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  • IndyColts2
    Banned
    • Mar 2009
    • 570

    #196
    Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

    If only it wasn't about making more money and EA used Pre-order incentives for getting exclusive equipment in the game to use on a created player or add to an existing player. Or extra TD celebrations and dances, or the use of classic stadium of your choice, or something other than a head start on MUT cards.

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    • BJNT
      Pro
      • Sep 2002
      • 531

      #197
      Originally posted by robertgriffin10
      Yes scouting has been an extreme flaw and I'm worried because I didn't see anything about draft class sharing on there yet. Unless they improve the draft classes
      As long as they provide some type of way to edit draft classes. I'm good.

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      • cowboy_kmoney
        MVP
        • Jun 2008
        • 1621

        #198
        Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed (UPDATE: Pre-Order Info Added)

        Originally posted by Segagendude
        "Hype train now boarding at gate 2......please have your tickets and boarding passes ready. Thank you and enjoy your trip".
        All aboard all aboard...

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        • Gridiron
          Banned
          • Jun 2008
          • 418

          #199
          Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

          Originally posted by NDAlum
          Just give up "tourney" and "sim" mode.

          All you online guys that don't want botched snaps, missed FG's, fumbles, penalties, off target passes...go ahead and have your tourney mode. Have a field day.

          Let the sim crowd get all the little details you see on Sunday's...and Thursday's/Monday's/Saturday's
          Truth. My only beef would be, if you have botched snaps and all that, at least let it be botched if I mess up somehow. Like, I have to be paying attention to some kind of control when Im snapping or itll get screwed up. I feel you, it should be in the game, I just dont wanna lose games cause the CPU decided to be random without me havin a chance to do somethin about it.

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          • MajorSupreme
            MVP
            • Aug 2013
            • 1559

            #200
            Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

            Originally posted by Gridiron
            Truth. My only beef would be, if you have botched snaps and all that, at least let it be botched if I mess up somehow. Like, I have to be paying attention to some kind of control when Im snapping or itll get screwed up. I feel you, it should be in the game, I just dont wanna lose games cause the CPU decided to be random without me havin a chance to do somethin about it.
            I could see it being kind of a penalty for quick-snapping. Hitting X too much or too quickly to snap the ball could cause the botched snap.

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            • tarek
              Pro
              • Sep 2009
              • 840

              #201
              Why can't they just bring out an updated NFL Head Coach game. All these gameplay improvements are fine and dandy, but coach mode players need some love.
              Here's to looking out for Beyond the Sideline.

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              • oneamongthefence
                Nothing to see here folks
                • Apr 2009
                • 5683

                #202
                Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

                I think the tournament group that everyone thinks so poorly of would welcome random occurrences in games. Many times these guys are more knowledgeable about football philosophy. They do use exploits however many seem to know and point out how Madden is flawed and why stuff like that shouldn't happen or be allowed. I'm sure many would jump for joy as more SIM elements are put in. I think SIM vs tourney is a bogus argument.
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                • Skyboxer
                  Donny Baseball!
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 20302

                  #203
                  Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

                  Don't they have "tourney" guys working with them??
                  Where the results of that as far as going more sim?

                  Haven't seen much yet.
                  All I've seen is things like "We don't like penalties as they aren't fun"..
                  arent fun to who? They are part of the game..

                  Then there's the "Why doesn't the AI act realistically in these occurances??" EA answer: "Just take control and do yourself"

                  What I'm saying is in the end it all falls on EA and they IMO are simply catering to highest buying population....Not Tourney or Sim but the casuals...
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                  • Nwo4Life75
                    Banned
                    • May 2014
                    • 211

                    #204
                    Sounds like another Madden with bells and whistles and still probably not a true simulation! Fix the broken penalty system and EA watch a real NFL broadcast that's the way it should be done! I'm hoping I'm wrong about all of this and EA proves me wrong!

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                    • rkocjay
                      Pro
                      • Oct 2013
                      • 601

                      #205
                      When I saw the word deluxe I laughed
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                      • Mr.Smif
                        Banned
                        • Jun 2014
                        • 796

                        #206
                        Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

                        Originally posted by oneamongthefence
                        I think the tournament group that everyone thinks so poorly of would welcome random occurrences in games. Many times these guys are more knowledgeable about football philosophy. They do use exploits however many seem to know and point out how Madden is flawed and why stuff like that shouldn't happen or be allowed. I'm sure many would jump for joy as more SIM elements are put in. I think SIM vs tourney is a bogus argument.
                        I agree, the only reason tourney guys play like the do is because the game lets them. If a better more sim type NFL game came out I bet a lot of them would play that too.

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                        • rtkiii
                          Banned
                          • Sep 2012
                          • 522

                          #207
                          Hope the Presentation tweaks mean that stats actually work correctly in game when you are just doing Player CFM. 95% of the time there were no stats. Weekly wrap up show? Please

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                          • Hooe
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 21555

                            #208
                            Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

                            Originally posted by oneamongthefence
                            I think the tournament group that everyone thinks so poorly of would welcome random occurrences in games. Many times these guys are more knowledgeable about football philosophy. They do use exploits however many seem to know and point out how Madden is flawed and why stuff like that shouldn't happen or be allowed. I'm sure many would jump for joy as more SIM elements are put in. I think SIM vs tourney is a bogus argument.

                            I have to disagree. I don't think the competitive gaming community would react well to any game mechanic which could affect their ability to win a tournament which competitors had zero control over. The competitive gaming community typically wants a 100% skill based game, not one where the game can potentially decide who wins solely based on essentially a dice roll without any user influence over the result. Imagine if in Call Of Duty, for example, if guns randomly jammed in online play without any warning. This would be incredibly frustrating to a lot of people.l, regardless whether guns jamming is a realistic addition.

                            Personally I'd welcome random events like bad snaps. I don't anticipate ever getting them in Madden, at least as random events, on account of the e-sports scene, however. I honestly don't anticipate any new mechanics in Madden which rely solely on dice rolls. That's not how the game has been built to this point. If we ever get something like bad snaps, it'll be on account of a new game mechanic specific to triggering shotgun snaps, not solely a ratings check and a dice roll.

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                            • RACZILLA
                              Run After Catch
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 224

                              #209
                              Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

                              Originally posted by CM Hooe
                              I have to disagree. I don't think the competitive gaming community would react well to any game mechanic which could affect their ability to win a tournament which competitors had zero control over. The competitive gaming community typically wants a 100% skill based game, not one where the game can potentially decide who wins solely based on essentially a dice roll without any user influence over the result. Imagine if in Call Of Duty, for example, if guns randomly jammed in online play without any warning. This would be incredibly frustrating to a lot of people.l, regardless whether guns jamming is a realistic addition.

                              Personally I'd welcome random events like bad snaps. I don't anticipate ever getting them in Madden, at least as random events, on account of the e-sports scene, however. I honestly don't anticipate any new mechanics in Madden which rely solely on dice rolls. That's not how the game has been built to this point. If we ever get something like bad snaps, it'll be on account of a new game mechanic specific to triggering shotgun snaps, not solely a ratings check and a dice roll.
                              Agree with what you're saying in the sense that competitive gamers probably want an even playing field and an opportunity to win based on skill, not random bad luck.

                              It seems like a solvable problem though? Plenty of games have a set of standard competitive settings that are used. I don't know that there's any reason that couldn't be the case here and people can opt into the experience that best fits them.
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                              • Hooe
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 21555

                                #210
                                Re: Some Madden NFL 16 Features Revealed, Pre-Order & Deluxe Edition Details

                                Originally posted by RACZILLA
                                Agree with what you're saying in the sense that competitive gamers probably want an even playing field and an opportunity to win based on skill, not random bad luck.

                                It seems like a solvable problem though? Plenty of games have a set of standard competitive settings that are used. I don't know that there's any reason that couldn't be the case here and people can opt into the experience that best fits them.
                                It's a solvable problem, yes. It's debatable if it's a problem Tiburon is interested in solving said problem or more importantly if they even see their current approach without random events as a problem at all. In fact, they could see random events as a problem itself.

                                Particularly when people start investing their money into things like Ultimate Team, I'm sure the first player who loses a game on account of a bad shotgun snap (decided purely by a dice roll) and as a result doesn't have enough coins to buy new contracts to renew his MUT team's top quarterback and receiver without spending real-world money would be absolutely pissed.

                                Poor team management on the user's part? Perhaps. But that's not how the user is going to see the events in this case.

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