Madden NFL 16 Player Ratings - Top 6 Quarterbacks

[AP 17]

This notion that anyone can accurately decrypt 2000 players into 50 ratings categories is ridiculous. An NFL scout couldn't give a breakdown to the precise number. The madden Ratings scale has been in existence for decades. Also a 99 is just a 99 for this particular title, it doesn't mean they are supposing that Aaron Rodgers is the GOAT. He certainly is however the best QB today, probably the best player in the NFL, hence his rating. We do not need Dan, EA has done just fine. And lastly, if u don't like EA's ratings, they allow u to EDIT!!! But if u think these FGB ratings are more accurate than EA, clearly u are just drinking the kool-aid. After seeing his top 5 QB's, u can take his rosters and put them in the toilet.

[Sheba2011]

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Here's the thing with Tony Romo (way I see it, anyway):

I can never understand the Tony Romo hate. The guy is one of the best QB's in the league but for years had the misfortune of playing with some of the worst defenses in the NFL. I used to always laugh when the Cowboys would lose 54-48 (or whatever it was) and all the blame would be on Romo for throwing a late game INT. No one would even mention the defense giving up 50. The guy has averaged almost 4000 yards and 28 TD's a season for his career (when adjusting for him only playing 6 games in 2010). Not many guys in the NFL can say that. I don't think he is a top 5 QB but I respect the hell out of the guy and think he is a lot better than people give him credit for.

[Sheba2011]

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This notion that anyone can accurately decrypt 2000 players into 50 ratings categories is ridiculous. An NFL scout couldn't give a breakdown to the precise number. The madden Ratings scale has been in existence for decades. Also a 99 is just a 99 for this particular title, it doesn't mean they are supposing that Aaron Rodgers is the GOAT. He certainly is however the best QB today, probably the best player in the NFL, hence his rating. We do not need Dan, EA has done just fine. And lastly, if u don't like EA's ratings, they allow u to EDIT!!! But if u think these FGB ratings are more accurate than EA, clearly u are just drinking the kool-aid. After seeing his top 5 QB's, u can take his rosters and put them in the toilet.

His ratings allow for the game to play more accurately to the real NFL. You should actually try them before you talk crap about them. And JJ Watt is the best player in the NFL.

[Number999]

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This notion that anyone can accurately decrypt 2000 players into 50 ratings categories is ridiculous. An NFL scout couldn't give a breakdown to the precise number. The madden Ratings scale has been in existence for decades. Also a 99 is just a 99 for this particular title, it doesn't mean they are supposing that Aaron Rodgers is the GOAT. He certainly is however the best QB today, probably the best player in the NFL, hence his rating. We do not need Dan, EA has done just fine. And lastly, if u don't like EA's ratings, they allow u to EDIT!!! But if u think these FGB ratings are more accurate than EA, clearly u are just drinking the kool-aid. After seeing his top 5 QB's, u can take his rosters and put them in the toilet.

No one's debating if EA can do it accurately, it just gets boring having the numbers for all these guys not mean anything at the end of the day. The actual on product gameplay is what matters, and it's quite clear that for people who want a simulation experience while having and enjoyable one as well are huge fans of the FGB ratings. It's this kind of thinking that EA doesn't need help that leads to micro-changes through a whole year's cycle.

[FaceMask]

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Now this is going too far haha.

Yeah, except it's not. Aaron Rodgers had 3 bad regular season games, Romo only had 2. Romo statistically had a better playoff season as well: higher completion percentage, better QB rating, no INT's.

Aaron Rodgers wasn't even the best player in football to begin with. JJ Watt was, and had the Texans made the playoffs Watt would've been the NFL MVP.

Romo played with no back last year if we're being 100% fair

Add that to Romo's case.

[DCEBB2001]

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His ratings allow for the game to play more accurately to the real NFL. You should actually try them before you talk crap about them. And JJ Watt is the best player in the NFL.

http://www.fbgratings.com/members/top50.php

Yup, I have JJ on top, too.

[DCEBB2001]

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This notion that anyone can accurately decrypt 2000 players into 50 ratings categories is ridiculous. An NFL scout couldn't give a breakdown to the precise number. The madden Ratings scale has been in existence for decades. Also a 99 is just a 99 for this particular title, it doesn't mean they are supposing that Aaron Rodgers is the GOAT. He certainly is however the best QB today, probably the best player in the NFL, hence his rating. We do not need Dan, EA has done just fine. And lastly, if u don't like EA's ratings, they allow u to EDIT!!! But if u think these FGB ratings are more accurate than EA, clearly u are just drinking the kool-aid. After seeing his top 5 QB's, u can take his rosters and put them in the toilet.

Actually, NFL scouts DO have the ability to break down MORE than 50 categories for NFL players. There are as many as 15 different categories for 8 different position groups and . That's 120 different attributes for any NFL player if you do things the way that Madden does (having all attributes for all players regardless of position). Scouts have that ability. If you want me to list them all, I will, just to prove you wrong. They have been, and likely always will be, able to break down a precise number for any and all players that they grade.

What FBG does is simply interpolate the raw scouting data. Read the FAQ page for more info on that and get educated.

[Yukon46]

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This notion that anyone can accurately decrypt 2000 players into 50 ratings categories is ridiculous. An NFL scout couldn't give a breakdown to the precise number. The madden Ratings scale has been in existence for decades. Also a 99 is just a 99 for this particular title, it doesn't mean they are supposing that Aaron Rodgers is the GOAT. He certainly is however the best QB today, probably the best player in the NFL, hence his rating. We do not need Dan, EA has done just fine. And lastly, if u don't like EA's ratings, they allow u to EDIT!!! But if u think these FGB ratings are more accurate than EA, clearly u are just drinking the kool-aid. After seeing his top 5 QB's, u can take his rosters and put them in the toilet.

Someone is drinking some Kool-Aid, that is for sure. Some EA Kool-Aid.

First... EA does not use a real system, that is evident.... and why so many people argue against the ratings.... some make no sense whatsoever.
And for decades ? Not even close.

And in the FBG system, Rodgers is by far the best QB.... what is your argument ?

The CFM's are setup to repeat the over-rated base roster....you can NOT Edit that.

Keep playing on that 75-99 rating scale.......
so every player feels and plays the same...

[coogrfan]

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http://www.fbgratings.com/members/top50.php

Yup, I have JJ on top, too.

http://www.fbgratings.com/members/ratings.php?genpos=QB

I would love to hear how FBG arrived at the conclusion that Romo is the 16th best QB in the league, behind the likes of Stafford, Kaepernick, Foles and Alex Smith.

[DCEBB2001]

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http://www.fbgratings.com/members/ratings.php?genpos=QB

I would love to hear how FBG arrived at the conclusion that Romo is the 16th best QB in the league, behind the likes of Stafford, Kaepernick, Foles and Alex Smith.

First of all, it wasn't me who gave him that grade. This scouting department did.

He is currently on an injury hold of 0.5 (likely because of his back). That has modified his overall grade from an 8.06 to a 6.35. If you remove the injury hold, he jumps up to #4 overall.

[briz1046]

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First of all, it wasn't me who gave him that grade. This scouting department did.

He is currently on an injury hold of 0.5 (likely because of his back). That has modified his overall grade from an 8.06 to a 6.35. If you remove the injury hold, he jumps up to #4 overall.

This is just a suggestion so feel free to ignore it but whilst I understand the purpose of injury/ suspension factors in real life , I feel for the purposes of madden rosters their inclusion is unnecessary at least in base rosters
Maybe an injury designation and a bracketed suggested
minus figure or similar would better suite to avoid confusion?
Just a suggestion, but I feel this would help those of us who use your site for editing our own rosters

[charter04]

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This notion that anyone can accurately decrypt 2000 players into 50 ratings categories is ridiculous. An NFL scout couldn't give a breakdown to the precise number. The madden Ratings scale has been in existence for decades. Also a 99 is just a 99 for this particular title, it doesn't mean they are supposing that Aaron Rodgers is the GOAT. He certainly is however the best QB today, probably the best player in the NFL, hence his rating. We do not need Dan, EA has done just fine. And lastly, if u don't like EA's ratings, they allow u to EDIT!!! But if u think these FGB ratings are more accurate than EA, clearly u are just drinking the kool-aid. After seeing his top 5 QB's, u can take his rosters and put them in the toilet.

So the game plays like a way to fast arcade game where there is not much difference of teams because EA rates to many players 90 overall or higher and half the league with 90+ speed but, EA has done just fine? Lol Ok.

Plus how are we going to edit online ranked games or an online CFM where we just have to use the current roster available?


How is EA's way of rating players accurate? How do they decide how to rate players?

[charter04]

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Also guys to caught up in the overall with EA's and FBG rosters. You really have to look at the actual ratings. The way EA's overall rating works gives too much or to little weight to certain attributes.

[GameBreaker35]

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Some of the critics of Dan's system I will just never understand. The way the rating system is now, there are only three tiers of players. There are C grade players (70 - 79), there are B grade players (80 -89), and finally the elite A grade players (90-99). Basically, that is it. That is very far from how real scouts grade players as Dan will point out to you. Many of you are comparing Madden ratings to educational grading systems used in the U.S. (I.E. <60 = Failing). FBG ratings are not set up that way though, and 60 is actually a pretty competent starter with ratings. What Dan's system does is compare REAL data form REAL people who make REAL money rating REAL players in the REAL NFL today - meaning they know more about player rating than you, me, Dan, and especially EA Sports.

So what many of you are trying to say is that you know more about player rating than the scouts that do this for a living at the highest level of the sport. That is what really gets me more than anything.

[DCEBB2001]

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This is just a suggestion so feel free to ignore it but whilst I understand the purpose of injury/ suspension factors in real life , I feel for the purposes of madden rosters their inclusion is unnecessary at least in base rosters
Maybe an injury designation and a bracketed suggested
minus figure or similar would better suite to avoid confusion?
Just a suggestion, but I feel this would help those of us who use your site for editing our own rosters

Here is the issue:

The attribute grades are not affected by the injury/suspension modifier. Waht is affected is the OVR grade only. However, since EA works with this darn OVR in their game, I have to have it. When a player's OVR changes during the course of the season, I don't have access to the data that tells me WHY it is changing, just that it IS changing (either + or -). The large data dump I get every offseason is the only time I get everything (because the attributes don't really change in value a ton, just the production or injury modifiers).

The result is that I have to stick to the OVR score to show that players are either getting better or getting worse, knowing full well that it is more than likely that the attributes are not immediately changing, but instead their production values are changing (incrementally during the season).

What you will typically see, is that once players get back to playing (and not in the offseason like now), the injury modifiers will go away or will be greatly diminished.

All of this leaves us with 2 options:

1. You include the production and injury modifiers in real time to reflect accurate changes in a player's ability and adhere to the OVR.

2. You don't include the modifiers and rate players only based upon their attributes and disregard the OVR.


I tried number 2 in the past and people complained...LOUDLY because the formulas for how the scouts determine a good player are so different from how EA does it.

If I rated Wes Welker by just his attributes, his grade is 5.83 according to the scouting formula. But if I rate him just by his attributes and throw him into Madden, his OVR would like 56 instead of 76. Why? The formulas in EA's system are so different from that of the scouting data. The attributes are weighted differently.

What I would really need to do, is make the scouting formulas be equal to those in Madden, and I would have to be on the team to have a snowball's chance at that. Until then, the compromise is that I attempt to meet the scouting OVR grade by minimally manipulating some of the attribute grades in Madden to reach the desired overall (we are talking about a couple of points one way or the other).


As you can see, the situation is far from simple to explain and fix.