Madden NFL 16 Implements a Draft Board, More Like a Watch List

[howboutdat]

Re: Madden NFL 16 Implements a Draft Board, More Like a Watch List

This assuming all 7 teams scout the same players, personally I look for a certain size at MLB (more for creating realism than anything else). We also have to wonder if schemes will have any affect on scouting. If they do my top 3 and your top 3 could be completely different based on our schemes. Also remember this year drafting is done weekly or you lose points. 7 teams could decide they need a MLB at the beginning of the year and scout the top 3 guys and then in free agency 5 of them fill the need. Now those teams spent a lot of points on a position they probably won't draft and you can now try to draft that MLB stud later on. If they tune the points correctly this new system could work out better than anyone is imagining. It could be a risk/reward system that everyone wants, where you need to spend your points wisely and plan your team strategy out from day 1 or you will suffer.

While i get what your saying here. I still can't see it working out like this that well. Yes , because you have to scout thruout the year, maybe that would happen with what you mentioned about FA. However, i still see it working about like i said. Why? Because in madden 15 , we had enough points(less than we may get in madden 16) , you could scout at least a few attributes on almost all the players and about half in depth , for numerous positions you felt you had need at. So if I needed a CB,WR,MLB,DT,and HB as my main needs, i could scout most all of them at least 2 -3 attributes deep ,and about half of them more like 5 -7 attributes deep. So if people are needing a position , they arent just going to scout 4 or 5 of them. They will look over most of them. That just how most guys do it .

Now about the FA thing. First season or two in a league, what your saying may happen. However, one thing i know about guys in leagues, when they see something they do ,that causes them to get burned, they will adjust . If they start out scouting MLBs and end up getting one in FA, then realize they dont have enough points after FA to really scout much at another position then end up with a few busted picks due to that, Next season around, they will adjust. They will either not pick up FA in Bidding time for positions they scouted for a real need(why? because we all know rookies are cheaper than high overall older players in bidding), or they will pick up a player from FA if he is that good and they will still draft someone at that position that they liked from scouting. Reason ? Because most positions you can use more than one of . MLB, put the rookie in at ROLB,LOLB,DE. CBs ,WRs,HBs,O and D line, who cant use more good ones of these? Guys would still do this ,because they realize they cant go in and scout in depth other things after FA bidding, and plan to use one of the guys they get as a trade chip if they dont use them during season. Either way, after a few seasons at best, they will figure out how to work this system and you will not find as many guys falling into later rounds like we did in 15.

[jpdavis82]

Re: Madden NFL 16 Implements a Draft Board, More Like a Watch List

It all comes down to how well they tune it and if schemes affect scouting attributes unlocked. If they make it so you can scout 85% of the draft class or whatever was reported then it will all be a moot point but if the tune it so you only have enough points to scout 50% of the draft class then this new scouting system will be a lot more complex then people think.

Didn't Kolbe say they lowered the amount of scouting points recently. The thing I love is that you lose points for not scouting. Also scouting doesn't start til week 3, so that makes it harder too.

[howboutdat]

Re: Madden NFL 16 Implements a Draft Board, More Like a Watch List

Didn't Kolbe say they lowered the amount of scouting points recently. The thing I love is that you lose points for not scouting. Also scouting doesn't start til week 3, so that makes it harder too.

i dont believe he said they already have, but said they still have time to tune that.So i believe it will get lowered some, but we will have to see how much . Still would like the ability to scout what i personally like in my players, not what im force feed to look at and nothing else. Everyone likes different styles of players. Kind of the point of building your own team really. Just taking away our control of what we can and cant scout , not a good look to me personally.

[jpdavis82]

Re: Madden NFL 16 Implements a Draft Board, More Like a Watch List

i dont believe he said they already have, but said they still have time to tune that.So i believe it will get lowered some, but we will have to see how much . Still would like the ability to scout what i personally like in my players, not what im force feed to look at and nothing else. Everyone likes different styles of players. Kind of the point of building your own team really. Just taking away our control of what we can and cant scout , not a good look to me personally.

Yeah I'd like to be able to choose which 3 attributes I get to see.

[howboutdat]

Re: Madden NFL 16 Implements a Draft Board, More Like a Watch List

Yeah I'd like to be able to choose which 3 attributes I get to see.

Just allowing that , would make me feel alittle better about the situation, as it would then start to create alittle more chance of players falling thru.The forcing of everyone to see same 3, just is limiting that chance too much i feel .

[Skyboxer]

Re: Madden NFL 16 Implements a Draft Board, More Like a Watch List

Yeah I'd like to be able to choose which 3 attributes I get to see.

Scouting etc.. in real life , for the most part, is a crap shoot....

So make it fun and have a dice roll that unlocks 4 random attributes.
Lots better than everyone seeing the same 3.

[howboutdat]

Re: Madden NFL 16 Implements a Draft Board, More Like a Watch List

Scouting etc.. in real life , for the most part, is a crap shoot....

So make it fun and have a dice roll that unlocks 4 random attributes.
Lots better than everyone seeing the same 3.

totally agree.That would be a ton better than forced 3 best attributes.More randomness it gives, the more fun it makes the draft, as it gives more opportunity for finding gems later on , like in real life.

[jpdavis82]

Re: Madden NFL 16 Implements a Draft Board, More Like a Watch List

Scouting etc.. in real life , for the most part, is a crap shoot....

So make it fun and have a dice roll that unlocks 4 random attributes.
Lots better than everyone seeing the same 3.

It would have to be limited to a certain set based on the position. Otherwise, what if the 3 you got for a QB were agility, jumping, and toughness or something like that?

[patsfan1993]

Re: Madden NFL 16 Implements a Draft Board, More Like a Watch List

They should tie the revealed attributes that can be revealed based to your scheme and preferred player type. Two for scheme specific skill and two different attributes for player type.

A west coast scheme with the a mobile QB gets different attributes revealed than a vertical scheme with a strong arm.

If I can't choose the attributes to reveal this would be my preferred scouting method. Tie things together so they matter.

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[Skyboxer]

Re: Madden NFL 16 Implements a Draft Board, More Like a Watch List

It would have to be limited to a certain set based on the position. Otherwise, what if the 3 you got for a QB were agility, jumping, and toughness or something like that?

Then so be it... I'm one that can live with the bad as well as the good luck.....
So I'd know I have a tough QB that can move a bit.
Do I chance him early or not?
Can just pretend (everything we are doing is in a fantasy world anyways) he sat out last year of College due to injury.

I do agree that certain attributes should not happen based on position. Basically any attribute that does not have an impact on the players position, should be eliminated from a possible reveal. (Spin move for a C..)

Basically saying I'm fine with it being totally random regardless of what info it gives me.

Might be my age etc... but I really think we've gotten to the point where everything is turned way over complicated and over thought in more ways than 1.

[cowboy_kmoney]

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Well we only know what we hear and read into. So ima wait like we all have to til the game drops and we all will have our impressions of this new way of scouting. This way based on what its doing to the game we can put it in the Impressions thread and sent to EA and hopes if them making how we want it..

[Sheba2011]

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Then so be it... I'm one that can live with the bad as well as the good luck.....
So I'd know I have a tough QB that can move a bit.
Do I chance him early or not?
Can just pretend (everything we are doing is in a fantasy world anyways) he sat out last year of College due to injury.

I do agree that certain attributes should not happen based on position. Basically any attribute that does not have an impact on the players position, should be eliminated from a possible reveal. (Spin move for a C..)

Basically saying I'm fine with it being totally random regardless of what info it gives me.

Might be my age etc... but I really think we've gotten to the point where everything is turned way over complicated and over thought in more ways than 1.

Personally I wish this whole scouting attributes would completely disappear and instead we would get a chance to buy scouting reports, the more points you spend on one the more information it contains. But it would use sentences like "great hands, slow off the line, plays quicker than his speed". Nothing that would be revealing to what his real ratings are but enough that you get a general idea for what the player could be and have to decide if he is worth the pick in that round. But have a system where it's not always accurate. Maybe even include a system like NHL or NBA 2K uses where you can play some games with them before the draft like the Senior Bowl and actual combine events or workouts. This would create so much realism and give you a real risk/reward system for drafting.

[2_headedmonster]

Re: Madden NFL 16 Implements a Draft Board, More Like a Watch List

Ok. Out of the box it will simply be a list. Not ideal but its framework. By the second patch would it be possible to have it fleshed out to numbering and automated picking if available.

[jpdavis82]

Re: Madden NFL 16 Implements a Draft Board, More Like a Watch List

Ok. Out of the box it will simply be a list. Not ideal but its framework. By the second patch would it be possible to have it fleshed out to numbering and automated picking if available.

I don't know if that's something they could just patch, I think it takes quite a bit of work to build that logic for it and most importantly, get it functioning well CONSISTENTLY.

[N51_rob]

Re: Madden NFL 16 Implements a Draft Board, More Like a Watch List

Ok. Out of the box it will simply be a list. Not ideal but its framework. By the second patch would it be possible to have it fleshed out to numbering and automated picking if available.

I think this line of thought will set you up for disapointment. First, they will inevitably have to patch game play issues and then see if that patch really screws things up or if there is something that they have to keep working on past patch 1 to fix. Secondly, a fully functional draft board would be a MAJOR CFM feature. Why waste the excitement and impact of that on a patch? That kind of feature is something you announce for Madden 17 not as a patch for Madden 16.