Tips vs zig zag cheese?

[DerpTheDerp]

So here on PC, pretty much everyone cheeses, most of the games that i lost were because of zig zag 3pt cheese. Any tips against zig zag?

[messiahcomplex]

Re: Tips vs zig zag cheese?

So here on PC, pretty much everyone cheeses, most of the games that i lost were because of zig zag 3pt cheese. Any tips against zig zag?

you wont be able to stop it all game......but if you go get some games in at the park, it will prepare you for this ****. you can almost predict where guys are going and just move with them. try not to spam turbo though because if you guess wrong and ur 8 steps away, its a bucket for them

[Scramz718]

Re: Tips vs zig zag cheese?

Change your defensive setting to smother/deny/force middle.
Change your setting to auto contest and alternate between on/off ball.
Send manual dbl team sometimes. Use your PF to dbl.


XB1

[rc1882]

Re: Tips vs zig zag cheese?

Sooo. I'm having this dilemma. Like I see obvious zig zag cheese online, but at the same time, the goal as a ball handler is to get your defender leaning one way and exploit the other. So that's where the gray area is for me, like in 1 on 1 at the top of the key sometime I'll do an escape dribble right, cross over hard left, and then use the hop gather back to the right to create space with Steph. Technically I got him going back and forth and forcing him to over commit one way, which is what the zig zaggers do but it doesn't feel cheesy to me. But it might be considered cheese. Idk lol. I mean I get the outrage against the ppl who shoot 85% of their shots from zagging back ans forth from 3. But usually, when I get beat by a zig zag, I over committed to the direction opposite where they shot the ball

[mountaindew77]

Re: Tips vs zig zag cheese?

you wont be able to stop it all game......but if you go get some games in at the park, it will prepare you for this ****. you can almost predict where guys are going and just move with them. try not to spam turbo though because if you guess wrong and ur 8 steps away, its a bucket for them

This. I've played a lot of MyPark and I've learned how to shut down these dudes to the point where I am able to anticipate and start moving back the other direction before they even do. It's kind of hilarious watching them struggle and having no idea what to do against someone who can play defense.

Stay in front of them, don't jump, and don't make too drastic of movements (like messiah said, don't use RT unless needed). Let them dribble back and forth, just worry about staying in front of them. And try to be anticipating a bit, not all reactionary.

[kabamaru]

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What you are all suggesting could work if the opponent PLAYS offense. There are people with 55 3 point shots per game and 75 FG in total with under 5 seconds offense. Since a lot of opponents do not run offenses it is impossible to defend. I have a print screen to show however for some reason I can not upload

[Kodii Rockets]

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This. I've played a lot of MyPark and I've learned how to shut down these dudes to the point where I am able to anticipate and start moving back the other direction before they even do. It's kind of hilarious watching them struggle and having no idea what to do against someone who can play defense.

Stay in front of them, don't jump, and don't make too drastic of movements (like messiah said, don't use RT unless needed). Let them dribble back and forth, just worry about staying in front of them. And try to be anticipating a bit, not all reactionary.

See, my only issue with it is that I want to steal the ball. It's so garbage. I know exactly what they're doing, anticipate every zig, I just want to tap that ball away if I'm in the right position. To me, that's the only problem I have with the zig-zagging at this point.

And as a sidebar, it absolutely AMAZES me how many people use this technique. Like, seriously, is it even fun playing like that? Is winning an RTTP game that serious to you that not only do you have the HOF team, but you need to manipulate the game in such a way to win? Jeez man.

[kabamaru]

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ok, let's face it.No matter how good you play defense, your opponent is very likely to have 35%-40% 3s with zig-zagging. If he shoots 55 in a game and scores 60 pts with 3s and some with offensive rebounds (he will get at least 10 shooting 70 shots) he will most likely win. Most of half of my games are like this now,

[mountaindew77]

Re: Tips vs zig zag cheese?

I hear you guys. I can only speak on MyPark really, I haven't even touched MyTeam or played much of anything else online besides Team Up. I just saw the thread title and thought I'd help if I could.

There needs to be a way to counter-act or a consequence for just dribbling back and forth and not attempting to play in a way that resembles real basketball whatsoever. Unfortunately people will always find the cheesiest ways to "succeed" in sports games and exploit it like none other. And I have never understood how this is fun. How can playing the exact same way on every play or every trip down the court be anything but redundant? Why are you buying a sports video game if you can't even appreciate the sport and what makes it great?

Anyway, let's hope 2k fixes the shot percentages (again).

[messiahcomplex]

Re: Tips vs zig zag cheese?

I hear you guys. I can only speak on MyPark really, I haven't even touched MyTeam or played much of anything else online besides Team Up. I just saw the thread title and thought I'd help if I could.

There needs to be a way to counter-act or a consequence for just dribbling back and forth and not attempting to play in a way that resembles real basketball whatsoever. Unfortunately people will always find the cheesiest ways to "succeed" in sports games and exploit it like none other. And I have never understood how this is fun. How can playing the exact same way on every play or every trip down the court be anything but redundant? Why are you buying a sports video game if you can't even appreciate the sport and what makes it great?

Anyway, let's hope 2k fixes the shot percentages (again).

my Park experience allows me to deal with these dudes. if you cant adjust to the lag, its gonna kill you. but i played one dude that cheesed and it burned me. another dude tried it but i was on top of it and it forced him to play straight. he couldnt...so he lost by 17.

[QNo]

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Here's what I do. I put my best defenders on the guys he likes to zig-zag with. I have as many lockdown defenders as he has zig-zaggers on the floor. Ideally, those guys have bruiser on them. I crash the boards on D and limit transition on O if he likes to fire up quick 3s. I pay extra attention to his shooters when he's running the break.

I bump my defensive assist up to 50, shot contest to always, and do my best to stay in front of him, manually. Don't rely on the computer to contest for you though, there are many situations in which you have to use either the right stick or jump with the Y-button. This requires practice. I give his shooters tight/deny/baseline/ice in the defensive settings and help off his bigs. I switch to my big to manually grab the board when he shoots. I also switch to my big to hedge manually vs PnRs, trusting in my on-ball defender to ice properly.

Since most zig-zaggers like Curry are liabilities on D, I will run my offense through my PG and punish them hard. I usually outrebound them by a fair margin, and the long rebounds you get from his 3s give me plenty of fastbreak opportunities despite having the setting on "crash the boards". If that doesn't work I play in the post, often through my PF as those guys tend to have stretch 4s in their lineups that can't defend the post very well. The settings for this are 'patient offense' and 'feed the post'. I use either the triangle or the swing motion for post offense, and the 4-1 for high PnRs to punish their weak defenders.

Last but not least, you want to use most of your timeouts. Call one anytime one of their shooters has made 2 in a row. You really can't afford to let those guys get hot, that's when it gets out of hand.

Your lineup should also have a few extra lockdown defenders on the squad. Sapphire MJ, LeBron, PG13 (gold is great, sapphire is a monster), Onyx Iggy, Onyx AK47 are all great options that don't cost too much. Defense is much more important post-patch, I will never have less than 3 great defenders on the floor, often 4 or 5.

tl;dr: It's still much tougher to stop zig-zag than it should be, but it is if you are properly prepared. Have many 3-and-D guys and good defensive bigs on your squad.

[kabamaru]

Re: Tips vs zig zag cheese?

I believe we will all agree that someone would expect from 1 big company and market leader as 2k 6-7 months after the release of a game and 4 patches later to have adressed one of the first issues that were spotted with the program (zig-zag). I really don't understand.Is undeniable that zig-zag efficiency is much bigger after latest patch. Don't they have any testers?

[QNo]

Re: Tips vs zig zag cheese?

I believe we will all agree that someone would expect from 1 big company and market leader as 2k 6-7 months after the release of a game and 4 patches later to have adressed one of the first issues that were spotted with the program (zig-zag). I really don't understand.Is undeniable that zig-zag efficiency is much bigger after latest patch. Don't they have any testers?

Well the real problem is that it took them so long to fix the broken releases, now it's likely too late in the development cycle to fix things like this. I'm sure that it's not easy to eradicate zig-zag from the code, as it's something they've been trying to address in previous patches. Zig-zag is only better now because shooting is better.

[kabamaru]

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Agree, but the game overall now is worse than pre-patch as a whole experience. Yes, if yo uplay the game vs an oponnent that tries to play normally the game is mre awarding, but since more and more people realize that zig-zag is the way to go you will see games like the one I posted more and more often

[QNo]

Re: Tips vs zig zag cheese?

Agree, but the game overall now is worse than pre-patch as a whole experience. Yes, if yo uplay the game vs an oponnent that tries to play normally the game is mre awarding, but since more and more people realize that zig-zag is the way to go you will see games like the one I posted more and more often

I disagree, I enjoy the game much more post-patch. I explained why in the other thread and made a long post on how to stop zig-zag in this one.