OSFM Contract Edits

[RidinDwnKingsley]

Please post any contract edits in here for SCEA created players as they will not carry over during the import.


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[WaitTilNextYear]

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Please post any contract edits in here for SCEA created players as they will not carry over during the import.


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Not necessary. Please don't duplicate the work I already did! These contracts are all already in the same spreadsheet that you got the ratings from. Just scroll over to the right and double check as desired.

Some of the pre-arb players do not have publically available amounts hence "pre-arb 1" "pre-arb 2" and "pre-arb 3" so we will have to decide what that value means. My suggestion is to use 515k for 1st year arb-eligible, 530k for 2nd year arb-eligible, and 550k for 3rd year arb-eligible. Looking for feedback on this...

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Good deal.

I think those values are fair. I could be wrong, but in past games were they all at 500k?

Could be.

In real life, if you glance at pre-arb players who do actually have salary info available, there is really a range. Some teams (ahem, the Rockies) are stingy/cheap and keep their guys nearer to 500k and other teams have performance incentives for doing well. For example, Adam Eaton on the White Sox is balling pretty hard for a pre-arb player.

To state the obvious, normally guys get a little more dough based on years of service. Mike Trout went from 510k in year 1 to a cool mil in year 2 and everyone thought it was way too cheap of LAA, but in fact pre-arb salaries that high are relatively unheard of unless they are part of a long-term deal buying out pre-arb/arb/FA years.

[RidinDwnKingsley]

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Not necessary. Please don't duplicate the work I already did! These contracts are all already in the same spreadsheet that you got the ratings from. Just scroll over to the right and double check as desired.

Some of the pre-arb players do not have publically available amounts hence "pre-arb 1" "pre-arb 2" and "pre-arb 3" so we will have to decide what that value means. My suggestion is to use 515k for 1st year arb-eligible, 530k for 2nd year arb-eligible, and 550k for 3rd year arb-eligible. Looking for feedback on this...

Sorry man not trying to duplicate you work lol... I just missed it, I have a real life too lol


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[flamarlin2121]

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The highest amount you can do is $300 million, so how are you going to handle Giancarlo's contract? Just do 10-years, $300 million?

Also, for the Marlins- Christian Yelich, seven-years, $49.5 million.

[Herky]

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Since Phil Coke made the Cubs he is receiving 2.25 million for 1 year.

[Hitwise]

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Not necessary. Please don't duplicate the work I already did! These contracts are all already in the same spreadsheet that you got the ratings from. Just scroll over to the right and double check as desired.

Some of the pre-arb players do not have publically available amounts hence "pre-arb 1" "pre-arb 2" and "pre-arb 3" so we will have to decide what that value means. My suggestion is to use 515k for 1st year arb-eligible, 530k for 2nd year arb-eligible, and 550k for 3rd year arb-eligible. Looking for feedback on this...

Is this spreadsheet available to the public? I would love to use it for my own franchise.


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[Bravescountry123]

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What the guy above said

[mhagf4]

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Quick note and question:

Yordano Ventura is about to sign an extension with KC, 5 years, plus options, north of 20M (details to come).

That brings up a question: how are we handling options? For KC, I had to do hochevar and medlen, who each have a "mutual" option. For mutual options, I'd just ignore them, as they never get picked up. But what are we doing with club or player options?

[Ghost Of The Year]

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The highest amount you can do is $300 million, so how are you going to handle Giancarlo's contract? Just do 10-years, $300 million?

10 years $250 million.
13 year contract for $325 million works out to $25 million a year.
So since 10 years is all you can do, 10 X $25 million = $250 million.
If you give him $300 million, you are overpaying him, $32.5 million a year = overpaying $7.5 million ayear.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Quick note and question:

Yordano Ventura is about to sign an extension with KC, 5 years, plus options, north of 20M (details to come).

That brings up a question: how are we handling options? For KC, I had to do hochevar and medlen, who each have a "mutual" option. For mutual options, I'd just ignore them, as they never get picked up. But what are we doing with club or player options?

We decided to omit all option years. All the contract info in the spreadsheet excludes vesting/player/team options due to the impossibility in predicting if they will be exercised. Certainly, we could go through and decide what is likely and what isn't for vesting options, but it's little more than playing with a magic 8 ball. Injuries happen, performances change, so we thought it would be best for the USER to decide whether to sign a guy for that extra year or not.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Is this spreadsheet available to the public? I would love to use it for my own franchise.


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What the guy above said

This will get you to the post you need:

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...execution.html

The spreadsheet is in a link in Post 1.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Since Phil Coke made the Cubs he is receiving 2.25 million for 1 year.

I added this as well as the Lagares and Ventura extensions. It also looks like some more pre-arb salaries are starting to trickle in to Cot's contracts, so I'll do one more update of the contracts on the spreadsheet before opening day as the rosters are finalized. This type of info, like for Phil Coke, where guys are getting guarantees for making the team is important to bring up and can be easily missed. Please post info like this in here.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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With the shiny new tool of being able to edit contracts, I decided to check it out. I took a SCEA roster and edited contracts so that all players making 1 million per season or more had accurate contracts. Then I simmed to 2020 to see what would happen. I have team payroll (in millions) and team record info for each year below. Records marked with * means that team went to the WS that year. The Nats 5-peated as WS champs (lol) and are marked with a * each year.

AL	2015	2015	2016	2016	2017	2017	2018	2018	2019	2019	2020
BAL	157.5	88-74	141.75	76-86	127.57	74-88	114.82	82-80	113.13	69-93	101.82
BOS	225	94-68*	202.9	89-73	183.23	89-73	179.73	93-69	179.27	81-81	170.28
NYY	237.5	79-83	213.75	82-80	192.58	69-93	173.32	67-95	160.1	75-87	169.17
TB	113.5	79-83	103.08	82-80	104.17	88-74	113.05	91-71	117.03	91-71	121.16
TOR	160	76-86	144	75-87	129.6	83-79	131.61	81-81	127.7	93-69	146.42
											
CWS	166.5	82-81	149.85	83-79*	143.71	76-86	129.75	67-95	116.78	67-95	111
CLE	136	78-84	122.4	75-87	110.16	85-77	111.21	72-90	100.09	84-78	106.96
DET	204.5	83-80	188.46	87-75	195.68	86-76	201.04	83-79	190.2	71-91	177.7
KC	147.5	83-79	132.75	80-82	119.47	84-78	116.26	77-85	105.65	78-84	105.31
MIN	146.5	72-90	131.85	67-95	118.67	77-85	106.8	89-73	116.14	89-73	118.69
											
LAA	205	82-80	184.5	85-77	166.05	91-71*	172.63	99-63*	180.5	96-66	175.39
OAK	121	78-84	108.9	83-79	107.25	73-89	98.02	80-82	100.31	71-91	93.73
SEA	159	80-82	143.1	78-84	134.85	87-75	144.19	78-84	135.22	84-78	141.56
TEX	190	78-84	171	80-82	153.9	74-88	138.51	69-93	124.66	68-94	119.88
HOU	103.5	75-87	98.23	80-82	103.16	73-89	99.46	76-86	99.42	89-73*	114.33

NL	2015	2015	2016	2016	2017	2017	2018	2018	2019	2019	2020
ATL	142.5	83-79	128.75	84-78	115.43	76-86	104.11	82-80	104.52	86-76	114.73
MIA	141.5	80-82	127.35	80-82	115.44	77-85	1101.9	82-80	111.5	80-82	112.4
WAS	201	102-60*	203.86	98-64*	205.99	95-67*	207.3	95-67*	203.94	85-77*	195.75
NYM	140	75-87	126	79-83	117.23	86-76	125.14	69-93	112.62	77-85	112.61
PHI	167.5	68-94	150.75	71-91	135.67	62-100	122.11	72-90	114.99	80-82	123.66
											
CHC	154	92-70	141.48	91-71	144.18	87-75	149.24	86-76	140.81	85-77	139.74
CIN	164	77-85	147.6	75-87	132.84	83-80	138.47	84-79	138.78	82-80	139.92
MIL	137	85-77	132.3	87-76	134.89	82-80	133.11	79-83	126.83	68-94	115.6
PIT	127	94-68	125.08	72-90	112.58	77-85	106.33	77-85	102.17	82-80	108.41
STL	164.5	91-71	158.2	79-83	146.04	80-82	145.6	90-72	157.58	91-71	162
											
ARI	113.5	66-96	102.15	69-93	93.77	69-93	92.59	85-78	106.48	67-95	95.83
COL	134	70-92	120.6	74-88	108.91	84-79	117.57	75-87	108.89	78-84	111.48
LAD	268	96-66	241.2	94-68	225.07	103-59	230.07	92-70	212.52	100-62	219.68
SD	145	75-87	130.5	88-75	126.27	79-83	117.56	81-81	114.44	82-80	117.02
SF	214	75-87	192.6	88-74	173.34	77-85	156.01	78-84	144.22	81-81	146.5

VERDICT: The payrolls seem to rubberband downward from 2015-2020. It seems they are not supposed to go as high as this test made them start out. This isn't incredibly problematic, but I did notice teams simply not having enough cash to sign important guys. After 2015, it wasn't a big deal with Mike Napoli going unsigned. But then guys like Carlos Gomez and Jered Weaver (2017), Bumgarner/Darvish/Sale/Brantley/Encarnacion/Cain (2018), Goldschmidt/Machado/Grienke (2019), and Starlin Castro (2020) all went unsigned in the offseason and were forced to retire early. In one case, the Indians did not have enough cash to sign a 3B coach, so I got an annoying pop up message every single day of the offseason reminding me that the contract offer couldn't go through. That only happened in that one instance though.

So, basically there are 3 approaches...

1. Do nothing

2. Edit the contract years for accuracy, but leave the dollars alone (most contracts are already correct for years).

3. Edit the contracts to be fully accurate for years and dollars, but use 30-team control and make sure that no blue chip players are languishing in free agency at the end of a full season. This way you can have your contracts and prevent great players from retiring early. It takes extra work to make this solution work, but it will work for people like me who spend too much time on upkeep/realism of a franchise.

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Wouldn't turning budgets off in Franchise mode fix this problem?