Impacts of warming up Relief Pitchers in Bullpen

[Scarface-93]

Hey, Ive been playing the Show for the last couple of years but have never really understood the whole warming up stuff and I hope somebody can help me out here:

I figured the more warmed-up a pitcher is, the higher the green bar under every pitch of him. I guess this is the Pitch confidence and a higher bar leads to more accurate pitches, is this correct so far?

Now when warming up a pitcher in the bullpen we can choose between stretch, warm up and ready and waiting.
I always go straight to Warming-Up the pitcher and as soon as he's warmed up completely I change him to ready and waiting.
What exactly is Stretching for? Do I have any benefits of sending him out there to stretch first?

And also, does it have any negative impact if I for example let the pitcher warm up for too long.
Often I send a pitcher to warm up when my starter is struggling but if my starter gets out of a jam i just forget to sit down the bullpen pitcher and he ends up warming up for two innings. In reality this should negatively effect his stamina since he already threw so many pitches during his warm up session. Is something like this in the game?

[T_O_p12]

Re: Impacts of warming up Relief Pitchers in Bullpen

Good question. I wish there was a document somewhere that explained all the ins and outs of certain aspects of this game. Just like the question asked yesterday about playing a player when his energy meter is low.

[hitmachine16]

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I've definitely had a pitcher's stamina go down if I left them warming up for too long. I use the Stretch option if my pitcher is in a jam. That way the reliever only gets about half way warmed up and doesn't lose stamina as quickly if I were to forget about them. I only use the Warm Up option if I know 100% that guy is going into the game. I often send pitchers in after only using the Stretch and Toss option because they still register as warmed up.

[TheBleedingRed21]

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Most of the time, I use stretch and toss to get loose. Like if I'm gonna bring in a pitcher in next inning but let my starter finish the current inning then when I go to bat, I'll change it to warming up so they'll be fully ready in case of a short inning.

Most of the time of you do just warm up while your batting, short innings won't let them get fully warm.

[zephyr13]

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The idea that a pitcher could lose stamina by warming up for too long is just silly to me...

IRL, a pitcher knows when he's warm & he stops throwing (or at least slows down)... He doesn't need his manager to call the bullpen and tell him to change to "ready and waiting". IMO, I think when you warm a pitcher in the pen, they should automatically go to "ready & waiting" when they are completely warmed up.

[jergiants]

Re: Impacts of warming up Relief Pitchers in Bullpen

The idea that a pitcher could lose stamina by warming up for too long is just silly to me...

IRL, a pitcher knows when he's warm & he stops throwing (or at least slows down)... He doesn't need his manager to call the bullpen and tell him to change to "ready and waiting". IMO, I think when you warm a pitcher in the pen, they should automatically go to "ready & waiting" when they are completely warmed up.

I agree. A little too much interaction for the bullpen.

[p00p1]

Re: Impacts of warming up Relief Pitchers in Bullpen

Good question. I wish there was a document somewhere that explained all the ins and outs of certain aspects of this game. Just like the question asked yesterday about playing a player when his energy meter is low.

I've been thinking the same thing. Too bad this page doesn't have squat: http://theshownation.com/manual

There is so much information I've picked up in the last few days that I haven't known in the 2 years I've been playing, like the ratings hit for playing players out of position or in their secondary position. It sucks to have to find out this information by sifting through developer posts.

[Armor and Sword]

Re: Impacts of warming up Relief Pitchers in Bullpen

The idea that a pitcher could lose stamina by warming up for too long is just silly to me...

IRL, a pitcher knows when he's warm & he stops throwing (or at least slows down)... He doesn't need his manager to call the bullpen and tell him to change to "ready and waiting". IMO, I think when you warm a pitcher in the pen, they should automatically go to "ready & waiting" when they are completely warmed up.

I don't disagree with this at all.

However because of the system the way it is currently. It has become a game within a game and I am always checking my bullpen and managing that aspect...lol.

[geisterhome]

Re: Impacts of warming up Relief Pitchers in Bullpen

The idea that a pitcher could lose stamina by warming up for too long is just silly to me...

IRL, a pitcher knows when he's warm & he stops throwing (or at least slows down)... He doesn't need his manager to call the bullpen and tell him to change to "ready and waiting". IMO, I think when you warm a pitcher in the pen, they should automatically go to "ready & waiting" when they are completely warmed up.

Idk, in real life as a manager you also don't have to hit and pitch and field for your players... however for manage mode only I'd agree with you.

[BA2929]

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Idk, in real life as a manager you also don't have to hit and pitch and field for your players... however for manage mode only I'd agree with you.

Yes, and in real life your pitchers don't just keep throwing and throwing for 3 innings in the pen because you didn't tell them to stop.

Right now pen management is way too involved and you have to micromanage your pitchers entirely too much.

If anything, there should be an on-screen prompt (without having to go into the quick menu or the pen screen) letting you know the guy is ready and warm in the pen. Similar to a call to the dugout, or one of the guys holding his hat above his head indicating he's ready to go.

[zephyr13]

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Idk, in real life as a manager you also don't have to hit and pitch and field for your players... however for manage mode only I'd agree with you.

Good point... However, I would consider hitting, pitching, and fielding INTEGRAL parts of a video baseball game, whereas warming a relief pitcher is not. The bullpen management entails too much micromanaging.

[Hustle1man]

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In this game a RP can warm up in 1 batter and a lot of times within 1 mound visit.

if its the 6th or 7th and i know my starter is wearing down ill select stretch and toss for whatever reliever i want ready so he doesnt lose stamina, but if i need a guy ASAP i select the pitcher i want to warm up and then do a mound visit and hes usually warm enough to come in and hits the 'Ready' designation within the 8 warm up pitches.

If im batting and know that i want a new pitcher for the half inning i just select warm up with 1 or 2 outs and theyre ready.

Theres also an option that if you get your guy fully warm but you know youre gonna use him he can be 'scheduled to go in' and the game keeps him warm without any stamina impact.

[Hustle1man]

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Yes, and in real life your pitchers don't just keep throwing and throwing for 3 innings in the pen because you didn't tell them to stop.

Right now pen management is way too involved and you have to micromanage your pitchers entirely too much.

If anything, there should be an on-screen prompt (without having to go into the quick menu or the pen screen) letting you know the guy is ready and warm in the pen. Similar to a call to the dugout, or one of the guys holding his hat above his head indicating he's ready to go.

Theres an option in the settings to not have to warm guys up at all, theyre just ready when subbed in.

[BA2929]

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Theres an option in the settings to not have to warm guys up at all, theyre just ready when subbed in.

I don't mind warming them up. That's part of the game. The fact that they'll continue to warm up literally forever even after they're warm is the issue I have with it.

[Knight165]

Re: Impacts of warming up Relief Pitchers in Bullpen

Theres an option in the settings to not have to warm guys up at all, theyre just ready when subbed in.

Thank you.

OMG....I have to look in the bullpen once every 3 innings!

It's OVERWHELMING!

M.K.
Knight165