Madden NFL 16 Launches on August 25th - News, Features and Details Arrive in May

[crf2012]

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i only really care what is changed in cfm soooo
1. get rid of game prep, it is wayyyyy to easy to fix problems just by saying hey ill give him some points, a player can never make a play in the games but still end up high ovr just from game prep.
2. Practice squads, realistic, contracts, coordinators at least for o and d, the little things that really should be in here
3. remove the rpg factor in maybe a 4th option, sorta like myleague in 2k, let me just choose all 32 teams without being all 32 owners let me be commisoner maybe ? idk just cut the crap and let me play franchise they way i could on ps2
4. some version of the extra point show would be nice
5. completely overhaul the draft, allow player edits, user made big boards, draft personality ( mel kiper todd mcshay) draft boards, mock drafts, more immersive scouting maybe bring back the shrine game from ps2, not sure if they even show 40 times and bench numbers, have the combine results,
6. holdouts, trade requests, saw someone in here say players requesting other players this was one of the more intriguing things for me on ps2 bring back players wanting money after big years maybe have a rating that increases/decreases likelyhood of this
7. fix whatever ungodly thing causes top teams to finish last place every
year
8. make free agency fun and realistic, players wanting to play in places based on scheme, location, loyalty, etc this is a must
9. bring back player traits from madden 12, make them placeable, ie you can label your franchise qb or label a player veteran mentor, dont include things like butterfingers or attribute effectors, just things that let you know who a player is, and for the cpu i feel like this would be a way to help with their logic, if they have their franchise qb they dont go draft one, if they have aging veteran they do
lastly
10. I would LOVE if newspapers returned, honestly i cant stand reading the twitter feed, i used to always read the preseason predictions from the newspapers on ps2, maybe just fit something that does the same thing into either a extra point esque show or find some way to do it in the feed but i want predictions and the other wonderful parts of the newspapers back in this game

I know my ideas will most likely not be addressed however im hopeful at least numbers, 1 3 5 6 and 7 get touched, even that seems unlikely

[slick1ru2]

Madden NFL 16 Launches on August 25th - News, Features and Details Arrive in May

Unless they make the best PLAYING Madden game ever, I won't buy the game this year if they don't at least:



A) Allow complete player editing. Everything. At any time in the season. Appearance, equipment, position, rating. Everything. Tired of seeing all the jacked up ratings for drafted players and not being able to fix them. On that point.....



B) Allow us to edit the draft classes. This is the ONLY way to have a realistic, immersive Franchise after the first year, in my opinion. I do NOT want make believe prospects with ridiculous names that I can't fix. I never made it past one full season in Franchise because the "fake" players just wouldn't allow me to get into it.



I could have enough changes I "want" to fill the entire alphabet here, easily. These are the two MAIN ones that I must have to purchase the game and, to me, they seem very reasonable.....even easy. I guess there has to be a reason they have not been implemented to this point (unless EA has just been lazy in regards to player and draftee editing). With no NCAA to prop up the terrible draft experience of Madden any longer, the ONLY way I see for EA to offer us Franchise-only guys a meaningful experience that is worth our $60+, is to implement the above two editing abilities.

So after settling a lawsuit with college players over their likeness in the NCAA games, resulting in huge fines and the demise of a successful game franchise, you want to be able to add their name and likeness into Madden and threaten it? Bwhahahaha

Until EA decides to pay players for their likeness, I don't expect they will do anything to risk being sued again.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/dennis-dodd/23859858/ea-sports-settles-likeness-suits-thousands-of-current-former-players-eligible-for-money

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[tarheelguy4736]

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So after settling a lawsuit with college players over their likeness in the NCAA games, resulting in huge fines and the demise of a successful game franchise, you want to be able to add their name and likeness into Madden and threaten it? Bwhahahaha

Until EA decides to pay players for their likeness, I don't expect they will do anything to risk being sued again.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/dennis-dodd/23859858/ea-sports-settles-likeness-suits-thousands-of-current-former-players-eligible-for-money

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Once they declare for the NFL draft, they forfeit their remaining eligibility and can no longer play college ball. So editing draft classes would have no effect on player likeness, since by that point they have no eligibility remaining. There would be no grounds for a lawsuit, as EA would allow editing of generic players, which it already allows in the game anyway.

Technically, if you use the logic someone could sue because of editing features, someone could replace all the NFL players with all the main college programs and their players and then those players could sue. However, they wouldn't win the lawsuit as their likeness isn't already implemented by the company who made the game, but the consumer added it later after purchasing it.

[roadman]

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Once they declare for the NFL draft, they forfeit their remaining eligibility and can no longer play college ball. So editing draft classes would have no effect on player likeness, since by that point they have no eligibility remaining. There would be no grounds for a lawsuit, as EA would allow editing of generic players, which it already allows in the game anyway.

Technically, if you use the logic someone could sue because of editing features, someone could replace all the NFL players with all the main college programs and their players and then those players could sue. However, they wouldn't win the lawsuit as their likeness isn't already implemented by the company who made the game, but the consumer added it later after purchasing it.

I have to agree with slick on this one.

You don't see legends in the game anymore because Jim Brown and other legends sued EA and the NFLPA over their likeness in the game.

And what about draft classes after the 1st year, juniors, sophomores, etc.... .

EA will take the safer route since being sued by former football legends and former college players. There is just too much risk involved.

[capa]

Re: Madden NFL 16 Launches on August 25th - News, Features and Details Arrive in May

I don't see them doing anything to make the cpu play smarter and better or more aggressively. I think all their changes will be to give the user more control on passing and receiving. Those who play against the cpu will most likely get the short end of the stick...again. With EA it is all about user vs user...especially online.

Just my feeling...hope I am wrong.

C

[tarheelguy4736]

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I have to agree with slick on this one.

You don't see legends in the game anymore because Jim Brown and other legends sued EA and the NFLPA over their likeness in the game.

And what about draft classes after the 1st year, juniors, sophomores, etc.... .

EA will take the safer route since being sued by former football legends and former college players. There is just too much risk involved.

Yes, I understand about the player's likeness already being in the game but I am talking about editing generic players who have no related likeness to any current college player, which was what the OP was referring too. If EA doesn't put the players likeness in the game but allows editing, they are not liable as a company since they did not create the likeness, the consumer did. What the consumer does with game, has no ill effect on EA as a company.

[roadman]

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Yes, I understand about the player's likeness already being in the game but I am talking about editing generic players who have no related likeness to any current college player, which was what the OP was referring too. If EA doesn't put the players likeness in the game but allows editing, they are not liable as a company since they did not create the likeness, the consumer did. What the consumer does with game, has no ill effect on EA as a company.

And I get that, too, but when CFM came out, EA said they ran into big issues when trying to implement draft classes. Basically, everything was not working or breaking.

If they figured it out, great, I'm all for it, but we haven't seen draft classes since CFM came in.

[slick1ru2]

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Yes, I understand about the player's likeness already being in the game but I am talking about editing generic players who have no related likeness to any current college player, which was what the OP was referring too. If EA doesn't put the players likeness in the game but allows editing, they are not liable as a company since they did not create the likeness, the consumer did. What the consumer does with game, has no ill effect on EA as a company.

They lost their lawsuit saying they only had generic players in the NCAA games, that customers changed the names and customized the equipment. And while a study showed only a fraction had the correct player number or home town, they still lost the lawsuit.

I'm surprised they are even allowed to mention player schools in the current game's draft/scouting since they no longer have an agreement with the Collegiate Licensing Company who licenses college teams use.

[bringbacksimfootball]

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I have to agree with slick on this one.

You don't see legends in the game anymore because Jim Brown and other legends sued EA and the NFLPA over their likeness in the game.

And what about draft classes after the 1st year, juniors, sophomores, etc.... .

EA will take the safer route since being sued by former football legends and former college players. There is just too much risk involved.

EA resolved that issue with legends though. There are a ton of them in MUT now.

[Reejer]

Re: Madden NFL 16 Launches on August 25th - News, Features and Details Arrive in May

EA resolved that issue with legends though. There are a ton of them in MUT now.

Yeah, but I am a sim football gamer (as I thought you were from your moniker). I can't get into a fantasy football card based game (tried it, don't dig it).


I would like to see a game that you could replay each Super Bowl with original rosters. And have lingering injuries matter like SBII the Packers were beat up, so some of the ratings could reflect the injury.

[jfsolo]

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In ESPN's article about Carolina's accumulation of tall, long armed, pass catching targets, it mentions that Cam Newton had 72 overthrown passes last year. He was only number 2 in the league in that category.

Sadly, it's not likely, but the Madden team really needs to fully commit to making QB accuracy as dynamic as it is in real life.

We know that there are many gameplay flaws that would require a total rebuild of the game to fix, but I can't believe that this is one of them. They did better last year, but there is still a lot of work to be done in this area.

[bringbacksimfootball]

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Yeah, but I am a sim football gamer (as I thought you were from your moniker). I can't get into a fantasy football card based game (tried it, don't dig it).

That doesn't make any sense at all.

For one, I don't play MUT and didn't suggest that I did. Second, if you played with the legends that wouldn't make it non-sim, see All-Pro Football; no football game was more sim than that and every player in the game was a legend or ex-pro football player. Third, simulation is about football fundamentals, intelligent AI, proper X's and O's, proper animations, authentic presentation, etc. not just the names on the back of the jerseys and the logos on the helmets, that's what casuals and non-sim players worry about which is why Madden remains a successful game despite lacking lots of authenticity in the areas I just mentioned.

Finally, it's almost impossible to miss the legends being in MUT since it's advertised practically every day on the front of the Madden game menu without ever having to access MUT. I don't even play Madden much, but it's advertised a lot online making it hard to miss either way.

[roadman]

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EA resolved that issue with legends though. There are a ton of them in MUT now.

Thanks, I wouldn't know because I don't touch MUT.

Just miss where you could play with legends without MUT. lol

[bringbacksimfootball]

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Thanks, I wouldn't know because I don't touch MUT.

Just miss where you could play with legends without MUT. lol

The legends are advertised quite a bit in-game and online, so you wouldn't need to play MUT to hear about it, I don't play MUT at all as I'm somewhat morally opposed to paid-DLC programs of any kind. I just think the industry has gone overboard with it and it's had a negative effect on gaming, that and all the patching. A number of games have been released in the last 7-8 years that never should've been and were totally broken or incomplete, but the patching and DLC culture/mindset of current AAA studios were a driving force behind them being pushed out anyway.

I agree that just being able to use legends anywhere was nice, but I suppose that once EA/Tiburon found a way to use that as a big selling point for MUT that possibility was never coming back to the table.

[Reejer]

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That doesn't make any sense at all.

For one, I don't play MUT and didn't suggest that I did. Second, if you played with the legends that wouldn't make it non-sim, see All-Pro Football; no football game was more sim than that and every player in the game was a legend or ex-pro football player. Third, simulation is about football fundamentals, intelligent AI, proper X's and O's, proper animations, authentic presentation, etc. not just the names on the back of the jerseys and the logos on the helmets, that's what casuals and non-sim players worry about which is why Madden remains a successful game despite lacking lots of authenticity in the areas I just mentioned.

Finally, it's almost impossible to miss the legends being in MUT since it's advertised practically every day on the front of the Madden game menu without ever having to access MUT. I don't even play Madden much, but it's advertised a lot online making it hard to miss either way.

Sorry, I thought with your statement, "EA resolved that issue with legends though. There are a ton of them in MUT now.", that you were excited about the ton of legends in MUT. And I never said that having legends in the game is non-sim. I would actually like it, but not just the Superstars, I would like to be able to pick anyone from NFL's past and present (but that would be one heck of an undertaking so just the Super Bowl teams would suffice).