More Madden NFL 16 Gameplay Videos

[SolidSquid]

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So watching these videos looking for gang tackles since people were syaing they were in the game when i said i didn tsee any.

Watched the pats game and the browns game and those vids did have some instances of gang tackling, but from what i am seeing, they are canned animations and does not impact the play at all.

Still, i see defenders releasing before another defender hitting instead of holding on while the other cleans it up. I saw an instance in the pats game where the runner had a defender on him and another coming in to "clean" up and just rubbed off on him and fell to the ground like how it is now. It was like 8:20 in the video.

Doesnt seem the gang tackling impacts anything once the first defender touches the defender and the only way the 2nd defender impacts the play is if the 1st defender lets go creating a pin ball effect.

I've read people saying the gang tackling looks good and all that, but to me, correct if i am wrong or seeing something totally off, these animations are canned and doesnt look like it impacts the play at all.

I guess technically, they did get gang tackling in the game.

While I agree with some of what you're saying you have to admit they improved tackling a bit. I haven't seen any uninterruptible force field rolls by ball carriers and extra defenders actually attempt to hit the pile instead of just tripping over it. It's an improvement but they still have a ways to go .

[jpdavis82]

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While I agree with some of what you're saying you have to admit they improved tackling a bit. I haven't seen any uninterruptible force field rolls by ball carriers and extra defenders actually attempt to hit the pile instead of just tripping over it. It's an improvement but they still have a ways to go .

I'll be interested to see what you guys think once you've played the game a while. There's a lot left to be desired with these videos compared to what I have seen in person.

[dkp23]

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True gang tackling is in the game, I think it was the chiefs giants video that showed a pretty good example at the beginning of the video. Like Shop and Madscientist, Sim, Smitty, Azure, and myself all said tonight on the GC radio show, watching these videos does not do the game justice and you won't see everything in these short Youtube clips, have to play hours to see things. I played 35 hours and was still seeing new stuff in the last hour I played.

Gang tackling is in the game, i can see that now, whether it is true or not, is the issue. True to me are defenders converging on the ball carrier and each one can impact the play meaning one guy could be dragged as teh ball carrier keeps going then somebody from the side puts on a hit from the side and the ball carrier goes sideways. Or a baller carrier going straight up into two defenders adn teh defenders drive the ball carrier back, happens all the time in the NFL.

in these videos this is what i am seeing, the first one was very early in the pats/chiefs game where the baller carrier got hit by the 1st defender and three other defeners i think just jumped on and went for the ride, the other defenders had no impact on the play as the guy just kept going in the same direction. It looked canned.

Another example was the ball carrier made contact with first defender and was moving forward, the 2nd defender should of cleaned it up and drove the ball carrier back, but instead latched on and the baller carrier just fell forward not even grinding the legs for more yardage.

Is gang tackling in this game? Yes i can see that, all is needed is to have multiple defenders latch on via animation and its gang tackling. Does the gang tackling impact the play? Doesn't look like it so far if it does, it isn't obvious and is that true gang tackling?

So did EA explain the gang tackling mechanics? Is it organic because it doesn't look like it is, it is more canned. My guess is, a big chunk of gang tackling is canned animation. It has been long time with some instances of gang tackling in a madden game, so i get they are just starting on it, but gang tackling had been in football games since 2005 (the other game) while madden finally had some sort of gang tackling i think in 2011 or so then removed.

You guys played it, i didnt, i am only making an opinion based on video. Without any developer or technical background, but a major portion of the gang tackling in this game are canned animations from what i am seeing.

[dkp23]

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While I agree with some of what you're saying you have to admit they improved tackling a bit. I haven't seen any uninterruptible force field rolls by ball carriers and extra defenders actually attempt to hit the pile instead of just tripping over it. It's an improvement but they still have a ways to go .

Improved or not, gang tackling is more canned than anything from what i am seeing. The tackling system previously had no gang tackling, so adding any type of gang tackling would be considered an "improvement". Instead of defenders converging and impacting the play, i still see defenders release so another defender can go into animation.

The other game 10 years ago when i first played and i was impressed with gang tackling, we are in 2015 now, gang tackling is way off from where it needs to be and when will that change? Perhaps they could focus on gameplay more rather than create MUT 2.0. Dont get me started on communities either.

[roadman]

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Improved or not, gang tackling is more canned than anything from what i am seeing. The tackling system previously had no gang tackling, so adding any type of gang tackling would be considered an "improvement". Instead of defenders converging and impacting the play, i still see defenders release so another defender can go into animation.

The other game 10 years ago when i first played and i was impressed with gang tackling, we are in 2015 now, gang tackling is way off from where it needs to be and when will that change? Perhaps they could focus on gameplay more rather than create MUT 2.0. Dont get me started on communities either.

MUT wasn't touched at all this year, so, not sure where that is coming from.

[dkp23]

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MUT wasn't touched at all this year, so, not sure where that is coming from.

draft champs, couldn't EA allow card drafting in MUT instead of creating a whole new mode?

Similar to hearthstone arena?

[roadman]

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draft champs, couldn't EA allow card drafting in MUT instead of creating a whole new mode?

Similar to hearthstone arena?

Heck, I might even try draft champs, if it's interesting.

So, back to your gang tackling. I'm not sure if you saw Sim interview Rex, but he explains it very well in the video below. Start it at about the 1:12 time and go to about 4:50. It's organic and precanned combined.

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[ShaiLeGran]

I'll be interested to see what you guys think once you've played the game a while. There's a lot left to be desired with these videos compared to what I have seen in person.

jpdavis82, based on what you have seen and played, how do you feel about Madden 16 at this point? Gameplay-wise, presentation, etcetera? And what are your dislikes about the game so far? Did you see any rain/snow improvements also? Thanks!

[jpdavis82]

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jpdavis82, based on what you have seen and played, how do you feel about Madden 16 at this point? Gameplay-wise, presentation, etcetera? And what are your dislikes about the game so far? Did you see any rain/snow improvements also? Thanks!

I'll be as happy as you guys, if not more, when they reveal more about presentation lol. Unfortunately I can't talk about it until then and I've gotten a lot of questions about presentation. As far as gameplay, there's a lot of info out there, but the E3 videos for the most part are telling a incomplete story about M16 gameplay. I haven't seen hardly any of the cool DB and S stuff in these videos like I did when I played. The Haden play is the only real example I can think of, but there's a lot of neat things the DB will do in 16. The E3 videos are showing almost exclusively the offensive side of the game but the defense has a lot going for it too. The latest video from Tico in my video thread is the closest thing I've seen to when I played, more balance and more defensive stops. My first game in CFM was 27-10 and I lost on all pro, I threw 7 INTs, mostly because I was trying to test the high point catches and so that should tell you guys you can't just high point all game.

[ShaiLeGran]

When you say "as happy as you guys" you mean you are not aloud to talk about it, or because you havent seen any real improvements yet? I asked Clint on Twitter if there is another Twitch reveal like last year, so lets wait and see what he says. Thanks for the comments, we all appreciate it.

[dkp23]

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Heck, I might even try draft champs, if it's interesting.

So, back to your gang tackling. I'm not sure if you saw Sim interview Rex, but he explains it very well in the video below. Start it at about the 1:12 time and go to about 4:50. It's organic and precanned combined.

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Well, that explains it...When gang tackling happens, it is canned. From what i see in the vids the most amount of defenders that can impact a play is probably two which is hardly noticeable in the videos. Even with that, the 1st defender will release at times before the 2nd has an impacting animation instead of a combined effort. Any more defenders will have them latch on for the ride, but wont change the result of the 1st or maybe 2nd defender.

We'll see more when we actually get to play, but i dont see this being a tackling system that is true gang tackling right now. It is only gang tackling because the canned animation has more than two "making a play" when it really doesnt impact the result.

[jpdavis82]

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Well, that explains it...When gang tackling happens, it is canned. From what i see in the vids the most amount of defenders that can impact a play is probably two which is hardly noticeable in the videos. Even with that, the 1st defender will release at times before the 2nd has an impacting animation instead of a combined effort. Any more defenders will have them latch on for the ride, but wont change the result of the 1st or maybe 2nd defender.

We'll see more when we actually get to play, but i dont see this being a tackling system that is true gang tackling right now. It is only gang tackling because the canned animation has more than two "making a play" when it really doesnt impact the result.

The first play of this video contradicts what you just said and from someone who has actually played the game, you're wrong.

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[dkp23]

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The first play of this video contradicts what you just said and from someone who has actually played the game, you're wrong.

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He fell forward with a defender from behind and one in front who should of been able to stand him up and push him back while a third defender latched on for the ride and has no impact.

If that is an example of "true gang tackling" in this game, we shouldn't expect much.

[jpdavis82]

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He fell forward with a defender from behind and one in front who should of been able to stand him up and push him back while a third defender latched on for the ride and has no impact.

If that is an example of "true gang tackling" in this game, we shouldn't expect much.

Have a nice day, let me know what you think of the gang tackling once you have actually PLAYED the game. I'm done arguing with ignorance.

Here's another good example at 3:08, the first two defenders latch on and the 3rd, 4th, defenders jump on him and take him down. Turn on nfl network if you don't think that happens irl.

http://youtu.be/Telv9dcgvpU

[kehlis]

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Have a nice day, let me know what you think of the gang tackling once you have actually PLAYED the game. I'm done arguing with ignorance.

Here's another good example at 3:08, the first two defenders latch on and the 3rd, 4th, defenders jump on him and take him down. Turn on nfl network if you don't think that happens irl.

http://youtu.be/Telv9dcgvpU

JP. You've been banned in the past for posts like this.

You need to either tone it down a bit or take a break at the keyboard.