Metallicarl's All Time Basketball Dream Season

[metallicarl]

OK, finally have this file done!!!! I have attached the file, I am not sure of all the steps to transfer this to your PC....I have only done it with NCAA football. Please do not ask me the steps, there are threads in this forum on how to do it. Please feel free to give me feedback..since there are so many teams, some are researched more than others. If you are a fan of one of the schools you may know more about how each player looked and played. Post any edits for gear, appearance, and ratings. I did a ton of research on stats, gear, and appearance but some of the smaller or older schools dont have many photos. If you feel a players ratings are off, give me detailed changes( dont just say a players overall is high/low, say his ball handling or defensive rating is off) Hope everyone enjoys this as much as I am!!!

[metallicarl]

Re: Metallicarl's All Time Basketball Dream Season

As of now, I have around 100 teams rated and have been playing a game every day to see how they are playing out. I have been really impressed and it is so cool to see the teams of my youth brought back to life. I will attempt to update a list of teams that will be included.

ACC
1983 NC State (Bailey, Lowe, Charles, Whittenburg)
1982 UNC (Worthy, Jordan, Perkins)
1992 Duke (Laettner, Grant Hill, Hurley)
1997 Wake Forest (Duncan, Childress)
1985 Virginia Tech ( G Dell Curry, SF Perry Young))
1993 Florida State (Edwards, Sura, Cassell, Charlie Ward)
1983 Boston College (PG Michael Adams, C John Garris, F Jay Murphy)
1990 Clemson (Elden Campbell, Dale Davis)
1990 Georgia Tech (K. Anderson, D. Scott, Oliver, Mackey)
2002 Maryland (Juan Dixon, PG Steve Blake, C Lonnie Baxter)
2002 Miami (PF Jame Jones, SF Darius Rice, SG John Salmons)
1981 Virginia (Ralph Sampson, J. Lamp, L. Raker)

BIG TEN
1976 Indiana (Scott May, Kent Benson, Quinn Buckner)
1997 Minnesota(PG Bobby Jackson)
1989 Illinois (SF Nick Anderson, SG Kendall Gill, PF Kenny Battle)
1987 Iowa (PG B.J. Armstrong, SF Roy Marble, C Brad Lohaus, G Kenny Gamble)
1979 Michigan State (Magic Johnson, Greg Kelser, Jay Vincent)
1993 Michigan (Howard, Webber, Jackson, Rose, King)
1983 Northwestern (PF Jim Stack)
2007 Ohio State (C Greg Oden, PG Mike Conley)
2001 Penn State (PG Joe Crispin, SF Titus Ivory)
1988 Purdue (SG Troy Lewis, PF Todd Mitchell,PG Everette Stephens)
2007 Wisconsin (SG Alondo Tucker, C Brian Butch, PF Marcus Landry)


BIG EAST
1984 Georgetown (C Pat Ewing, F Regge Williams, F David Wingate)
1982 Villanova (C Ed Pinckney, F Harold Pressley, G Gary McLain, F Dwayne McClain)
1985 St. Johns (Chris Mullin, Mark Jackson, Walter Berry, Wennington)
1981 DePaul ( F Mark Aguirre,C/F Terry Cummings)
1976 Rutgers (PF Phil Sellers, G Eddie Jordan, C James Bailey)
1992 Cincinnati (PG Van Exel, C Corie Blount, SF Herb Jones)
2004 Connecticut (Ben Gordon, Emeka Okafor, Charlie Villanueva)
1980 Louisville (G Darrell Griffith, F Derek Smith, C Rodney McCray)
1977 Marquette (Butch Lee, Bo Ellis, Jerome Whitehead)
1979 Notre Dame (Kelly Tripuka, Orlando Woolridge, Bill Laimbeer)
1988 Pittsburgh (PF Jerome Lane, C Charles Smith, PG Sean Miller)
1973 Providence ( C Marvin Barnes,PG Ernie DiGregorio)
1989 Seton Hall (SF Andrew Gaze, SG John Morton, PF Darrell Walker)
1983 USF ( SF Charles Bradley, C Jim Grandholm)
1987 Syracuse (PF Derrick Coleman, PG Sherm Douglas, C Rony Seikaly)
2005 West Virginia (SF Tyrone Sally, C/F Kevin Pittsnogle)

WAC
1988 Boise (G Chris Childs, PF Arnell Jones)
2004 Nevada (C Nick Fazekas,G Kirk Snyder)
1982 Idaho (SG Kenny Owen, SF Phil Hopson)
1982 Fresno (F/G Rod Higgins, PF Bernard Thompson))
2002 Hawaii (G Carl English)
1985 La. Tech (F/C Karl Malone, PF Willie Simmons))
1970 New Mex. St. (SG Jimmy Collins, C Sam Lacey, PG Charlie Criss)
1969 San Jose (C Coby Dietrich, F Darnell Hillman)
2009 Utah St. (PF Gary Wilkinson)

HORIZON
1985 Loyola Chicago ( SF Alfredrick Hughes, PG Carl Golston, SG Andre Battle)
2010 Butler (SF Gordon Hayward, SG Shelvin Mack)
1986 Cleveland State (PF Clinton Smith, SF Clinton Ransey, G Mouse McFadden)
1977 Detroit ( PF Terry Tyler, SF John Long, SG Terry Duerod)
1994 Green Bay (PF Jeff Nordgaard)
1998 Valparaiso (SG Bryce Drew, PF Bill Jenkins)
2005 UW Milwaukee (SF Ed McCants, PF Joah Tucker)
1993 Wright St. (PF Bill Edwards, C Mike Nahar, PG Mark Woods)

PAC 10
1968 UCLA (C Lew Alcindor, SG Lucius Allen, SF Lynn Shackleford)
1981 Oregon State (C Steve Johnson, SG Ray Blume, G Lester Conner)
1997 Arizona (PG Mike Bibby, G Miles Simon, SF Michael Dickerson)
1981 Arizona State (PG Fat Lever, SG Byron Scott, C Alton Lister)
1993 California (PG Jason Kidd, SF Lamond Murray, PF Brian Hendrick)
2002 Oregon (SF Luke Jackson, PG Luke Ridnour, SG Fred Jones)
1998 Stanford (PF Mark Madsen, SG Kris Weems, PG Arthur Lee)
2001 USC (PF Sam Clancy, C Brian Scalabrine, G Brandon Granville)
1983 Washington State (SG Craig Ehlo, PF Guy Williams, C Aaron Haskins)
2005 Washington (SG Nate Robinson, G/F Brandon Roy, SF Tre Simmons)

SEC
1976 Alabama (C Leon Douglas, G T.R. Dunn, PF Reggie King)
1996 Kentucky (SG Tony Delk, C McCarty, F Antoine Walker, F Ron Mercer)
1994 Arkansas (PF Corliss Williamson, SF Scottie Thurman, PG Corey Beck)
1984 Auburn (PF Charles Barkley, SF Chuck Person)
2007 Florida (SF Corey Brewer, C Al Horford, PF Joakim Noah)
1982 Georgia (SF Dominique Wilkins, C Terry Fair, SG Vern Fleming)
1981 LSU (SG Howard Carter, PF Durand Macklin, SF Leonard Mitchell)
1996 Miss State ( C Erik Dampier, SF Dontae Jones, SG Darryl Wilson)
2001 Ole Miss (C Rahim Lockhart, PF Justin Reed)
1974 South Carolina (SG Brian Winters, F Alex English, PG Mike Dunleavy)
2008 Tennessee (SG Chris Lofton, PF Tyler Smith, SF Jajuan Smith)
1988 Vanderbilt (C Will Perdue, SG Barry Goheen, SF Barry Booker)


WCC
1977 San Francisco (C Bill Cartwrght, SF Winford Boynes, PF James Hardy)
2004 Gonzaga (SF Adam Morrison, PG Blake Stepp, PF Ronnie Turiaf)
1990 Loyola Marymount (C Hank Gathers, SF Bo Kimble, SG Jeff Fryer)
1983 Pepperdine (PF Orlando Phillips, SG Dane Suttle)
2010 St.Mary's (C Omar Samhan)
1993 Santa Clara (C Pete Eisenrich, PG Steve Nash)
1978 Portland (PG Darwin Cook, SF Reggie Logan, PF Rick Raivio)
1987 San Diego (C Scott Thompson, PF Nils Madden)

ATLANTIC 10
1977 UNCC (C Cedric Maxwell, SG Chad Kinch, SF Lew Massey)
1988 Temple (SG Mark Macon, PG Howard Evans, C Duane Causwell, C Ramon Rivas)
1984 Dayton (PF Roosevelt Chapman, SF Damon Goodwin)
1971 Duquesne (SF Mickey Davis, C Garry Nelson, SG Jarrett Durham)
1971 Fordham (PF Charlie Yelverton, SF Ken Charles)
1998 George Wash (C Alexander Koul, PG Shawnta Rogers)
1990 LaSalle (PF Lionel Simmons, PG Doug Overton, SG Randy Woods)
1995 UMass (C Marcus Camby, PG Edgar Padilla, SG Carmelo Travieso)
1988 Rhode Island (PF Kenny Green, SG Tom Garrick, PG Carlton Owens)
1988 Richmond (PF Peter Woolfolk, SG Rodney Rice)
2004 Saint Joe (PG Jameer Nelson, SG Delonte West)
1995 St. Louis (SG Erwin Claggett, PG H. Waldman)
1970 St. Bona (C Bob Lanier, PF Matt Gantt, SF Greg Gary)
2003 Xavier (PG Lionel Chalmers, SF Romain Sato, C David West)


BIG 12
2010 Baylor (PF Ekpe Udoh, SG Lace Dunn)
1988 Oklahoma (PG Mookie Blaylock, PF Harvey Grant, C Stacy King)
1997 Kansas (SF Paul Pierce, PF Raef LaFrentz, C Scott Pollard, PG Jacque Vaughn)
2004 Oklahoma St (SG Tony Allen, PG John Lucas, PF Ivan McFarlin)
2000 Iowa St (C Marcus Fizer, PF Stevie Johnson, PG Jamaal Tinsley)
1996 Texas Tech (C Tony Battie, SG Chris Carr, PF Darvin Ham, SF Jason Sasser)
1997 Colorado (PG Chauncey Billups, C Martice Moore, PF Fred Edmonds)
1981 Kansas St. (SG Rolando Blackmon, PF Ed Nealy, PF Randy Reed)
1982 Missouri (C Steve Stipanovich, PF Ricky Frazier, PG Jon Sunvold)
1991 Nebraska (C Rich King, PF Tony Farmer, SG Eric Piatkowski
1980 Texas A&M (SG Dave Britton, PF Vern Smith, C Rudy Woods, F Rynn Wright)
2003 Texas (PG T.J. Ford, C James Thomas, SF Brandon Mouton)


CONF USA
1984 Tulsa (PG Ricky Ross, SG Steve Harris, C Bruce Vanley)
1995 ECU (PF Anton Gill, C Chuckie Robinson)
1983 Houston (C Olaujowon, SG Drexler, SF Michael Young, PF Larry Micheaux)
1988 Marshall (C Tom Curry, SG Skip Henderson, PF Rodney Holden)
1985 Memphis (PF Keith Lee, C William Bedford, PG Andre Turner, SG Vince Askew)
1992 Rice (C Brent Scott, SF Chase Maag, PF Torrey Andrews, PG Dana Hardy)
1984 SMU (C Jon Koncak, PF Larry Davis, SF Carl Wright)
1991 So. Miss (PF Clarence Weatherspoon, C Daron Jenkins, G Darrin Chancellor)
1982 Tulane (C Hot Rod Williams, PF Paul Thompson)
1982 UAB (SG Oliver Robinson, PF Chris Giles, C Norm Anchrum)
2004 UCF (SG Dexter Lyons, PF Josh Bodden)
1966 UTEP (C David Lattin, PG Bobby Joe Hill, SG Orsten Artis, C Nevil Shed)

[msh555]

Re: Metallicarl's All Time Basketball Dream Season

Unfortunately I don't have a PS3 to try these on, but I'm wondering if you could post the overall ratings for 1977 UNCC. Thanks.

[metallicarl]

Re: Metallicarl's All Time Basketball Dream Season

Unfortunately I don't have a PS3 to try these on, but I'm wondering if you could post the overall ratings for 1977 UNCC. Thanks.

I'm not sure I rate players the same as default so I dont know how these work with other teams that havent been rerated. I made a few formulas off of actual per minute player stats, but here's UNCC's roster

#33 F/C Cedric Maxwell 6-8/205 SR NC (82)
#23 SF Lew Massey 6-5 JR NC (74)
#21 SG Chad Kinch 6-4 FR NJ (76)
#25 PF Kevin King 6-7 SOPH NJ (74)
#32 PG Melvin Watkins 6-3 SR NC (73)
#12 G Jeff Gruber 6-0 JR NC (68)
#31 PF Phil Scott 6-6 FR MD (72)
#44 F Mike Hester 6-7 FR NC (69)
#22 G Todd Crowley 6-4 NC (66)
#43 F/C Ken Angel 6-8 SR KY (69)
#10 PG Jerry Winston 5-9 SOPH NJ (66)
#24 G Lee Whitfield 6-1 FR NC (67)
#42 G/F Henry Caldwell 6-2 SR SC (66)
#35 C Greg Spain 6-8 JR MD (66)

[jplayo]

Re: Metallicarl's All Time Basketball Dream Season

Would it be work for both 09 and 10...I own only PS3 NCAA 10
And I'm very interested in your wonderful project, I don't know all the teams perfectly but they seem to be good choices...all my youth too! (play with the flashy Ernie di Gregorio, Providence'73 would be great)
Is there any limitation to create players in the game? and do you use BASKETBALLREFERENCE to get information about the teams?
Deeply with your work, greetings from France

[metallicarl]

Re: Metallicarl's All Time Basketball Dream Season

Would it be work for both 09 and 10...I own only PS3 NCAA 10
And I'm very interested in your wonderful project, I don't know all the teams perfectly but they seem to be good choices...all my youth too! (play with the flashy Ernie di Gregorio, Providence'73 would be great)
Is there any limitation to create players in the game? and do you use BASKETBALLREFERENCE to get information about the teams?
Deeply with your work, greetings from France

These rosters are for NCAA 10 on PS3, I put 09-10 because thats the way the seasons are listed. The only limitations are the players year(freshman, sophomore, etc) cant be changed but I have tried to get it as close as possible by editing players with the same year(editing seniors into other seniors). That Providence team should be fun with Ernie D, Marvin Barnes, and company....I try to use as many references as I can, sports-reference.com is great and I have quite a few old basketball preseason guides, and googling a ton of names. Thanks for the feedback!!

[jplayo]

Re: Metallicarl's All Time Basketball Dream Season

Metallicarl, do you hesitate for the teams without a year? very difficult to choose one (I could suggest 84-85 for Georgia Tech with Mark Price and John Salley, ...or 89-90 with Kenny Anderson, Virginia 80-81, Loyola Marymount 89-90 with RIP Hank Gathers and former French Championship player Bo Kimble, and don't forget 89-90 NCAA Champion UNLV and so PHI SLAMA JAMA Houston 83-84!!)
Great and long work you try to do, do you know if it's possible in the game, to reproduce the playing style of each teams (no analogy between Houston and Duke'92 for example)

[Playmakers]

Re: Metallicarl's All Time Basketball Dream Season

I've always felt EA's basketball could be edited to make it feel better on the floor by having the players fee more grounded.

I think in NCAA 08 i had to make the following changes globally to give movement done right and also make the AI smarter on offense and defense

Passing +5
Speed +10
Quickness -40
Offensive Ability +15
Defensive Ability +15
Fatigue -5

[metallicarl]

Re: Metallicarl's All Time Basketball Dream Season

Metallicarl, do you hesitate for the teams without a year? very difficult to choose one (I could suggest 84-85 for Georgia Tech with Mark Price and John Salley, ...or 89-90 with Kenny Anderson, Virginia 80-81, Loyola Marymount 89-90 with RIP Hank Gathers and former French Championship player Bo Kimble, and don't forget 89-90 NCAA Champion UNLV and so PHI SLAMA JAMA Houston 83-84!!)
Great and long work you try to do, do you know if it's possible in the game, to reproduce the playing style of each teams (no analogy between Houston and Duke'92 for example)

I've already done rosters for the teams, even if I didnt list the year yet...that list isn't complete, I just havent finished updating it yet. For GT I did the year with Scott, Oliver, and Anderson and LMU has the late, great Gathers( By the way, one of my alltime favorite players!!) and I went with 83 Houston instead of 84 just so my 83 NC State could beat them again and again haha!! I havent gotten into the styles yet...the up tempo and motion offense combined has been giving me fits in testing with team putting up 90+ points on me but I dont think you can edit coaching, you would have to set it pregame(someone correct me if I'm wrong)

[metallicarl]

Re: Metallicarl's All Time Basketball Dream Season

I've always felt EA's basketball could be edited to make it feel better on the floor by having the players fee more grounded.

I think in NCAA 08 i had to make the following changes globally to give movement done right and also make the AI smarter on offense and defense

Passing +5
Speed +10
Quickness -40
Offensive Ability +15
Defensive Ability +15
Fatigue -5

Since I'm new at this game any help on ratings from you would be great!! I came up with a few scales for ratings based on default highs and lows, but with some tinkering. And I made scales for most attributes based off a players stats per minute....seems to working pretty well. Speed and quickness I have been basing off the type of player they were. I did notice that defensive ability seemed really low, so I did bump them around 10-15. I'll briefly breakdown a few of my charts:

Passing
Assists/per minute--Rating
.25+ = 99
.18 = 90
.12 = 80
.07 = 70
If a player was a good passer but just didnt have many assists, I give them a bump

Offensive rebound/PM ---Rating
.20 = 99
.15 = 84
.10 = 69
.05 = 54

Defensive rebound/PM---rating
.25 = 99
.20 = 87
.15 = 75
.10 = 63
.05 = 51

With these rebound settings, it keeps average players low, but they still get rebounds based on position. But the dominant rebounders really stand out, especially on the offensive end. Let me know what yours thought are on this system. I also use a players actual FT% for the rating and have a scale for FG% that I use with their shooting range:

FG%--Rating
70 = 91
65 = 85
60 = 79
55 = 73
50 = 67
45 = 61
40 = 55
35 = 49
30 = 43

[metallicarl]

Re: Metallicarl's All Time Basketball Dream Season

Just a little update.... I've been chipping away at this for the last few weeks and have around 120 teams done(still need to tweak a few ratings as I play with teams) and plan to have around 210 when I'm fnished. I will try to post updates on here of the teams and years when I get a chance. On a side note, if anyone could find the player's mnutes played or avg minutes per game for 1997 Arizona, please post on here. It shouldnt be so hard to find complete stats for a pretty recent NCAA champion...but it is. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!

[mathteachernerd1968]

Re: Metallicarl's All Time Basketball Dream Season

Not sure if this forum/game are dead, but after not playing a PS3 basketball game for 6-7 years, I bought NCAA 09-10. I'm currently working on a roster consisting of each school's best season. If anyone is interested I will share with the community. If anyone has any feedback or info they want to share please post on here. I have already picked teams and completed most player data...just working on ratings and I will post a list of teams within a week or two.

I'm interested in these rosters. Can you provide a link?

I'm putting together some Alumni rosters. Working on the ACC first, and I'm doing it by decades. So for example, UNC '80-'89, Duke '86-'95, UVA '80-89, etc.

I just got the game yesterday. I might just do 1980-1999 rosters for all teams. Someone else can do the ones after 2000.

[built]

Re: Metallicarl's All Time Basketball Dream Season

Metallicarl who is going to be on the teams you are not doing? How will they be rated?

[metallicarl]

Re: Metallicarl's All Time Basketball Dream Season

Metallicarl who is going to be on the teams you are not doing? How will they be rated?

I think I'm just going to lower some ratings so there will be a few players in the low 70's and the rest 69-60. There shouldnt be too many of these teams though because I'm going pretty in depth including most Southern Conf teams, MAC, Horizon, etc. Almost every school no matter how small usually had at least one break out season between 1960's-2010.

[mathteachernerd1968]

Re: Metallicarl's All Time Basketball Dream Season

Carl,

Have you supplied a link yet, or are you waiting to finish before doing so?