick and roll from the wing with the sg and center. Someone will most likely be open.
        For the blazers it's 51 pop, another spread pick and roll this time with the pg and center.

        One more thing, if going against a zone, look for any play that has horns in it, they are great zone busters.

        Hope this helps get you more open shots and ease your shooting woes


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        • rockchisler
          All Star
          • Oct 2002
          • 8290

          #5
          Re: this game is about to find it self on a shelf for a while.

          The defense is too good causing missed shots.
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          • donkey33
            MVP
            • Aug 2002
            • 1268

            #6
            Re: this game is about to find it self on a shelf for a while.

            You're too generous. I shelved this ages ago and won't be bringing it back.

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            • ThaLiveKing
              Banned
              • Sep 2009
              • 690

              #7
              Re: this game is about to find it self on a shelf for a while.

              I only have problem shooting threes, that's it. I pretty much hit every thing else, but it does suck that sometimes I shoot 1-9 from downtown, or 6-17, I just go with the flow of the game, I don't expect to shoot a high percentage from three. It's not like it hard to beat the CPU any ways lol

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              • Ownal0t
                MVP
                • Jul 2014
                • 1244

                #8
                Re: this game is about to find it self on a shelf for a while.

                Originally posted by Tonyattia
                The patch nor rosters or data updates affected gameplay. I do however have some suggestions to get open looks.

                1. Play with teams who have stretch 4s, an go to coach options> offense> 4 out 1 in. This will spread the floor allowing for open threes if someone helps on penetration.

                Another is to run pick and rolls often, with the big man who is "in" in the 4 out 1 in formation. If the screener man hedges, throw to the screener or skip pass it to shooter who's defender is helping on the roll to the rim. It's usually the guy in the corner who is open.

                Lastly, for Lut, the best playbooks Imo are the trail blazers and rockets. My favorite play for the rockets is "dribble pistol". It's a spread pick and roll from the wing with the sg and center. Someone will most likely be open.
                For the blazers it's 51 pop, another spread pick and roll this time with the pg and center.

                One more thing, if going against a zone, look for any play that has horns in it, they are great zone busters.

                Hope this helps get you more open shots and ease your shooting woes



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                i try looking into some of these. i know about the pick and roll thing, but i hate the idea that i will have to do PnRs all game to get open.

                Originally posted by rockchisler
                The defense is too good causing missed shots.

                Good Defense on OPEN looks?


                Originally posted by ThaLiveKing
                I only have problem shooting threes, that's it. I pretty much hit every thing else, but it does suck that sometimes I shoot 1-9 from downtown, or 6-17, I just go with the flow of the game, I don't expect to shoot a high percentage from three. It's not like it hard to beat the CPU any ways lol

                i win most of my games too, but its extremely annoying that i cant run FULL offense due to this game in ability to try to fix the shooting

                Originally posted by donkey33
                You're too generous. I shelved this ages ago and won't be bringing it back.
                i actually gave it 1 final go before i called it good . its like someone heard my complaints and today they made the 3's fall again. same looks i been missing started going in. w/e i take it, but im still not happy

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                • Tonyattia
                  Pro
                  • Sep 2014
                  • 644

                  #9
                  Re: this game is about to find it self on a shelf for a while.

                  To get past people 1v1, use the sig dribbles


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                  • El_Poopador
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 2624

                    #10
                    Re: this game is about to find it self on a shelf for a while.

                    Originally posted by Tonyattia
                    To get past people 1v1, use the sig dribbles


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                    You don't even have to do that. You just have to mix up how you attack. I rarely use the signature dribbles, but still am able to create openings.

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                    • Calvenn
                      Pro
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 698

                      #11
                      Re: this game is about to find it self on a shelf for a while.

                      Another factor that's often not mentioned is the camera angle being used and this may be an opportunity to try a new one. I can tell you right now that I'm able to see spacing better with Baseline Low Camera versus Action Camera for example. As a result, my fg% is typically higher vs the other angle.

                      The other factor to consider is the framerate or speed at which the game is moving. I have made this observation for quite some time now. When the game slows down you, along with the CPU, will convert less makeable shots, particularly mid range and three point shots! I have not been able to narrow down a single source or root cause for this degradation in performance but it should be forwarded to the developers that this can and does impact the game negatively! They should find a way to maintain consistent, playable framerates for Live16.
                      Last edited by Calvenn; 03-18-2015, 10:46 AM.

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                      • swac07
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 1843

                        #12
                        Re: this game is about to find it self on a shelf for a while.

                        That patch made this probably the most frustrating sports game I've ever played.. I just quit trying to force this game to seem like its decent.. I'll see what live 16 is talking about because all these "stipulations" just to attempt to play a decent game of basketball is some foolishness to me ..yeah I gave up on this one ..

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                        Last edited by swac07; 03-20-2015, 11:40 PM.
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                        • mp3
                          Rookie
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 164

                          #13
                          Re: this game is about to find it self on a shelf for a while.

                          Gameplay aside which has changed so many times in recent weeks, it puts me off playing the game now but also the slow and incomplete roster updates added with the fact if you want to start a new dynasty you have to use an older version of there "current" roster then you have the injury bug which means there is a chance that a lot of good quality players on other teams won't be playing at all your first season.

                          How EA in today's age with the power to update these things why they haven't addressed this by now I will never know.

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                          • Tonyattia
                            Pro
                            • Sep 2014
                            • 644

                            #14
                            Re: this game is about to find it self on a shelf for a while.

                            Idk I guess it's just my play style but I score pretty easily and I don't drive that much


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                            • Ownal0t
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2014
                              • 1244

                              #15
                              Re: this game is about to find it self on a shelf for a while.

                              ok for a second can we stop focusing on the first bullet point and start looking at some of the others? like the rebounding one? im getting absolutely DESTROYED on boards following the update. with GOOD REBOUNDERS on the court. why are the CPU players getting boardsover everyone 3 times in 1 play. its so funny to see the offensive rebound count be like 3 to 10.

                              come on bruh.

                              as for the shooting , i tried to do something new, change my tempo. i played 1 game on slow and 2 games on fast. same difficulty. on fast my 3s were going in like crazy. i wasnt scared to shoot open 3s anymore. ima keep it on this setting and see if thats meant to be or just a placebo

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