NBA 2K15 Roster Update Brings Global Rating Changes to 3-Point & Mid-Range Shooting

[stillfeelme]

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I cannot speak for HoF/Sim. However this was not an issue on SS/Sim and under. Furthermore, you're playing on HoF/Sim. You shouldn't be able to get green releases as other lower difficulties do, nor should that call for a major overhaul in all modes and all difficulties in shooting. HoF is HoF for a reason and that's not an excuse for changing the whole system of shooting, affecting more people in a bad way rather than a good way.

No the game had a large list of shooters that were glitched from 3pt land on HOF and some glitched from mid range and 3pt land on any standing shot attempts on SS. There were 100's of players that were glitched.

What game settings you play on what speed you play on? There was a problem where the game speed was tied to whether you could get a perfect release. So if you played at a certain game speed certain players could achieve "green release" but if you played at a different game speed it was impossible. The default game speed had 100's of players that couldn't achieve a perfect release that restricted the gameplay. They didn't intend to make the game that way so they fixed it.

[stillfeelme]

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The patch didn't just effect green releases. It also effected mid range shots going in at a higher percentage. Keep that in mind

I know exactly what they changed I actually said I didn't even agree with the method they chose to give an open bonus. I was actually more interested in what it means from a game play standpoint playing against the CPU or how the CPU plays you.

[Vtownwaves]

Nikola Mirotic just won rookie of the month, and led the league in scoring during the 4th qtr in march. How do we reward him? Drop his ratings and continue to refuse assigning him badges... #FireNBA2KRosterEditor

[stillfeelme]

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There was nothing wrong with any of the releases. For patch 3 I played about 7-8 seasons with a Knicks franchise. Every one of my players could get a perfect release, they just were not common. You could see that ratings had an effect on green releases, which was a good thing. For instance, I was able to get more 3 point green releases shooting with Kyle Korver. I was also able to get more green releases from mid-range shooting with LeBron. However, it was more rare say with a 70 overall who was just above average at those ratings.

Patch 4 didn't fix green releases, there was nothing to fix. Instead 2K tweaked it so it became common to see any player make a green release and easier for that matter. For instance, a player rated 40 in mid range can get just as many green releases as the best player in the game at mid-range.

This is why a patch is needed to revert back to a similar mechanic patch 3 had. Rating changes such as this one will not affect whether a player gets a green release or not.

Very rarely did I see people complain here about patch 3 shooting. So why was the whole mechanic changed? Now most people have a problem with the shooting.

I think you don't realize the whole problem. You were getting green releases with Korver with patch 3? Well you had to be operating in your own MyLeague with custom settings for game speed. Kyle Korver shot was glitched using the default speed of 50 as were 100's of players. This game speed of 50 is the default speed of online leagues, online ranked and the speed the game comes with. When you changed the game speed certain players became glitch free on patch 3 but it also made other players not achieve "green" release on that same game speed. The issue was a little more complex and 2K never gave the full reason. The issue I see what you are saying is:

In my Myleague I saw no glitch playersYou were operating in your own sandbox without a worry but everyone else playing the game at the default game speed had 100's of releases glitched. I am sure if you used multiple teams out of the box or played anything online you would have realized which players shots were glitched.

For example in the first week of release I knew Melo was glitched, Danny Green Diaw others because I shot hundreds of shots right out of the box on HOF and SS in practice and played tons of games without getting a green release. The glitch wasn't every where but it would be either mid range and beyond or just 3pt's from standing shots

[Bunselpower32]

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Some things I noticed from playing. (For reference, I use whatever the top Superstar sliders are in the sliders section and I didn't change anything pre to post patch and I'm playing offline on PC)

-Shooting is way easier. And I don't mean it in a bad way. Sometimes, I felt like you had a very specific point to release the ball or you just didn't make it at all, even wide open. I'll just scale the sliders back to accomodate this, pretty simple fix there, and something I was doing anyway.

-The CPU doesn't seem to be button jumping on passes anymore. This was an issue for me because I love the Pick and Roll, and even though I may have a clear pass, there would be an AI player that would react with a full speed lunge before my player even started the passing motion.

-Defense. On ball defense was a problem, as well as shot contesting and blocks. Now, I can play good defense and actually be rewarded for it instead of a glitchy clip or a ridiculous close shot that no one could ever make. I played with Draymond before and after, and he was so much more fun after because of his defensive relevance. I also felt that on layups, a shot contest meant absolutely nothing. Which was super frustrating combined with the CPU's tendency to cheese to the basket. Now, the big guys are actually helping on help D, and it just feels awesome.

-Blocks. Before, blocks were coming at very weird points, and I felt as though they were unachievable on regular shots in the paint, rendering paint protectors useless. Wow, is that better. Shots and animations are being interrupted by blocks and the blocks are coming when they should, when a small guy tosses one up over Valanciunas. Get it out of here.

-CPU cheese. They don't dance around waiting for an animation catch to drive by, they run plays, get it to the big men, and play offense. They aren't over jumping passes and grabbing crazy offensive rebounds to maintain a lead.

-Rubberbanding. Dare I say this? I think it's actually not there anymore, or at least toned down. I built a big lead, and I was able to keep it. No stupid stretches of crap happening. For the first time, I didn't feel like it was scripted.

The people saying SS was fine, maybe it was on PS4/Xbox (although I doubt it), but it was broken on PC. Complete and utter garbage from game to game. This patch was a godsend.

If 2k put out this exact version of the game next year, I would buy it. The experience is far and away better than it has ever been, and my only complaint is that it took this long. Baseball just came out, but I'm going to be spending a lot more time with basketball, because it just got really good.

[epic jigl]

Re: NBA 2K15 Roster Update Brings Global Rating Changes to 3-Point & Mid-Range Shooti

Can someone explain to me why they didn't just go back to the pre patch version instead of decreasing everyones stats? Now won't MyCareer, MyGM, and MyLeague be messed up? Also the grades for midrange and 3pt should probably be adjusted then. I just don't quite understand

[CaseIH]

Re: NBA 2K15 Roster Update Brings Global Rating Changes to 3-Point & Mid-Range Shooti

Seems they might have tweaked the roster somehow too along with lowering shooting a tad. It seems there isn't as much sliding, and its easier to stay in front of your guy on D, and this was with speed at default 50 as well as quickness, so that's a plus.

[bo_jax2000]

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Does this apply to Classic/Euroleague teams?

[CD90]

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Does this also effect auto-created draft classes or are prospects rated too high now?

[Sundown]

NBA 2K15 Roster Update Brings Global Rating Changes to 3-Point & Mid-Range Sh...

Can someone explain to me why they didn't just go back to the pre patch version instead of decreasing everyones stats? Now won't MyCareer, MyGM, and MyLeague be messed up? Also the grades for midrange and 3pt should probably be adjusted then. I just don't quite understand

Because it's a stop gap workaround for the patch, and to go back to how it used to be would require a code change delivered as another patch.

It would take awhile for another patch to be released and approved, and there's the possibility of not getting another patch at all, so this is the hot fix so at least the game is playable on some of the modes. That 2K is aware of the issue and addressed it somewhat quickly is welcome. However several other modes may remain broken or out of sync with how the other modes play (generated players, games with existing rosters, and my team for example).

This is an uncharacteristically bad and poorly tested change that breaks the game at a fundamental level very late in the product and patch cycle. It's rare, but it happens.

A lot of why it happened is because the team continued to work on improving the shot mechanics. Whether that effort will go down as a hallmark of 2K's diligence and support or a stain against the final quality of this year's product will depend on whether one more patch addresses the problem correctly at its root.

[ataman5]

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On positive end they still care and tweak stuff they can in this years cycle; but on negative end they always treat players who bought the game at full price as beta testers, clearly we're not and shouldn't be.

So, all in all i think the latest patch has done many good things right along with poorly implemented shooting. All they should do seem to have to gotten the % success balance between patch 3 and patch 4 and we'll all be good to go for smooth life-like on court experience. For now hot fixes and such can only cause more damage on sides that they clearly can't test enough.

[FR176]

After an hour or so of testing out open jump shot during practice. I found it's best to avoid shooting jump shot with players under 50 in their attributes. Those players shouldn't be taking jump shot unless the clock is running out.

I also, played a couple of quick games and I found myself enjoying the new roster update. It seem more balanced on offense and defense.

[ksuttonjr76]

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-The CPU doesn't seem to be button jumping on passes anymore. This was an issue for me because I love the Pick and Roll, and even though I may have a clear pass, there would be an AI player that would react with a full speed lunge before my player even started the passing motion.

-Defense. On ball defense was a problem, as well as shot contesting and blocks. Now, I can play good defense and actually be rewarded for it instead of a glitchy clip or a ridiculous close shot that no one could ever make. I played with Draymond before and after, and he was so much more fun after because of his defensive relevance. I also felt that on layups, a shot contest meant absolutely nothing. Which was super frustrating combined with the CPU's tendency to cheese to the basket. Now, the big guys are actually helping on help D, and it just feels awesome.

-Blocks. Before, blocks were coming at very weird points, and I felt as though they were unachievable on regular shots in the paint, rendering paint protectors useless. Wow, is that better. Shots and animations are being interrupted by blocks and the blocks are coming when they should, when a small guy tosses one up over Valanciunas. Get it out of here.

-Rubberbanding. Dare I say this? I think it's actually not there anymore, or at least toned down. I built a big lead, and I was able to keep it. No stupid stretches of crap happening. For the first time, I didn't feel like it was scripted.

I agree 100% with these things. These were some of the things that I noticed too.

I'm loving the fact that there is less of those "eyes in the back of their heads" and button press steals. Before, I used to complain when certain "good" passes got picked off. Now, I can honestly say when it was a bad pass, and I just move back on defense.

Some of the blocks that I'm witnessing have been unbelievable! I think they changed some of block animations, because I've been getting some crazy blocks into the stands. Yes...we don't get control of the ball, but I LOVE it when I swat the ball back to half court then the other team has to make a mad scramble to get a shot off.

That's kinda weird. I don't think there was rubberbanding after a discussion on the subject in a previous thread, but I think they did tone down the AI's ability to adapt so quickly. I had one game where there was 10 lead changes, but the runs were user initiated. I would make a change, and I would go on a run. He would make a change, and he would go on a run. It was a great game. I ended losing at the end, because I made some greedy, ill-advised passes and try to go for the knockout, dagger shot, lol.

[Shadyhere]

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Am I the only that feels that 2k screwed up big time? I want to make sense of this whole thing....

Essentially 2k released a patch that makes shooting forms easier. In return, they lowered the shooting ratings for every player. Okay, if thats the case then what about offline modes like My League? Is it basically screwed now? Do I have to manually lower everyones ratings? If I downloaded a draft class, will everyone in the draft class be over rated?

So far, i resumed normal play but, I feel like draining shots has become a bit too easy. I'm shooting lights out from 3pt range and I am not feeling that at all. I don't know what to do at this point.

This was the game I played the most and now I feel like it's been screwed.

[LionsFanNJ]

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I have a question. Has anyone manually edited their rosters from previous days to match the ratings, and does it play the same. I'm asking because if it doesn't i'm starting my myCareer over. If it does then i'm good to go.

I will say this has made elite shooters stand out more than before which i like a whole lot.