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  • aholbert32
    (aka Alberto)
    • Jul 2002
    • 33106

    #61
    Re: Madden NFL 16 Blog - Penalties and AI Improvements

    Originally posted by Big FN Deal
    Offsetting does though whether you realize it or not and potentially even more so with these other, thankfully, added/fixed ones. If I'm not mistaken, along with offsetting, simultaneous penalties aren't possible, so even playing the CPU, any one penalty, would prevent another. That's unfortunate if say you draw on offsides on the CPU and then smartly decide to take a shot deep, if your intended receiver gets mauled, circa the new wr/db interactions, there cant be a DPI call and any number of other similar scenarios.

    The point being offsetting and multiple penalties are integral parts of the penalty system being complete, them missing diminishes that aspect.
    FYI, my posts werent about offsetting penalties. It was about chop blocks and illegal man downfield not being added to the game. My comment in that post about offsetting penalties was just to inform GiantBlue that they werent in the game.

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    • charter04
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      • May 2010
      • 5740

      #62
      Re: Madden NFL 16: Penalties Are Finally Going to Be a Thing

      Not sure if it's ok to be happy about something Madden related or not. but, I'm glad they finally did something with penalties. Hopefully this is just the start. Also glad the penalty sliders work now. If the info is true.

      I hope that also means all sliders work.
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      • SmashMan
        All Star
        • Dec 2004
        • 9797

        #63
        Re: Madden NFL 16: Penalties Are Finally Going to Be a Thing

        Originally posted by roadman
        I will give them props if they work as advertised.
        Exactly. They obviously don't have a great track record of things working as advertised, so I'm hoping to see a higher percentage of penalties in the E3 videos - moreso to prove that they're in and work in the right situations, and then we can hopefully adjust to realistic with sliders from there.

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        • mestevo
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          • Apr 2010
          • 19556

          #64
          Re: Madden NFL 16 Blog - Penalties and AI Improvements

          Originally posted by Big FN Deal
          Offsetting does though whether you realize it or not and potentially even more so with these other, thankfully, added/fixed ones. If I'm not mistaken, along with offsetting, simultaneous penalties aren't possible, so even playing the CPU, any one penalty, would prevent another. That's unfortunate if say you draw on offsides on the CPU and then smartly decide to take a shot deep, if your intended receiver gets mauled, circa the new wr/db interactions, there cant be a DPI call and any number of other similar scenarios.

          The point being offsetting and multiple penalties are integral parts of the penalty system being complete, them missing diminishes that aspect.
          Offsetting penalties happen ~5 times per year per team, as of 2014. That's with the uptick in certain penalties being called, it was less than 1 per team in 2013.

          Diminish the system, sure, I guess. But they won't be missed for the most part.

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          • SageInfinite
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            • Jul 2002
            • 11896

            #65
            Re: Madden NFL 16 Blog - Penalties and AI Improvements

            Originally posted by aholbert32
            Yeah lets just ignore the angry posts I've made about CCM and EA's refusal to add features like Formation Subs. When you do that its easier to paint it as if I love Madden no matter what. LOL. Too bad my actual posts dont back up your argument.

            Keep pushing that agenda though.
            I'm pushing an agenda? LOL. Yall kill me with that bull****. My posts don't back up that bogus claim either. I just know how things have turned out for Tiburon and this series, I'm just stating my opinion. I've been posting here a long time and have always been a straight shooter.

            I hope the penalties work, but it would've been nice if they addressed EVERY aspect of penalties, AND they worked. We have yet to see that, that's the only reason why celebrating it hit me like that. They have a pattern of doing this. They address something, and it's half done, or it doesn't work properly.
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            • aholbert32
              (aka Alberto)
              • Jul 2002
              • 33106

              #66
              Re: Madden NFL 16: Penalties Are Finally Going to Be a Thing

              Originally posted by SmashMan
              Exactly. They obviously don't have a great track record of things working as advertised, so I'm hoping to see a higher percentage of penalties in the E3 videos - moreso to prove that they're in and work in the right situations, and then we can hopefully adjust to realistic with sliders from there.
              Especially if what they say is true about penalties being called at the league average on default. If we dont see many called, we will know its not working the way it should.

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              • roadman
                *ll St*r
                • Aug 2003
                • 26339

                #67
                Re: Madden NFL 16: Penalties Are Finally Going to Be a Thing

                Originally posted by SmashMan
                Exactly. They obviously don't have a great track record of things working as advertised, so I'm hoping to see a higher percentage of penalties in the E3 videos - moreso to prove that they're in and work in the right situations, and then we can hopefully adjust to realistic with sliders from there.
                I think I saw DueceDouglas post awhile ago that what most people don't realize is that there is an avg of only 6 penalties called per game in the NFL.

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                • aholbert32
                  (aka Alberto)
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 33106

                  #68
                  Re: Madden NFL 16: Penalties Are Finally Going to Be a Thing

                  Originally posted by roadman
                  I think I saw DueceDouglas post awhile ago that what most people don't realize is that there is an avg of only 6 penalties called per game in the NFL.
                  I dont know why that seems low but it does. I'm sure the stats dont lie though.

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                  • roadman
                    *ll St*r
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 26339

                    #69
                    Re: Madden NFL 16 Blog - Penalties and AI Improvements

                    Originally posted by SageInfinite
                    I'm pushing an agenda? LOL. Yall kill me with that bull****. My posts don't back up that bogus claim either. I just know how things have turned out for Tiburon and this series, I'm just stating my opinion. I've been posting here a long time and have always been a straight shooter.

                    I hope the penalties work, but it would've been nice if they addressed EVERY aspect of penalties, AND they worked. We have yet to see that, that's the only reason why celebrating it hit me like that. They have a pattern of doing this. They address something, and it's half done, or it doesn't work properly.
                    I get that, but I think it's appropriate, at least on my end from all the pounding I've done over the years, to let out a little sigh of relief.

                    A bigger sigh if they work as advertised.

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                    • MajorSupreme
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2013
                      • 1559

                      #70
                      Re: Madden NFL 16: Penalties Are Finally Going to Be a Thing

                      Originally posted by aholbert32
                      I dont know why that seems low but it does. I'm sure the stats dont lie though.
                      I think that's about right, of all the Pats games I saw this year and last, about 4-5 penalties. Browner averaged at least 2 a game, and then at least usually one holding call.

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                      • roadman
                        *ll St*r
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 26339

                        #71
                        Re: Madden NFL 16: Penalties Are Finally Going to Be a Thing

                        Originally posted by aholbert32
                        I dont know why that seems low but it does. I'm sure the stats dont lie though.
                        Trust me, I thought it was too.

                        Oops, you are right, I bet Duece meant per team per game.

                        How many penalties are called in an average NFL game?

                        In an average NFL football game, the officials will call around 12-13 total penalties per game. During the 2013 NFL season, the average game say 12.25 penalties called.



                        Sorry folks.

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                        • Skyboxer
                          Donny Baseball!
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 20302

                          #72
                          Re: Madden NFL 16: Penalties Are Finally Going to Be a Thing

                          Originally posted by roadman
                          I think I saw DueceDouglas post awhile ago that what most people don't realize is that there is an avg of only 6 penalties called per game in the NFL.
                          Originally posted by aholbert32
                          I dont know why that seems low but it does. I'm sure the stats dont lie though.
                          Looking at the NFL stats it's 6.6 a game.
                          Did sound low but guess not.
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                          • roadman
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                            • Aug 2003
                            • 26339

                            #73
                            Re: Madden NFL 16: Penalties Are Finally Going to Be a Thing

                            Originally posted by Skyboxer
                            Looking at the NFL stats it's 6.6 a game.
                            Did sound low but guess not.
                            Holy cow, that link I just provided said 12-13.

                            In my best Lombardi impersonation, what the hell is going on out there?

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                            • Skyboxer
                              Donny Baseball!
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 20302

                              #74
                              Re: Madden NFL 16: Penalties Are Finally Going to Be a Thing

                              Originally posted by roadman
                              Trust me, I thought it was too.

                              Oops, you are right, I bet Duece meant per team per game.

                              How many penalties are called in an average NFL game?

                              In an average NFL football game, the officials will call around 12-13 total penalties per game. During the 2013 NFL season, the average game say 12.25 penalties called.



                              Sorry folks.
                              From what I see it's 6.6 combined.. Unless I'm looking wrong
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                              • mestevo
                                Gooney Goo Goo
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 19556

                                #75
                                Re: Madden NFL 16: Penalties Are Finally Going to Be a Thing

                                Sounds low because of the variance, Seattle averaging 9.5/game, Miami just 2.

                                Get the Seahawks v Denver though and their averages combined are 17.5 in a game.

                                via figures at http://www.nflpenalties.com/index.php?&year=2014

                                2014 saw 300 more penalties than 2013 also. (3526 vs 3245) so figures creeped up a touch.

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