Madden NFL 16 Features All-New Controls to Dominate Air Supremacy

[illiterateoption]

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If Madden produced a game we all loved there wouldn't be an issue. I don't see anybody arguing about competition in The Show forum.

So true. That's because The Show is a competent title. Meaning, when they promote a feature or aspect in their game, it works. Meanwhile Football gamers are promised "Player Sense 2.0" , "Living Worlds" and "Never see the same tackle twice" - things that obviously (based on the overwhelming amount of video evidence) have not worked as advertised.

Arguments about competition will continue until Madden delivers and properly implements the gameplay elements they promote.

[kjcheezhead]

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I'm with you. This is one of my fundamental frustrations with Madden, in that ratings are what dictates interactions all the time and not actual physics. It wouldn't be bad if the ratings actually were tied to reality, but in real life 205 pound DB's know what's going to happen if they are in the 3-3-5 and 11 personnel is in the huddle. It's unfortunate that F=ma doesn't mean anything sometimes.

Going back to the video. The fact physics doesn't matter with dbs is only a small part of the problem. Again, once a offensive lineman and a defensive lineman engage, they stop in their tracks. Engaged defenders need to be flowing in the direction of the run, trying to keep the rb from getting to the edge and turning upfield.

Madden 15 didn't stay in my console long enough to try it, but I remember that users could steer blocks. However steering 1 block wouldn't help here because you would just create a cutback lane without the rest of the line. You need everyone moving towards the play, filling their gaps, or gap assignments to fix this.

Without gap assignments, you need physics to not matter because otherwise you wouldn't be able to stop those runs at all. Problem is, madden' s fix means I don't need any strategy. Pass defense formations are the most effective for both pass and run so there is no need to ever call base defense.

Long story short, gap assignments and engaged player movement aren't hardcore needs. They are critical to making a game play like football in my opinion.

[bucky60]

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I actually think the older generation has lower expectations. Especially the guys i remember who were on this site 10-15 years ago. I'm damn near 40. I dont have the time or energy to obsess and complain over video games that I used to.

I'm 55 and I'm running out of time to obsess over an NFL/Football video game. Pretty soon I'll be too old to be able to play them. I've already lost the joystick touch (no giggling) and have become more of a Manager/Franchise person. Running out of time is what's made the last decade so frustrating.

I completely understand your entire post. For me, I've always been "the less a sports video game REMINDS me it's a game, the better".

And congrats on the family. Enjoy them as much as possible.

[jmurphy31]

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Im 44, married with a 9-yr old daughter

I can 1000% agree with you on this

great post dude

#WisdomIsAGoodThing

I'm 36 with 2 kids (1 just turned 1) and I coach hoops year round. The suspend/resume function on my Xbox one has allowed me to get the most out of madden 15.

As someone earlier posted. I hope players play like their real life counterparts.

Also I hope the fight for air supremacy isn't just user controlled like foot planting was.

[rocknrollcowb0y]

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what pisses me off the most about 15's WRs is that on out routes, your WR will always run out of bounds unless you make him stop but that makes him stop in place and then you have to point him upfield. Why cant they just program them to plant their foot and go up field?? cant be that hard

[oneamongthefence]

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what pisses me off the most about 15's WRs is that on out routes, your WR will always run out of bounds unless you make him stop but that makes him stop in place and then you have to point him upfield. Why cant they just program them to plant their foot and go up field?? cant be that hard

Just to piggy back off this there needs to be a just fall down logic for receivers and running backs. How many times do I have to watch a sure first down end up losing yards because break tackle animations forces you to run backwards and lose yards.

[NYJets]

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hey snatched up NCAA and Arena football as well as the ESPN license to lock out as much competition as they could.

Man that pissed me off as much as anything. The ESPN license was amazing for 2K their presentation completely blew away anything we had ever seen before and EA not only buys the license, but then barely even uses it.

[GiantBlue76]

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Man that pissed me off as much as anything. The ESPN license was amazing for 2K their presentation completely blew away anything we had ever seen before and EA not only buys the license, but then barely even uses it.

They did not purchase the ESPN license to use it in their games. They purchased it to lock out competitors from having a "Recognizable brand" in their product. If you read the court documents in the Pecover lawsuit, you will read the testimony and emails of the EA executives stating this among other things.

You will also learn the true intentions of EA with respect to the exclusive license and how some Tiburon employees felt about the renewal of that license. Some of it may surprise you. Not everyone at EA Tiburon felt this was a good move.

[gustavus]

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It's great that you've been able to find enjoyment in the game. It's also great that you understand the frustration that some of us still have. Just know we're out here still just voicing our opinions because we haven't found a way to really enjoy NFL Football gaming in awhile. As I always say, I have more fun on the hype train and discussing the game than actually playing it.

I would argue that you have never enjoyed NFL football gaming. There is no classic game that would stand up to the expectations of more recent gamers.

I'm in the old crowd, too. Part of the reason we can enjoy some of these games that seem to have too many flaws is that we grew up actually playing and enjoying games with a ton more flaws.

[SageInfinite]

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I would argue that you have never enjoyed NFL football gaming. There is no classic game that would stand up to the expectations of more recent gamers.

I'm in the old crowd, too. Part of the reason we can enjoy some of these games that seem to have too many flaws is that we grew up actually playing and enjoying games with a ton more flaws.

You would lose that argument. I'm not the oldest cat here, but I've been playing since the original John Madden Football on Genesis. It's simply that certain features and gameplay details get added to games and become the standard. If that standard has not been met or exceeded, the game becomes less enjoyable, especially after a decade.

[NYJets]

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They did not purchase the ESPN license to use it in their games. They purchased it to lock out competitors from having a "Recognizable brand" in their product. If you read the court documents in the Pecover lawsuit, you will read the testimony and emails of the EA executives stating this among other things.

I get what the motivation for buying it was, just wish they could have tried to make a better game with it even if it was just a secondary motivation. Just makes no sense after seeing what 2K did with 2K5, then buying the license that would have allowed them to do the same, and instead releasing the trash that was Madden 06.

[NDAlum]

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Thread has run its course and is no longer remotely on topic.