Madden NFL 16 Connected Franchise Details Revealed

[cuttingteeth]

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If I can't rename or resize players in my draft class...then I'll just do it in create-a-player to a further, exacting degree. Either way, EA has allowed or not allowed me to do so. I'll just live with knowing they are confused as to what contradictions and/or loopholes are, and I'll move on.

On a funnier note: Let NDSU come trying to sue me, should I make their team via teambuilder in NCAA 14. I bet I make better uniforms than they have, and they should instead be thanking me that I like them enough to try making them more relevant in my game compared to real life. My making them more popular to my friends, perhaps a whole league and however many others is me giving them free promotion, as well.

On a disturbing and more legally binding note: If legal types were really, really smart and wanted to dig for something worth going after per actual likenesses...they would pay attention to EA's Sims games and online communities where tons more real people's likenesses are in use and doing far, far more crude and horrible things that probably go beyond the statutes of slander (at the least).

[howboutdat]

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here is the new press row podcast out today with Kolbe....http://hwcdn.libsyn.com/p/9/8/0/980c...2b537c5860da57

[Steel4Reel]

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Two different things that could each lead to a lawsuit. The only difference is with the first one EA would likely win and the with the second one, they would lose. Like I said before, it still costs a lot of money to win a lawsuit.

Just a long winded excuse.

This is tantamount to "EA is scared". Let me get my violin...

You still havent answered why countless other videogames have customization tools and the developers dont get sued constantly because users create characters or rosters that have likenesses to real life people.

The problem with your theory is that it doesnt make any sense at all. The inclusion of editable draft classes has never been shown to reduce sales from one year to the next.

Maybe you should actually figure out what Im saying since I never made that claim ONCE.

You tell me Im not making sense when you dont even seem to understand the case being made. Mmmkay....

Most gamers want the newest game (especially if its improved). They arent going stick with an old version of the game just because they can edit draft classes and add the new players in the game.

Well, the bolded is the first issue with Madden.

Really? Because, I know a good amount of people who still play Madden 12 just because of that. Hell, there are alot of people that still play PS2 Maddens and Madden 08 PC because of that.

Im not saying the majority do that, but acting like it doesnt appeal to alot of people is silly.

They want the rookie likenesses and presentation like specific commentary that comes with a new version of the game.

And? Not even sure what youre debating since I never claimed people wouldnt buy the newer games.

My case has everything to do with sim guys who play multiple seasons of franchise and want real college classes.

So what benefit does EA get from as you say "limiting" control?

Because then you have to rely on them for more. You have to play the game the way they want you to....which is why they have regularly removed features for the last decade.

Explain that. Explain what the point is of removing create a player from franchise? Explain what the point is of removing customization of teams, players and stadiums? Explain why games 10 years older are more customizable than Madden is today? Explain why other sports titles allow you to customize rosters, players and even draft classes, but Madden gets a pass.

Explain that...without the same excuses that dont seem to hold anyone else back.

As you also say, it would be easy to implement, so why would a company like EA (that likes to generate revenue) not add that to the game? Especially if this feature is in such high demand and its inclusion will increase sales?

This is such a laughable argument.

Its the same reason they havent implemented a ton of features that would improve the game.

They cater to casual fans.....they ones they can trick into believing its a good football game.

And you really need to figure out what you are arguing here. I never claimed implementing that one feature would make them boatloads of more money, but it would absolutely improve the experience for a large group of their gamers.

Now we can go with your theory that evil EA hates to give players control over their games.

or

My theory which is that the lawsuits have EA gunshy about too much customization especially when it relates to college athletes.

Ill go with my theory being the real reason....with your theory being the cover excuse they use....just like their beloved "short development cycles" excuse.

Now my theory is supported by the fact that they havent added customizable draft classes to Madden, they eliminated fighter share from UFC (it was in Fight Night Champion and when EA planned to release NCAA 15 (or College Football 15) it was rumored that Teambuilder was going to be eliminated.

EA is scared....got it.

As I said, just another excuse for them to cut corners.

What support do you have for your theory?

The fact that they have been removing customization and popular features for the last decade, perhaps? Long before any of the NCAA stuff even happened.

For that reason alone, my theory holds up alot better than yours.

[capa]

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here is the new press row podcast out today with Kolbe....http://hwcdn.libsyn.com/p/9/8/0/980c...2b537c5860da57

LOTS of talk about catering to the casual gamer for CFM.



Ugh

C

[howboutdat]

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LOTS of talk about catering to the casual gamer for CFM.



Ugh

C

EXACTLY, and this is why ive lost all hope for madden now, Forget the "just wait" ....no point in waiting on them catering to the casuals.

[capa]

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EXACTLY, and this is why ive lost all hope for madden now, Forget the "just wait" ....no point in waiting on them catering to the casuals.

Yep...lots of "goals" talk too. Really sounds like they are pinpointing casual younger crowd with this stuff...not a bad marketing decision, but certainly not great news for sim guys and long time Madden players/sufferers.

C

[howboutdat]

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"a timeline so you know where you are in the season" .....

[Paul Heyman Guy]

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Other games do it so it's more than likely bc EA knows a significant amount of people wouldn't purchase future maddens if they could keep a cfm going with real life created draft classes. With 32 team control and custom classes you could be playing madden 16 with true to life NFL 2018 rosters.

I don't know about that. Not trying to derail the thread but NBA 2K has had the ability to create draft classes and every year people still buy the game. So their sales haven't been hurt by custom draft classes at all.

I really don't think it would cause people to not buy it each year just because of it. People still buy NBA 2K each year despite custom draft classes and that wouldn't change if Madden implemented it.

[howboutdat]

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so instead of having to hunt and peck thru numerous attributes to find what this payer is good at ,we're now giving them the power, to spend some scouting points on this player and we will now tell you his best attribute. If you send points a second time , we will tell you his second best attribute....

that is a loose quote ( not word for word, but exactly what he was saying) ..... Thanks for taking out so much mystery in the drafts!

[Steel4Reel]

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Yep...lots of "goals" talk too. Really sounds like they are pinpointing casual younger crowd with this stuff...not a bad marketing decision, but certainly not great news for sim guys and long time Madden players/sufferers.

C

Thats part of what annoys me.

Their continued lack of care for that core group of the football gaming world.

We may not be the majority, but its still a big enough group that they shouldnt just be ignoring it.

But hey....as long as EA doesnt have any incentive to please anyone other than the majority, they wont.

[Big FN Deal]

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I don't know about that. Not trying to derail the thread but NBA 2K has had the ability to create draft classes and every year people still buy the game. So their sales haven't been hurt by custom draft classes at all.

I really don't think it would cause people to not buy it each year just because of it. People still buy NBA 2K each year despite custom draft classes and that wouldn't change if Madden implemented it.

Yeah man but that's arguing reality vs what EA claims or is speculated to base their decisions on. What I mean is, custom draft classes may not hinder sales, they may increase them or whatever but that doesn't mean EA sees it that way for Madden. We have a whole decade of EA, other businesses as well but this a EA Madden forum, doing whatever with Madden for reasons that seem to defy common wisdom and what other games/companies have done.

[xx13cloud]

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Is there STILL no co op franchise? Im tired of playing alone why cant friends play on the same team in a sports game...

[sebennayx]

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so instead of having to hunt and peck thru numerous attributes to find what this payer is good at ,we're now giving them the power, to spend some scouting points on this player and we will now tell you his best attribute. If you send points a second time , we will tell you his second best attribute....

that is a loose quote ( not word for word, but exactly what he was saying) ..... Thanks for taking out so much mystery in the drafts!

I think this is a poor direction to take CFM and scouting, but I can kind of see how they came to that direction. Here's an example;

- You pop in tape of Cordarrelle Patterson, what's the first thing you notice (outside of athletic skills portrayed by combine results)?
1. Incredible elusiveness, tough for tacklers to get their hands on him (ELU)

Take more time and watch more tape, what else do you notice?
2. Ability to navigate traffic with the ball in his hands (BCV)

Etc.

Again, I think it's a poor choice for the direction of CFM, but that's how I interpret it with regards to scouting. It should be much more immersive and advanced...

[Sheba2011]

The scouting sounds very good this year, still not quite what I want but a lot better than years past and the combine results are excellent.

[l8knight1]

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Is there STILL no co op franchise? Im tired of playing alone why cant friends play on the same team in a sports game...

As far as I can tell, they haven't said yes or no. Same for editable draft classes/rosters. Here's hoping.