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  • King_B_Mack
    All Star
    • Jan 2009
    • 24450

    #91
    Re: Could NBA 2K16 be Implementing College Hoops?

    Originally posted by dwayne12345
    WWE is a bit different though. If those indy guys sue the WWE they'll never get a chance to work there.

    Since the NBA has a players union getting on the bad side of the association doesn't hurt your chances of employment as much as it would in the WWE (a unionless monopoly).
    That's not really a significant difference though. The only real difference is wrestling doesn't have a union. Other than that, same deal mostly. WWE is the biggest promotion in the world and where you can make the most money in your profession, though you can make a few decent dollars in other promotions. The NBA is the biggest basketball league in the world and where you can make the most money in your profession, though you can make a few decent dollars in other leagues. Players getting blackballed out of a league is not unheard of in the biggest American sports.

    Originally posted by Pokes404
    I do agree with that. You'd think someone would have jumped on the chance to possibly earn a few extra bucks from these companies. Of course, lawsuits are an expensive proposition. Even if you're proven right, you have to weigh whether the time, effort, and cost is really worth the fight. The Ed O'Bannon & Sam Keller cases were about more than just video games. They were also looking at jersey sales, TV money, promotional items, etc. So the potential payout opportunities from something like that might have been enough to convince them to push forward with the lawsuit.

    Again, I don't really know the legal basis for holding 2K/EA accountable for content created by a user, I'm just saying that in EA's case, its roster sharing feature is potentially more ammunition for lawyers to throw out there at how EA is knowingly profiting off of players free of charge. It's sort of like Napster back in the early-2000s claiming they were strictly a file-sharing program and couldn't be held accountable for what users were using their program to share. The courts ruled that wasn't the case, and they were responsible for any copyrighted material being illegally shared through their system. Now, obviously there's a pretty big difference in Napster's case as we're talking about sharing copyrighted material owned by a third party. But it's an example that companies can be held accountable for what their users are doing, especially if it can be proven that the company knew their product/software was being used in such a way. I can see the EA board of directors deciding that it's in the grey area and just cutting it from the game to be safe.

    I've talked about this too long now, and I really have no legal expertise to be doing so haha. Simply put, I can see a situation where roster sharing features could potentially be used against companies in court and those companies removing it to be safe rather than sorry. I pray that isn't the case though.
    Yeah, I know the case and the details involved as far as what they're suing for. I'm just saying if you're going to tell me the reason that there's no problem with NBA 2K's roster sharing is because nobody is suing them, then we should probably look at why they aren't being sued for that. Best answer I can come up with is that there isn't any legal ground to stand on for that. 2K, EA all these guys have their own team of really smart, highly paid lawyers just like the Ed O'Bannon's of the world. The second this likeness issue came up and certainly once the rulings started to go against them, you really think they would ship out a game with the roster sharing still in it? EA Sports won't even make the United Center's home ice design for the Blackhawks look at least kinda similar to how it actually looks because they don't have the rights to the UC for the NHL games and they don't want to risk getting sued otherwise.

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    • videlsports
      Pro
      • Dec 2008
      • 500

      #92
      Re: Could NBA 2K16 be Implementing College Hoops?

      Then get drafted by the 76ers and stay there for a while, so the Sixers can continue being a terrible team acquiring draft picks and assets... lolol Joking about that part.[/quote]



      LOL unfortunately you are telling the truth Bro.


      College basketball from 2k sports.. another big time seller like 2k.


      Then college FOOTBALL!!!!
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      • DC
        Hall Of Fame
        • Oct 2002
        • 17996

        #93
        Re: Could NBA 2K16 be Implementing College Hoops?

        @darrenrovell: 2K has indeed gotten the licenses to at least 10 college teams & will have college basketball.
        Concrete evidence/videos please

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        • Clappington
          Pro
          • Sep 2013
          • 737

          #94
          Re: Could NBA 2K16 be Implementing College Hoops?

          Originally posted by DC
          @darrenrovell: 2K has indeed gotten the licenses to at least 10 college teams & will have college basketball.
          Yup just saw that on twitter, wonder if he knows anything we dont.
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          • huntt26
            Pro
            • Nov 2006
            • 899

            #95
            Re: Could NBA 2K16 be Implementing College Hoops?

            Originally posted by DC
            @darrenrovell: 2K has indeed gotten the licenses to at least 10 college teams & will have college basketball.
            Well, that is some awesome news! Unfortunate it's a small number of schools, but gotta start somewhere.

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            • jfsolo
              Live Action, please?
              • May 2003
              • 12965

              #96
              Re: Could NBA 2K16 be Implementing College Hoops?

              IMO, paying a licensing fee just for utilization in cut scenes/storytelling would be a waste of money. I know that a lot of people are super big on authenticity in all things, but they should just use all fictitious schools if there isn't going to be any playability with the real schools. Use that coin on something else.
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              • DoEweWumb0
                Rookie
                • Jul 2013
                • 31

                #97
                Re: Could NBA 2K16 be Implementing College Hoops?

                Originally posted by huntt26
                Well, that is some awesome news! Unfortunate it's a small number of schools, but gotta start somewhere.
                Yeah, unless your a fan of one of the ten juggernaut schools listed, it's just gonna be seen as limited progress.

                One thing to think about... Steph Curry went to Davidson, a super small school. If their going to feature his college likeness attending a small school on the cover, wouldn't that open the door to make other small schools featured?

                I'm probably just reaching here. Still pretty exciting to hear "College" and "2k" be mentioned seriously by the media.
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                • Sinner
                  All Star
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 5483

                  #98
                  Re: Could NBA 2K16 be Implementing College Hoops?

                  Even though if true I hope it ends up being more thank 10 that would still be very good news to me. Now the thing is will there be rule changes for college and will they have different commentary for college in playing those games.

                  Can't wait to start getting more info on this. Can't you get the game slightly early with pre-order? Now would that also bring the info in a little earlier?

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                  • steagles
                    Rookie
                    • Jan 2015
                    • 152

                    #99
                    Re: Could NBA 2K16 be Implementing College Hoops?

                    Originally posted by DoEweWumb0
                    Yeah, unless your a fan of one of the ten juggernaut schools listed, it's just gonna be seen as limited progress.

                    One thing to think about... Steph Curry went to Davidson, a super small school. If their going to feature his college likeness attending a small school on the cover, wouldn't that open the door to make other small schools featured?

                    I'm probably just reaching here. Still pretty exciting to hear "College" and "2k" be mentioned seriously by the media.
                    But its everything for me as a University of Louisville student!
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                    • jeremym480
                      Speak it into existence
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 18197

                      #100
                      Re: Could NBA 2K16 be Implementing College Hoops?

                      Originally posted by jfsolo
                      IMO, paying a licensing fee just for utilization in cut scenes/storytelling would be a waste of money. I know that a lot of people are super big on authenticity in all things, but they should just use all fictitious schools if there isn't going to be any playability with the real schools. Use that coin on something else.
                      Hopefully, I'm wrong but I get the feeling that colleges will be for MyCareer only. Which honestly I don't care about, but to me that would fit the #BeTheStory narrative. Maybe you could use them in exhibition too, but imo that will be it...

                      I just don't see them adding most of the NCAA schools, all of the rules, player editing, ability to draft from those players, etc. that most MyLeague players would want. I'd love to have that and basically have two games for the price of one, but the pessimist in me is saying that's a pipe dream.


                      Originally posted by Sinner
                      Even though if true I hope it ends up being more thank 10 that would still be very good news to me. Now the thing is will there be rule changes for college and will they have different commentary for college in playing those games.

                      Can't wait to start getting more info on this. Can't you get the game slightly early with pre-order? Now would that also bring the info in a little earlier?

                      Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk
                      Yes, you can get it September 25th if you pre-order... it's September 29th without pre-ordering. Last year the MyLeague info dropped in early August if I recall correctly and the game came out October 7th. Assuming the keep the same marketing schedule, then we should be getting substantial info within the next week or two.
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                      • jfsolo
                        Live Action, please?
                        • May 2003
                        • 12965

                        #101
                        Re: Could NBA 2K16 be Implementing College Hoops?

                        I hope people can see the big picture and realize that the return of any playable college basketball would be a great start and not meltdown if their favorite team isn't in the mix. There has been no college hoops at all from 2K for going on 8 years. 8 YEARS.
                        Jordan Mychal Lemos
                        @crypticjordan

                        Do this today: Instead of $%*#!@& on a game you're not going to play or movie you're not going to watch, say something good about a piece of media you're excited about.

                        Do the same thing tomorrow. And the next. Now do it forever.

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                        • King_B_Mack
                          All Star
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 24450

                          #102
                          Re: Could NBA 2K16 be Implementing College Hoops?

                          Originally posted by Sinner
                          Even though if true I hope it ends up being more thank 10 that would still be very good news to me. Now the thing is will there be rule changes for college and will they have different commentary for college in playing those games.

                          Can't wait to start getting more info on this. Can't you get the game slightly early with pre-order? Now would that also bring the info in a little earlier?

                          Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk

                          I would think yes. I thought from the jump when Mike Wang mentioned the two words that were giving the engineers fits, that college was what he was getting at. Made the most sense honestly given the undertaking it would be trying to get all the differences between the two levels in the game. The shot clock, the tempos, the foul outs, the rules, the 3 point line. It could totally not be what he was talking about this whole time, but the evidence definitely says something else.


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                          • BenGerman
                            No Place Better
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 2752

                            #103
                            Re: Could NBA 2K16 be Implementing College Hoops?

                            Honestly, it would make a lot of sense for 2K to buy the license to some of the bigger schools and slowly expand depending on the success of the game if there is indeed one to be made.

                            Buy the license for a dozen teams or so and give people the creative tools to design some other schools and you're probably good to go. Rovell's tweet is so vague that it's hard to get too excited yet, but it's something.
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                            • jeremym480
                              Speak it into existence
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 18197

                              #104
                              Re: Could NBA 2K16 be Implementing College Hoops?

                              I agree that it's a step in the right direction and I glad that colleges will be back in at least some form. With that said, I'd be lying if this doesn't scare the hell out of me. Some of my favorite features and games have been yanked away from me in the past due to legal issues... And if this somehow backfires and we lose created draft classes I'm going to have a come apart.
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                              • Wildcats302
                                MVP
                                • May 2011
                                • 1046

                                #105
                                Re: Could NBA 2K16 be Implementing College Hoops?

                                Did DR say who the 10+ teams are?

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