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  • brza37
    Pro
    • Oct 2008
    • 748

    #1

    Madden 16 CFM: Still no Draft Board

    According to the latest Game Changers Radio show there will not be a customizable draft board in Madden 16:


    It is very disappointing that they "upgraded" the draft but still did not add a custom draft board. This was a feature that was inexplicably removed from the game after Madden 10. Since 2010, Madden Franchise wishlists on a variety of gaming forums and blogs have had the return of the customizable draft board at the top of their lists.

    It was helpful when we only had offline franchise as you wouldn't have to make manual notes for yourself and keep track of who was gone or not. It was so simple to rank your draft prospects on Madden 10 and in previous versions. Now it takes a certain amount of time and dedication to write down or type into a spreadsheet all the players and ratings that you're interested in.
    But now that online CFM is so big, a customizable draft board is even more important to the point of being almost mandatory. It is near impossible to get 32 guys altogether for 2-3 hours to draft. Every season in online CFMs there are at least a handful of guys who can't make the scheduled draft time. And every season I've seen at least one of those guys who couldn't make the draft quit the franchise because of the CPU's horrible choices. CPU draft logic was improved in Madden 15 but its still not close to comparable with having the CPU pick players that you wanted.

    It is really hard to understand how EA/Tiburon has ignored this feature for a sixth year in a row. Why spend the time and resources to make scouting more engaging/enjoyable yet nullify it by not giving people the chance to set up their own draft board.

    In fact, the changes discussed in the podcast that give an advantage to people who scout weekly will likely only lead to more frustration and quitting in online CFMs if a league member can't be online for the scheduled draft. Last year, people who realized they wouldn't be able to make the draft date were usually able to just skip scouting at the end of the offseason because it would be a wasted effort anyway. Now people are encouraged to scout every week instead of just in one final stage during the offseason and then when league draft dates are set, usually towards the end of the season, people who can't make the scheduled time will have spent hours scouting throughout the season for nothing. So missing the draft means not only missing out on players they might have coveted but also lost time.

    Don't get me wrong, I am glad that they have spent time improving scouting and the draft but this seems like they got ahead of themselves without taking care of the basics; like they bought custom rims for a car that doesn't even run.

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  • howboutdat
    MVP
    • Nov 2012
    • 1908

    #2
    Re: Madden 16 CFM: Still no Draft Board

    exactly , horrible this was not a priority still
    Yup, i said it !



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    • Double_Dribble Rea
      Rookie
      • Jun 2015
      • 37

      #3
      Re: Madden 16 CFM: Still no Draft Board

      sigh how disappointing

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      • jpdavis82
        All Star
        • Sep 2005
        • 8790

        #4
        Re: Madden 16 CFM: Still no Draft Board

        I was going to do a brief transcript from the show last night, but I'll be too busy this week with work and helping serve the kids at vbs at my church. I'll definitely be doing some transcripts next week of radio and podcasts about M16, we should have a lot more to discuss at that point.

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        • Hooe
          Hall Of Fame
          • Aug 2002
          • 21554

          #5
          Re: Madden 16 CFM: Still no Draft Board

          Yeah, this is a bummer. No way around it.

          Maybe I should revisit my draft board app I was working on last summer.

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          • splff3000
            MVP
            • Jun 2003
            • 2867

            #6
            Re: Madden 16 CFM: Still no Draft Board

            This is amazing to me. Outside of having the combine, a customizable draft board was probably the single most thing requested for CFM scouting and drafting. The more I hear about the cfm "additions", the more disappointed I get. It's really looking more and more like EA just changed the UI, tweaked confidence, and added combine numbers then called it a day for CFM improvement.

            Quick question: I don't really have time to sit down and listen to the podcast, but for anyone that has listened to it, is there anything else mentioned that we have not heard about already?
            Last edited by splff3000; 06-10-2015, 11:43 AM.
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            • jpdavis82
              All Star
              • Sep 2005
              • 8790

              #7
              Re: Madden 16 CFM: Still no Draft Board

              Originally posted by splff3000
              This is amazing to me. Outside of having the combine, a customizable draft board was probably the single most thing requested for CFM drafts. I'd say that, and editing draft classes, were probably neck and neck. The more I hear about the cfm "additions", the more disappointed I get. It's really looking more and more like EA just changed the UI, tweaked confidence, and added combine numbers then called it a day for CFM improvement.

              Quick question: I don't really have time to sit down and listen to the podcast, but for anyone that has listened to it, is there anything else mentioned that we have not heard about already?
              I don't think there was, yes I'm disappointed overall in CFM this year but don't lose hope because there's some good stuff coming from Kolbe & John. I think they kind of inherited a lot of what Josh had in mind already for the mode for M16 and took over mid cycle from him, and like Kolbe said in his podcast, he didn't get in everything he wanted. I'm hoping you guys like what they're doing in gameplay and presentation this year, we should have a lot better grasp on things next week.

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              • no1xdraftpck
                Rookie
                • Jun 2015
                • 40

                #8
                Re: Madden 16 CFM: Still no Draft Board

                I'm at work so I cant listen, does anyone mind listing specific changes or additions/subtractions?

                The fact they still don't have a draft board feature is ridiculous. Everything the OP mentioned was dead on. I participate in a 32 man league and its impossible to get all 32 players on at the same time. So a draft board would really help those who cant attend, hell it can help those that aren't very serious about drafting.

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                • brza37
                  Pro
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 748

                  #9
                  Re: Madden 16 CFM: Still no Draft Board

                  Originally posted by splff3000
                  This is amazing to me. Outside of having the combine, a customizable draft board was probably the single most thing requested for CFM scouting and drafting. The more I hear about the cfm "additions", the more disappointed I get. It's really looking more and more like EA just changed the UI, tweaked confidence, and added combine numbers then called it a day for CFM improvement.

                  Quick question: I don't really have time to sit down and listen to the podcast, but for anyone that has listened to it, is there anything else mentioned that we have not heard about already?
                  Unfortunately, I only gathered three new bits of info from the podcast:
                  1. Custom draft boards aren't in Madden 16
                  2. You will lose scouting points if you don't scout each week
                  3. Shop was able to fully scout about 85% of the draft class (but thats an issue that could be tuned based on SP payouts and costs)

                  Also, it was kind of already implied in the blog but I was hoping I didn't understand the top 3 ratings thing before. Shop confirmed that you can reveal the top 3 ratings per prospect so it might be difficult to directly compare players in certain ratings.
                  For example, you may get a WR with A SPD, B CTH and B CIT but get another WR with A SPD, B SPC and B RTE. So its near impossible to compare them because one may also have B's or C's in other categories while the other has D's. That is a big problem in my eyes and a design decision I also can't understand.

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                  • brza37
                    Pro
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 748

                    #10
                    Re: Madden 16 CFM: Still no Draft Board

                    Originally posted by jpdavis82
                    I don't think there was, yes I'm disappointed overall in CFM this year but don't lose hope because there's some good stuff coming from Kolbe & John. I think they kind of inherited a lot of what Josh had in mind already for the mode for M16 and took over mid cycle from him, and like Kolbe said in his podcast, he didn't get in everything he wanted. I'm hoping you guys like what they're doing in gameplay and presentation this year, we should have a lot better grasp on things next week.
                    I'm not sure if you can answer this but in your time at EA were you able to get a sense of what held back CFM while Josh was lead? The reason I ask is because Josh was lead on Head Coach, a game that I loved and one that had a lot of features people want in CFM. It seemed like it would have been natural for features from HC to get implemented into CFM while he was lead on it however there are still a lot of things left out.

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                    • jpdavis82
                      All Star
                      • Sep 2005
                      • 8790

                      #11
                      Re: Madden 16 CFM: Still no Draft Board

                      Originally posted by brza37
                      Unfortunately, I only gathered three new bits of info from the podcast:
                      1. Custom draft boards aren't in Madden 16
                      2. You will lose scouting points if you don't scout each week
                      3. Shop was able to fully scout about 85% of the draft class (but thats an issue that could be tuned based on SP payouts and costs)

                      Also, it was kind of already implied in the blog but I was hoping I didn't understand the top 3 ratings thing before. Shop confirmed that you can reveal the top 3 ratings per prospect so it might be difficult to directly compare players in certain ratings.
                      For example, you may get a WR with A SPD, B CTH and B CIT but get another WR with A SPD, B SPC and B RTE. So its near impossible to compare them because one may also have B's or C's in other categories while the other has D's. That is a big problem in my eyes and a design decision I also can't understand.
                      That's why the combine results are so important, it tells you where each WR ranks in each drill. So if you don't know your WR's speed rating, it will show you their time and position rank. It's a little bit of a gamble, but they're not leaving you in the dark. Personally I don't want to know every single rating or attribute of a prospect, there's always a risk to taking players and that's what they're trying to recapture here.

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                      • K_GUN
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                        • Jul 2002
                        • 3891

                        #12
                        Re: Madden 16 CFM: Still no Draft Board

                        Originally posted by jpdavis82
                        I don't think there was, yes I'm disappointed overall in CFM this year but don't lose hope because there's some good stuff coming from Kolbe & John. I think they kind of inherited a lot of what Josh had in mind already for the mode for M16 and took over mid cycle from him, and like Kolbe said in his podcast, he didn't get in everything he wanted. I'm hoping you guys like what they're doing in gameplay and presentation this year, we should have a lot better grasp on things next week.

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                        • splff3000
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                          • Jun 2003
                          • 2867

                          #13
                          Re: Madden 16 CFM: Still no Draft Board

                          Originally posted by jpdavis82
                          That's why the combine results are so important, it tells you where each WR ranks in each drill. So if you don't know your WR's speed rating, it will show you their time and position rank. It's a little bit of a gamble, but they're not leaving you in the dark. Personally I don't want to know every single rating or attribute of a prospect, there's always a risk to taking players and that's what they're trying to recapture here.
                          There's also an art to it. There's a reason some teams draft better than other teams continuously. It's not because they're lucky. I don't want to know every rating for every player, but I do want to know the ratings that I find important. Personally, I don't care about a WR's SPC rating if his overall catch rating is low. That's what I'm gonna look for first. IMO, this aspect of scouting has actually taken a step back from last year. Now I have no control over what I scout on a player.

                          Back to the draft board topic tho, the 3rd round of scouting is supposed to unlock where a prospect actually should be drafted. Why does EA feel the need to tell us where players should be drafted? Why not list the prospects by position, give us a draft board, and let us decide for ourselves where a player should be drafted? That's how the real draft works. No one follows the EA prospects ranking anyway in online CFM, so just let us rank them ourselves. If EA wants to have input, they can have a couple of mock drafts from Mel Kiper and Todd McShay if they like, but let us set up our own draft board the way we like. First things first tho, Let's get those draft boards in the game.
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                          • BleedGreen710
                            Eagles Fan
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 4025

                            #14
                            Re: Madden 16 CFM: Still no Draft Board

                            are the draft classes preset like before with the same draft classes for everyone or are they randomly generated each year?

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                            • jpdavis82
                              All Star
                              • Sep 2005
                              • 8790

                              #15
                              Re: Madden 16 CFM: Still no Draft Board

                              Originally posted by BleedGreen710
                              are the draft classes preset like before with the same draft classes for everyone or are they randomly generated each year?
                              I don't believe any thing changed there so they should still be random like last year.

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