Things you don’t spam with playing against the CPU to keep things fair (sim)?

[jrose57]

What are the things that you don’t spam with on the court playing against the CPU just to keep it fair (sim)?

I am an experienced 2K player against the CPU not other people (I don’t like to play against people, yup, I am weird! lol) and that is the reason I know things I am not supposed to abuse with or else I will feel guilty of cheating. Please see below for my very own list and let me know what your list is!

1. I don’t hit the steal button when during a pass the CPU makes because I can easily steal the ball, I will only steal the ball when the CPU is dribbling or posting me up

2. It is WAYYY TOOO EASSSYYYYYY to score in the paint! First of all, the passing to the big man is already too easy which helps when I turned up the steal slider from 50 to 55, however, it is still pretty easy to get the ball down low vs. in real NBA basketball, in 2K, the defender is 90% of the time behind the guy I want to throw the ball down low to, so all I do is pass, back down, do some fancy post moves and either I score or I get a foul, rarely a miss. THEREFORE, I don’t do anything fancy with any my post player, I either just do a hook shot left or right or fade-away left or right, so I will not kill the CPU in the paint

3. This is a new one I discover lately, I don’t throw alley-op passes unless I am on a fast break situation, which means what Paul and Griffin/Jordan do all day, that pick and roll and lop city stuff is way too easy in the game, once Griffin or Jordan is running towards the basket and you throw it up they will catch it almost everything and dunk it all over the paint, so I don’t do that at all, I will just do a normal pass to the big man running towards the basket and hope he will catch it and attack it with a layup or dunk

4. Moving my hands to intercept an in-bound pass, way too easy, if the guy I am using is tall with long arms, I can get him to get very close to the CPU inbounding the ball and nonstop moving my arms and I can get a steal very easily, intercept, grab the ball, fast break, layup or dunk, so I don’t do that, I just stand in front of the guy inbounding the ball and that is it, keep it real and fair you know

These are pretty much it, things I don’t do myself to keep things fair and realistic against the CPU…can’t wait to see you guys’ inputs

[JerzeyReign]

Re: Things you don’t spam with playing against the CPU to keep things fair (sim)?

Honestly, SS and below is cool but during my last days of playing 2K, HOF/Sim with no adjustments felt good. You have to lock in and adjust constantly - something I like doing - but I was free to do whatever I needed to keep up without it feeling cheap because most of the time the AI would eventually take it away. Just ran my triangle and played.

[jrose57]

Re: Things you don’t spam with playing against the CPU to keep things fair (sim)?

Honestly, SS and below is cool but during my last days of playing 2K, HOF/Sim with no adjustments felt good. You have to lock in and adjust constantly - something I like doing - but I was free to do whatever I needed to keep up without it feeling cheap because most of the time the AI would eventually take it away. Just ran my triangle and played.

What do you mean by last days of playing 2k? Like 2k13 and 2k14 or what? For me, it is okay to adjust accordingly which is how real ball play right, you must think of different ways to adjust based on what is going on during that moment in the game, however, like you said, the CPU will take it all away, all the hard work, for example, if the CPU is up like 15 and I play my heart out, then I can get the score to be closed but later on, the CPU will get super mad at me for catching up and just kill me with all the insane things, and there is just nothing I can do to stop them and I can claim I am a pretty good player against the CPU…yeah just happy sharing with you guys lol

[raiderphantom]

Re: Things you don’t spam with playing against the CPU to keep things fair (sim)?

Sometimes it can be too easy to predict when a cpu is going to take a jumper and block it. So instead I'll just hands up on the shooter.

[dwayne12345]

Re: Things you don’t spam with playing against the CPU to keep things fair (sim)?

Sliders would help some of those things you listed.

I brought down the close shot slider to 38 so that only superstars are money.

I dropped contact shot success, dunk in traffic success, and layup success. With those down in the 30's on HOF lob city isn't nearly as cheesy unless paul and blake/jordan are at full stamina.

[Hustle Westbrook]

Re: Things you don’t spam with playing against the CPU to keep things fair (sim)?

Nothing.

I have no mercy for the CPU on HOF.

[HowDareI]

Re: Things you don’t spam with playing against the CPU to keep things fair (sim)?

I used to feel guilty when I knew exactly what play they were running and got an instant steal...but then I realized even that's slightly realistic.
If your coach knows the opponent's play and you stop it it's not cheesy lol

[dweeks82]

Re: Things you don’t spam with playing against the CPU to keep things fair (sim)?

Sliders would help some of those things you listed.

I brought down the close shot slider to 38 so that only superstars are money.

I dropped contact shot success, dunk in traffic success, and layup success. With those down in the 30's on HOF lob city isn't nearly as cheesy unless paul and blake/jordan are at full stamina.

I've done the same thing, I've dropped a lot of the shooting sliders so that you get more realistic scores and rebounding totals (I play 11 minute quarters and with normal sliders my teams only get like 30 boards a game which is highly unrealistic) I also raised the foul sliders because you get unrealistically low free throw attempts, even with playing 11 minute quarters. I raised the sliders and the teams went from 12-15 FT's a game to mid 20's. Much more realistic. And with the lowered shooting sliders, you don't have scrub *** players like Doug McDermott lighting you up for 35 points because people can just spam 3's with guys like him.

[dwayne12345]

Re: Things you don’t spam with playing against the CPU to keep things fair (sim)?

I've done the same thing, I've dropped a lot of the shooting sliders so that you get more realistic scores and rebounding totals (I play 11 minute quarters and with normal sliders my teams only get like 30 boards a game which is highly unrealistic) I also raised the foul sliders because you get unrealistically low free throw attempts, even with playing 11 minute quarters. I raised the sliders and the teams went from 12-15 FT's a game to mid 20's. Much more realistic. And with the lowered shooting sliders, you don't have scrub *** players like Doug McDermott lighting you up for 35 points because people can just spam 3's with guys like him.

Exactly. I do 10 minute quarters and even with these FG% near 38 I can have a 50% FG shooting night against the right matchup.

I forget to mention that I also raised Shot Contest on the jump shot gather so guys aren't hitting contested jays all night against good d

[PandaPower2k]

Re: Things you don’t spam with playing against the CPU to keep things fair (sim)?

There are some money plays in most playbooks. I try to avoid them. I leave the offensive plays to my coach and players mainly. Running Swing Motion with Spurs for instance, and some Smart Plays now and then. Say if Duncan is hot or is defended by a small PF, I "run offense through Duncan" or choose "Post" as my offensive emphasis, and use "Smart Plays" to utilize that emphasis.

I don't mind stealing inbound passes. It's gamble after all, for me it works less than half the time... And if I fail to intercept, I am basically defending 4v5 with one guy way out of position...

Same goes for on-ball steals as well. Reaching in is a big risk against HoF Cpu, they'll blow by you when you're out of position for a second. That's why it's a risk I am not willing to take most of the time.

I play with default Sim sliders. And I think it is pretty realistic.

Here's my last game's team stats:

I was a bit lucky with my outside shots thought... Otherwise, my FG would have been closer to 50%. Ginobili went 11/13 in that game, normally he goes like 5/13 for me

Here's the full game if anyone is interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxZ4AUVCR58

[LorenzoDC]

Re: Things you don’t spam with playing against the CPU to keep things fair (sim)?

Exactly. I do 10 minute quarters and even with these FG% near 38 I can have a 50% FG shooting night against the right matchup.

I forget to mention that I also raised Shot Contest on the jump shot gather so guys aren't hitting contested jays all night against good d

I'm with you guys. I have really tweaked my sliders to correct for these kinds of things, with SS s a base. I get realistic stats every game and neither steals nor alley oops nor really anything else is money. The CPU adjusts to what I am doing and I have to adjust back. to keep up or stay ahead.

Took a whole new round of slider tweaks after patch 4 to deal with shooting, but I found a good balance. Finally.

[jrose57]

Re: Things you don’t spam with playing against the CPU to keep things fair (sim)?

There are some money plays in most playbooks. I try to avoid them. I leave the offensive plays to my coach and players mainly. Running Swing Motion with Spurs for instance, and some Smart Plays now and then. Say if Duncan is hot or is defended by a small PF, I "run offense through Duncan" or choose "Post" as my offensive emphasis, and use "Smart Plays" to utilize that emphasis.

I don't mind stealing inbound passes. It's gamble after all, for me it works less than half the time... And if I fail to intercept, I am basically defending 4v5 with one guy way out of position...

Same goes for on-ball steals as well. Reaching in is a big risk against HoF Cpu, they'll blow by you when you're out of position for a second. That's why it's a risk I am not willing to take most of the time.

I play with default Sim sliders. And I think it is pretty realistic.

Here's my last game's team stats:

I was a bit lucky with my outside shots thought... Otherwise, my FG would have been closer to 50%. Ginobili went 11/13 in that game, normally he goes like 5/13 for me

Here's the full game if anyone is interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxZ4AUVCR58

Bro, what do you use to record the game, I wanna do the same as well, please teach me!

[jrose57]

Re: Things you don’t spam with playing against the CPU to keep things fair (sim)?

I've done the same thing, I've dropped a lot of the shooting sliders so that you get more realistic scores and rebounding totals (I play 11 minute quarters and with normal sliders my teams only get like 30 boards a game which is highly unrealistic) I also raised the foul sliders because you get unrealistically low free throw attempts, even with playing 11 minute quarters. I raised the sliders and the teams went from 12-15 FT's a game to mid 20's. Much more realistic. And with the lowered shooting sliders, you don't have scrub *** players like Doug McDermott lighting you up for 35 points because people can just spam 3's with guys like him.

Bro you play online? If not, what level of difficulty you are playing against CPU?

[psyberkayos]

Re: Things you don’t spam with playing against the CPU to keep things fair (sim)?

If I'm destroying, I won't spam the interception cheese when any CPU is passing to the PG. so easy to predict.

However, I'm a firm believer that on Hall of Fame difficulty..

NO SPORTSMANSHIP. [:Chris Smoove voice:]

They cheese and I cheese right back.

[jrose57]

Re: Things you don’t spam with playing against the CPU to keep things fair (sim)?

If I'm destroying, I won't spam the interception cheese when any CPU is passing to the PG. so easy to predict.

However, I'm a firm believer that on Hall of Fame difficulty..

NO SPORTSMANSHIP. [:Chris Smoove voice:]

They cheese and I cheese right back.

Yeah I realized that too, like there are things we know CPU will cheese on us in HOF difficulty, and at the same time, we must do the same just to keep ourselves in the game and compete, whereas in SS difficulty, CPU doesn’t really cheese and I don’t like myself to cheese so I won’t do so (the list I have in my first post are those things that I can easily cheese with and abuse the CPU), therefore, it feels like a SIM basketball game