12 Women's National Teams are in FIFA 16, Releases September 22nd - Trailer Included

[aholbert32]

Re: 12 Women's National Teams are in FIFA 16, Releases September 22nd - Trailer Inclu

The bad news is resources were directed away from things that should have been addressed first.

The good news is EA will have metrics on whether or not this feature will be used and/or worth the effort. They will let the marketplace decide and I have no problem with that.

I'm dumbfounded by this. What resources are being diverted?

They added 12 teams. They probably did no more than a week (if that) of motion tracking. How is this any different than them adding Orlando City or NYFC to the game?

I could understand if they created a mode around it but the teams are only avaialble through play now. Also, I guarantee that all of the things you guys want improved from FIFA 15 are handled by different groups. Its not as if the Be A Pro or Franchise folks would be the same people working on adding teams.

[cmutat17]

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It's not problem if one person is ignorant. Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with what orion typed, but I don't think he meant it. It's hard to convey tone on this forum, or on any forum.


EA was bound to know that adding women's soccer into the game was going to cause a stir up, but it's going to happen and it's not a big deal unless there were a hundred more hard core misogynistic views.

What don't you people get here. Do the words I KID have no meaning to you? Again nothing, absolutely nothing that I said is related in any way whatsoever to women, my view of them, their role in society, or their place when it comes to sports and video games. Did I make that clear enough yet? Or shall I continue? Jiminy Christmas.

What do you not get about an offensive joke not being funny? "I kid" isn't some magic get out of trouble line you can use when saying misogynistic stuff.

Yes, your form of humor does reveal what you think of women's place in society.

like saying you're going to "Drop a bomb on a Battleship" I'm sure military personnel, especially those in the Navy may find this much more offensive than anything I've said here. Be consistent sir.[/quote]




Please, stop talking. I tried to help you.

[jvalverde88]

Re: 12 Women's National Teams are in FIFA 16, Releases September 22nd - Trailer Inclu

Because it is common sense. In any sort of business....especially one on a hard deadline, finite resources are available and applied to said product/goal. Those resources are more or less static. And FIFA has a laundry list of issues that should and need to be addressed. Instead resources and focus, no matter how little, were used on this feature.

But we don't know that, plus they just added teams its not like they gave them their own mode. All they did was add teams. Its funny because I don't remember seeing anyone complain about the legends team or the new MLS teams they added late in FIFA 15.

[zoom zoom]

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What do you not get about an offensive joke not being funny? "I kid" isn't some magic get out of trouble line you can use when saying misogynistic stuff.

Yes, your form of humor does reveal what you think of women's place in society.

like saying you're going to "Drop a bomb on a Battleship" I'm sure military personnel, especially those in the Navy may find this much more offensive than anything I've said here. Be consistent sir.

Seriously? That's what you got? You fished through my posting history, and the best you got was that I made a joke about playing a battleship level in the new Rory golf game?

You can't defend what you said, you had to try to find something to lower the bar.

And you still failed.

[ImTellinTim]

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It's probably best to just drop that back and forth or take it to PMs. Don't need to get banned over a dumb argument.

[Dos_Santos]

Re: 12 Women's National Teams are in FIFA 16, Releases September 22nd - Trailer Inclu

I'm dumbfounded by this. What resources are being diverted?

They added 12 teams. They probably did no more than a week (if that) of motion tracking. How is this any different than them adding Orlando City or NYFC to the game?

I could understand if they created a mode around it but the teams are only avaialble through play now. Also, I guarantee that all of the things you guys want improved from FIFA 15 are handled by different groups. Its not as if the Be A Pro or Franchise folks would be the same people working on adding teams.

It will take way too long to explain.

Again, the good news is EA will have metrics on whether to keep using resources on this feature in the future.

[aholbert32]

Re: 12 Women's National Teams are in FIFA 16, Releases September 22nd - Trailer Inclu

It will take way too long to explain.

Again, the good news is EA will have metrics on whether to keep using resources on this feature in the future.

Thats a copout. Explain to me how adding teams takes away from gameplay improvements, franchise improvements and Be A Pro improvements when they are worked on by different teams.

[TheLetterZ]

Re: 12 Women's National Teams are in FIFA 16, Releases September 22nd - Trailer Inclu

Thats a copout. Explain to me how adding teams takes away from gameplay improvements, franchise improvements and Be A Pro improvements when they are worked on by different teams.

Or how it's a "marketing disaster."

How many people who wouldn't have bought the game before will now buy the game because they can play with women's teams? Probably not a huge number, I'm guessing, but a meaningful number of people for sure.

How many people were planning on buying this game and now won't because there are women's teams in the game? No one.

[aholbert32]

Re: 12 Women's National Teams are in FIFA 16, Releases September 22nd - Trailer Inclu

Or how it's a "marketing disaster."

How many people who wouldn't have bought the game before will now buy the game because they can play with women's teams? Probably not a huge number, I'm guessing, but a meaningful number of people for sure.

How many people were planning on buying this game and now won't because there are women's teams in the game? No one.

Exactly. I remember people saying similar things when the Dream Team was added to 2k. "There are so many bugs in the game, why are thy focusing on this!" "Who cares about this, where are the franchise improvements". Its the same thing and its ridiculous.

[redsox4evur]

Re: 12 Women's National Teams are in FIFA 16, Releases September 22nd - Trailer Inclu

This question needs to be brought up AGAIN, Where does it say that this took away from manager improvements or anything of the like? It doesn't because you don't have one team working on the game. You have a team for each part of the game. So there's a team exclusively for manager/bapro, gameplay, fut, etc. So let's not knock them and wait for more info to be released before we make conclusions.

[zoom zoom]

Re: 12 Women's National Teams are in FIFA 16, Releases September 22nd - Trailer Inclu

No what I did was make a point that not everything we say can be taken 100% literally. You can choose to believe that the joke I made had some sort of intentional undertone meant to demean women. I know better, and those that know me know better. I do apologize if you feel it was a low blow. Truthfully this whole thing has gotten out of hand. As men we can agree to disagree, move on, and have more friendly debates later on. Again I want to reiterate to you I am in now way a sexist, and from the beginning my issue was more related to EA's resource allocation as opposed to the actual content added. It could have been "indoor soccer" and my response would have been the same. Doesn't mean I'm biased against indoor soccer or its fans, I Just feel that the dev team should shore up the foundation before adding. Again, I apologize if I offended you in any way as it was not my intention.

I assure you, in no uncertain terms, that when you take time to point out how women aren't gamers, and that maybe it will be appeal to the girls in the nail salon in your argument against the inclusion of the women's teams, that undertones are not the issue. If you can can look at those statements and defend them, they you really are a male chauvinist. Enjoy your privilege.

Because that's the thing. The statements you made are worse when taken in context. What you tried to imply about me made no sense, with or without context. So, also enjoy your false equivalence, too.

[sportsfan8812]

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I assure you, in no uncertain terms, that when you take time to point out how women aren't gamers, and that maybe it will be appeal to the girls in the nail salon in your argument against the inclusion of the women's teams, that undertones are not the issue. If you can can look at those statements and defend them, they you really are a male chauvinist. Enjoy your privilege.

Because that's the thing. The statements you made are worse when taken in context. What you tried to imply about me made no sense, with or without context. So, also enjoy your false equivalence, too.

Can we just let it go? You're a bit much right now zoom zoom.

[JHedges2]

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Can we just let it go? You're a bit much right now zoom zoom.

Agreed. Zeesh. It's like a bunch of women in here.

Er.....I had to, I just had to. Too soon? Hope I don't get a yellow card

[TheLetterZ]

Re: 12 Women's National Teams are in FIFA 16, Releases September 22nd - Trailer Inclu

That said, as I said in my original post, as a GENDER girls/women are rarely gamers. That's a fact. How many women are here at OS? Not many it seems.

No.

It is not a fact.

You are wrong.

Actual studies — FACTS, not your "facts" — say differently.

48 percent of the 190 million gamers in the United States are women.

Millions and millions of women play video games.

And before you respond with a lame joke about them playing cell phone games like Angry Birds and Candy Crush, look at the actual data that shows more than 13 million women play games on Sony and Microsoft consoles at least five days a week — nearly as much as men do.

Furthermore, millions of women play even the most stereotypically masculine games like Madden, Call of Duty, Halo, and Grand Theft Auto despite those games and communities making little effort to make women feel included.

So get your "facts" right before purporting that what you say actually holds any water.

[orion523]

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No.

It is not a fact.

You are wrong.

Actual studies — FACTS, not your "facts" — say differently.

48 percent of the 190 million gamers in the United States are women.

Millions and millions of women play video games.

And before you respond with a lame joke about them playing cell phone games like Angry Birds and Candy Crush, look at the actual data that shows more than 13 million women play games on Sony and Microsoft consoles at least five days a week — nearly as much as men do.

Furthermore, millions of women play even the most stereotypically masculine games like Madden, Call of Duty, Halo, and Grand Theft Auto despite those games and communities making little effort to make women feel included.

So get your "facts" right before purporting that what you say actually holds any water.

You're a little late to the party mate. The facts surprised me I admit, but it does look as if they're the facts. I'm a big boy, I can admit when I'm wrong, and I was here.