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  • DCEBB2001
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    • Nov 2008
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    #16
    Re: Madden NFL 16 Rookie Ratings Revealed

    Originally posted by CM Hooe
    I know 40 time doesn't equate to top speed, but Jameis Winston's 4.97s forty time and his 73 SPD rating don't jive with me, assuming that Madden is rating people the way they normally do. Would be interested to see his other athletic ratings.
    Yup, I agree. They obviously don't use verifiable hard data for metrics that should.

    95 THP for Winston? That's just terrible. Watch all his underthrows at his pro day. They can't even "Youtube Scout" correctly.

    Gurley a 91 SPD? We had him at a 4.52 BEFORE he got hurt. In 2014 we had him at 4.55. That is just awful.

    Gordon is at least closer to justifying that 91 SPD with his best handheld time at the combine of 4.43, but still that is too high. Mariota (4.43 as well) with an 88 SPD is actually close to what it should be, but still a little high. However, Beasley ran a 4.50 hand-held and got an 88.

    So you have Gordon and Mariota who both ran 4.43 but Gordon gets a 91 and Mariota gets an 88. THEN, Beasley ran a 4.50 but he also gets an 88? What the what are they doing over there?
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    • jfsolo
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      #17
      Re: Madden NFL 16 Rookie Ratings Revealed

      Originally posted by CM Hooe
      I know 40 time doesn't equate to top speed, but Jameis Winston's 4.97s forty time and his 73 SPD rating don't jive with me, assuming that Madden is rating people the way they normally do. Would be interested to see his other athletic ratings.
      Yeah, that is one of those "Madden ratings" that are given to some players to increase their effectiveness and "usability" in the game.
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      • khaliib
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        • Jan 2005
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        #18
        Re: Madden NFL 16 Rookie Ratings Revealed

        I'm curious what they meant buy "Speed" being adjusted/tweaked in M16?

        Seeing Beasley with 88 SPD, I'm wondering/hoping something was done so that he would not be like a WR with 88 SPD.
        I get the ACC to represent his burst, but hope that "Speed" is more representative of the players position and not the same across the board.

        Elusiveness for QB's is a welcome as this was the culprit to the "Sack Issue" in M15 because they were rated very low (20-40's) in this area.

        To me, rookies being rated around the 80's is still too high because it means the game again will not utilize a large portion of the 0-99 scale.

        This means that players below 70 are once again just placeholders for the depth chart purposes because the AI will not utilize them (it will pick up a free agent rated higher).

        Any ways, can't wait for early play to be available for EA Access.

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        • Hooe
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          • Aug 2002
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          #19
          Re: Madden NFL 16 Rookie Ratings Revealed

          Originally posted by The JareBear
          Why are all these dudes in the video if we don't get most of their ratings? They usually release a spreadsheet at some point with all the rookies right?
          Last year, they released a spreadsheet with every rating for every player in the game at the end of the ratings roll out. There were a ton of small reveals like this, however.

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          • charter04
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            • May 2010
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            #20
            Re: Madden NFL 16 Rookie Ratings Revealed - Top 10

            These ratings are too high but, I guess they fit with how Madden rates everyone else. To me it's not just that they might be to high overalls but, it's the inconsistency in how they rate speed. I'm just not sure how they decide that number at all.

            Winston with 95 Thp is laughable.

            The funniest part of the video is Colman thinking he would be over 90. Either he doesn't understand how this works or he already thinks he should be rated as one of the best RB's in the NFL without playing a down. He's not even the best RB in the rookie class IMO.

            Oh well. We really shouldn't be surprised. This is par for the course for the last 5 years or so.
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            • redsox4evur
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              #21
              Re: Madden NFL 16 Rookie Ratings Revealed

              Originally posted by CM Hooe
              Last year, they released a spreadsheet with every rating for every player in the game at the end of the ratings roll out. There were a ton of small reveals like this, however.
              I think they did something like top 5 guys per position or something like that.
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              • Steel4Reel
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                #22
                Re: Madden NFL 16 Rookie Ratings Revealed - Top 10

                Originally posted by charter04
                These ratings are too high but, I guess they fit with how Madden rates everyone else. To me it's not just that they might be to high overalls but, it's the inconsistency in how they rate speed. I'm just not sure how they decide that number at all.

                Winston with 95 Thp is laughable.

                The funniest part of the video is Colman thinking he would be over 90. Either he doesn't understand how this works or he already thinks he should be rated as one of the best RB's in the NFL without playing a down. He's not even the best RB in the rookie class IMO.

                Oh well. We really shouldn't be surprised. This is par for the course for the last 5 years or so.
                They pretty much all guessed high. Its one of 3 things...1) they are joking, 2) they have huge egos, or 3) they dont know how the ratings work.

                Most of them seemed to have a sense of humor about, so it could be 1.

                You can never rule out 2.

                If its 3....maybe EA will hire them to replace Donny Moore.

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                • cam21224
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                  • Jun 2008
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                  #23
                  Re: Madden NFL 16 Rookie Ratings Revealed - Top 10

                  Inflation and most ratings not meaning much drives me crazy with Madden.

                  I'm not much of a programmer at all, but I'd like to see things other then speed showing on the field.

                  Couple examples

                  QB with high throwing power but low accurracy over throwing some passes

                  QB with low throwing power but high accuracy under throwing some passes

                  RB with low juke and elusive moves stumbling if they miss the timing on these moves or if a user is spamming these moves with a trucking back fall flat on his face

                  Lineman with high finesse moves but low power moves attempting power moves on a great Offensive lineman getting pancaked

                  Etc, going forward they need to find a way to differentiate the guys who are good to great at multiple things from one trick ponies with something other than a Overall number, speed etc


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                  • jfsolo
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                    • May 2003
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                    #24
                    Re: Madden NFL 16 Rookie Ratings Revealed - Top 10

                    "Fun to use" is clearing the most important thing they go for when rating these rookies. I don't think that's ever going to change. It will be interesting to see if Manziel's ratings take a nose dive like they should, or if because he's a name, they keep him propped up for the fun factor.
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                    • TheBleedingRed21
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                      • Oct 2010
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                      #25
                      Re: Madden NFL 16 Rookie Ratings Revealed - Top 10

                      Ahhhhh. I wanted to know Dorsetts rating.. Didn't know it was only top 10.

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                      • Playmakers
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                        • Sep 2004
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                        #26
                        Re: Madden NFL 16 Rookie Ratings Revealed

                        Originally posted by Datninja619
                        "Gordon is an even better speed back than Gurley with 91 Speed, 88 Acceleration, 80 Elusiveness and 91 Spin Move. His 69 Trucking limits his inside runs, although he has 83 Stiff Arm."

                        I could work with those stats for Gordon. Elusiveness was a key stat for RBs last year, and it wasn't to expensive to upgrade.
                        Believe it or not even a guy with 69 trucking rating can bull over DT's and LB's simply because of the way EA has the ratings play out on the field.

                        I've seen it often a guy with truck rating less than 70 still over powering defenders....it's a ARCADE aspect of the game that they use every sinlge year.

                        You basically have to lower the RB Slider just to stop seeing non-sense on the field with players doing things that their ratings dicate they shouldn't be able to do.

                        Trucking and Stiff Arm are both always way over done by EA doing gameplay
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                        • Potatoes002
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                          • Jul 2008
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                          #27
                          Re: Madden NFL 16 Rookie Ratings Revealed

                          In one of the old Madden blogs wasn't the rookie WR scouted rated like a 86ovr? I'm curious how the generated classes will compare with the 2015 draft class.

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                          • urlacher51
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                            #28
                            Re: Madden NFL 16 Rookie Ratings Revealed - Top 10

                            Does anyone know if these are Donny Moore's ratings?
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                            • redsox4evur
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                              #29
                              Re: Madden NFL 16 Rookie Ratings Revealed - Top 10

                              Originally posted by urlacher51
                              Does anyone know if these are Donny Moore's ratings?
                              Yes they are...
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                              • MoneyOvaHuds
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                                #30
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                                Kevin White is going to be a beast , I can't wait

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