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  • coogrfan
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    • Jul 2002
    • 15649

    #46
    Re: Madden NFL 16 Player Ratings - Top 5 Quarterbacks

    Originally posted by Pappy Knuckles
    COLTS!

    The squad is going to be a lot of fun to use this year.
    Sure, if the Colts can find a way to keep Luck off his back. Last year the Colts allowed the 4th most QB hits in the league (107).

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    If that doesn't change Indy ain't winning squat.

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    • jshake8
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      • Jul 2014
      • 45

      #47
      Re: Madden NFL 16 Player Ratings - Top 5 Quarterbacks

      Originally posted by DCEBB2001
      In Madden, yes, dropping the OVR would require you to drop the attribute values.

      In the scouting data, no. They have a separate category that modifies the overall grade based on production.

      Example:

      Attributes + Modifier = Total Grade

      5.95 + 0 (no holds/injuries/suspensions) = 5.95

      5.95 + (-1.00) (suspension) = 4.95

      His attribute value didn't change, just the modifier for the suspension.

      When I rate the players, I don't include the hold for suspensions, just injuries (because an injury to your throwing arm may inhibit your ability to throw).
      I was under the impression we were discussing the overall ratings in Madden... to which you replied and told us Brady wasn't in the top 5.

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      • DCEBB2001
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        • Nov 2008
        • 2580

        #48
        Re: Madden NFL 16 Player Ratings - Top 5 Quarterbacks

        Originally posted by jshake8
        I was under the impression we were discussing the overall ratings in Madden... to which you replied and told us Brady wasn't in the top 5.
        I provided to you how I would have them rated right now based solely on the OVR. If you go by the OVR, then Brady is NOT in the top 5. The reason being is because I am only looking at the OVR grade and posting that directly from my scouting data. I can't show anything else, as to what they would be exactly in Madden because I haven't done all of the calculations yet. It takes a few months to rate 30,000 players.
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        • Datninja619
          MVP
          • Jul 2012
          • 1929

          #49
          Re: Madden NFL 16 Player Ratings - Top 5 Quarterbacks

          I wonder what their AWR is
          That bumped a QBs OVR up tremendously in past years.

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          • jshake8
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            • Jul 2014
            • 45

            #50
            Re: Madden NFL 16 Player Ratings - Top 5 Quarterbacks

            Originally posted by DCEBB2001
            I provided to you how I would have them rated right now based solely on the OVR. If you go by the OVR, then Brady is NOT in the top 5. The reason being is because I am only looking at the OVR grade and posting that directly from my scouting data. I can't show anything else, as to what they would be exactly in Madden because I haven't done all of the calculations yet. It takes a few months to rate 30,000 players.
            So is what you posted how you would have them rated in Madden? When Madden comes out, will Brady be in the top 5?

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            • AP 17
              Rookie
              • Aug 2007
              • 99

              #51
              Originally posted by DCEBB2001
              OVRs are still inflated in my opinion. The lower DAC ratings are good though. I still think the THP ratings are too high compared to the data I have. In fact, the highest THP I have currently is a 93 for Cutler. Newton would be a close 2nd with 92 THP, Stafford and Mallett at 91, and then Rodgers, Kaepernick, Roethlisberger, etc. at 90.

              Here are my top QBs as of today:

              Rodgers 94
              Luck 86
              Brees 81
              Flacco 77
              Wilson 75

              (Yup, no Manning OR Brady in the top 5)
              Good thing u have nothing to do with the Madden ratings process.

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              • Iamloch
                Rookie
                • May 2013
                • 16

                #52
                Nice to see tad lowered but with the short and medium accuracy so high i hope it doesnt mean the qb's will be so deadly accurate with short and medium passes

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                • Find_the_Door
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                  • Jan 2012
                  • 4061

                  #53
                  Re: Madden NFL 16 Player Ratings - Top 5 Quarterbacks

                  Romo's absence is a joke - he's treated differently year to year than everyone else is.

                  As a longtime Pac 12 (10) fan there's no way Luck deserves a 95 throw power.

                  91 tops
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                  • talucchesi
                    Pro
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 509

                    #54
                    Romo better be sixth here. Perception is truly reality when it comes to sports.

                    Not quite sure how Big Ben is ahead of him, living off of his rings I see.

                    I can see Peyton being over Romo, I'd accept that.
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                    • talucchesi
                      Pro
                      • Nov 2012
                      • 509

                      #55
                      Originally posted by DCEBB2001
                      OVRs are still inflated in my opinion. The lower DAC ratings are good though. I still think the THP ratings are too high compared to the data I have. In fact, the highest THP I have currently is a 93 for Cutler. Newton would be a close 2nd with 92 THP, Stafford and Mallett at 91, and then Rodgers, Kaepernick, Roethlisberger, etc. at 90.

                      Here are my top QBs as of today:

                      Rodgers 94
                      Luck 86
                      Brees 81
                      Flacco 77
                      Wilson 75

                      (Yup, no Manning OR Brady in the top 5)
                      Lists like this make me want to dislike football
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                      • Letemburn
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                        • Jul 2003
                        • 281

                        #56
                        Re: Madden NFL 16 Player Ratings - Top 5 Quarterbacks

                        Romo had highest qb rating last year and was excellent. No way Big Ben deserves too 5 over Romo.


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                        • charter04
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                          • May 2010
                          • 5742

                          #57
                          Madden NFL 16 Player Ratings - Top 5 Quarterbacks

                          The list seems fine. Not much difference between 99-90 really.

                          It's good to see that 80 is the highest TAD.

                          Hopefully they make all throws less pinpoint and hopefully your feet must be set to use the full accuracy rating.

                          Also I hope the accuracy slider works like they should and I don't have to go to 10 or below before I really see a difference.

                          Hopefully all sliders work as they should for that matter. They haven't since M13.


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                          • slowdifference
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                            • May 2012
                            • 518

                            #58
                            Re: Madden NFL 16 Player Ratings - Top 5 Quarterbacks

                            If i had to rate top 10 qb's
                            1: Rodgers 98
                            2: Brady 96
                            3: P Manning 95
                            4: Luck 93
                            5: Brees 93
                            6: Big Ben 92
                            7: Romo 91
                            8: Wilson 91
                            9: Rivers 90
                            10: Flacco/Ryan 89
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                            • The JareBear
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                              • Jul 2010
                              • 11572

                              #59
                              Re: Madden NFL 16 Player Ratings - Top 5 Quarterbacks

                              I have no issue with manning dropping of the top 5. I've watched every game he's played in a Broncos uniform. The guy is amazing but at this point there are just a lot of throws he can't physically make.
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                              • ChaseB
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                                • Oct 2003
                                • 9678

                                #60
                                Re: Madden NFL 16 Player Ratings - Top 5 Quarterbacks

                                Originally posted by MelR2000
                                Guess who had the best QBR last season ?That would be Tony Romo .
                                Originally posted by Batum Shaka Laka
                                Romo's absence is a joke - he's treated differently year to year than everyone else is.

                                As a longtime Pac 12 (10) fan there's no way Luck deserves a 95 throw power.

                                91 tops
                                Originally posted by talucchesi
                                Romo better be sixth here. Perception is truly reality when it comes to sports.

                                Not quite sure how Big Ben is ahead of him, living off of his rings I see.

                                I can see Peyton being over Romo, I'd accept that.
                                Originally posted by Letemburn
                                Romo had highest qb rating last year and was excellent. No way Big Ben deserves too 5 over Romo.
                                Roethlisberger is playing better now than he did when he was winning those rings, for what it's worth. The offense has changed and he's throwing way more as well. Pittsburgh also had the best pass offense in the NFL last year by DVOA.

                                I'm a Romo fan, but let's not just push by the fact that Romo had the third best rushing offense by DVOA last year and arguably the best offensive line as well. He got a chance to put up more efficient numbers because the Cowboys finally ran the proper offense and got him protection. Romo's lack of clutch stats and "choking" and all that are mostly fiction, so again, I'm defending the guy overall, but let's be reasonable at the same time.

                                Andrew Luck meanwhile had a bad offensive line, takes more hits than seems possible, had a rushing offense ranked 27th by DVOA and still put together an impressive year for a guy still on his rookie contract.

                                Originally posted by JKSportsGamer1984
                                Luck is a little overrated. Not sure if he's top 5 just yet. Still throws too many pics. On the other hand, Russell Wilson is severely underrated smh. Not saying he's top 5 but he's close. His awareness is arguably the best in the league.
                                I like Wilson a lot, but I hope you're not saying you would take Russ over Luck. Wilson is part of the best rushing attack in the NFL, Luck is the entire offense for the Colts.
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