Madden NFL 16 Player Ratings - Top 5 Tight Ends

[guppya]

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I don't think the ratings are a market issue. Your casual madden player isn't going to search for ratings, they'll just want to play with their team and new players.

If in the off season, they highlight and market other aspects of the game, this is a non-issue. Instead they give us 3 weeks od ratings drops, by top on position, then by division, and drag it out.

If instead, they did small deep dives on each new feature they put in the game, or released compiled gameplay of each team for 3 weeks, then I think they'd have a better chance getting over the ratings objection.

The casual gamer isn't going to base his purchase off of what overall Gronk is lol.

Also, keeping overalls down will truly separate elite from good from average, to bad, to terrible.

Of course it matters its part of visual appeal. Why do you think marketing plays a part in affecting player ratings? If a fan sees that Gronkowski is rated an 82, they will obviously criticize the game.

Nobody wants too see their favorite player rated low.

Not every player is a hardcore madden player like on this forum. There has to be a compromise.

[VdaStampede]

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You won't find too many out there who love Gronk more than I do, but a 99 is simply absurd. The released ratings are working against a Madden purchase for me right now.

From what I've seen so far I'm going to have drop every Pats rating by 20 or 30 for a rebuilding challenge

Marshall = 8.35 grade
Gronk = 8.18 grade


That's why.

I agree with much of what you have to offer, but this right here is where you lose me. You just can't make an argument in any way that Marshall is a better player or that Watt should be rated so much higher

[neume1mb]

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Madden has 1-100 scale but the average player is like 83 on these games, instead of being in the 50's. So really madden uses like a 1-40 scale. For the life of me I don't understand why they don't use the whole scale.

[guppya]

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No. What is realistic is to keep the gap in the total score provided by the data in Madden, not to fudge the data to replicate Madden.

Data --> Madden

NOT

Madden --> Data

This whole point is to show that a guy like Watt is still WAY ABOVE the level of a guy like Gronk (99 to 82). I'm sorry if you can't wrap your brain around that, but the data doesn't lie.

So based on the data you collected, Brandon Marshall should be rated better than Gronkowski. It has nothing to do with madden, I cant wrap my head around that as nobody would rate Marshall better than gronkowski.

Theres no point in the ratings if you cant differentiate that gronk should be rated higher than marshall.

[Kodii Rockets]

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Of course it matters its part of visual appeal. Why do you think marketing plays a part in affecting player ratings? If a fan sees that Gronkowski is rated an 82, they will obviously criticize the game.

Nobody wants too see their favorite player rated low.

Not every player is a hardcore madden player like on this forum. There has to be a compromise.

You made your point there, his rosters aren't for casuals. They're for guys who'd rather play the closest thing we can get to a sim game without staring at numbers.

Personally, I'd love to see my favorite player rated low if it meant that it would help the gameplay overall. Just my .02

[jshake8]

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Marshall = 8.35 grade
Gronk = 8.18 grade


That's why.

Dude, I'm not attacking you, I'm trying to understand how on any planet anyone could think the one player is better than the other. For a person trying to get his ratings recognition, you're being a bit of a D.

[jshake8]

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You made your point there, his rosters aren't for casuals. They're for guys who'd rather play the closest thing we can get to a sim game without staring at numbers.

Personally, I'd love to see my favorite player rated low if it meant that it would help the gameplay overall. Just my .02

The problem here is that the ratings are wrong.

[guppya]

Re: Madden 16 Player Ratings - Top 5 TEs Revealed

No. What is realistic is to keep the gap in the total score provided by the data in Madden, not to fudge the data to replicate Madden.

Data --> Madden

NOT

Madden --> Data

This whole point is to show that a guy like Watt is still WAY ABOVE the level of a guy like Gronk (99 to 82). I'm sorry if you can't wrap your brain around that, but the data doesn't lie.

Also you say that the whole point is to show that certain players are "WAY ABOVE" others

Is Tom Brady really 18 points above Roethlisberger? The gap is simply too high.

[guppya]

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You made your point there, his rosters aren't for casuals. They're for guys who'd rather play the closest thing we can get to a sim game without staring at numbers.

Personally, I'd love to see my favorite player rated low if it meant that it would help the gameplay overall. Just my .02

I understand his roster is not for casuals. Thats my entire point, do you honestly believe that EA would throw away all of their ratings and just take these numbers as the way to go where Brandon Marshall is an 87?

That would be crazy.

[DCEBB2001]

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Not every player is a hardcore madden player like on this forum. There has to be a compromise.

That's why EA should just make everyone a 99 in everything so everyone is happy.

Or...

They can get real(istic).

OR...

Allow us to edit draft classes and rosters easier.

[DCEBB2001]

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You won't find too many out there who love Gronk more than I do, but a 99 is simply absurd. The released ratings are working against a Madden purchase for me right now.

From what I've seen so far I'm going to have drop every Pats rating by 20 or 30 for a rebuilding challenge

I agree with much of what you have to offer, but this right here is where you lose me. You just can't make an argument in any way that Marshall is a better player or that Watt should be rated so much higher

I don't make the argument. The scouts do. I just interpolate the data. Keep in mind the injury holds when you do this. Be sure to read the FAQ page on the website.

[DCEBB2001]

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So based on the data you collected, Brandon Marshall should be rated better than Gronkowski. It has nothing to do with madden, I cant wrap my head around that as nobody would rate Marshall better than gronkowski.

Theres no point in the ratings if you cant differentiate that gronk should be rated higher than marshall.

I just did differentiate it. I gave you the actual total grade for each. Take it or leave it.

[Number999]

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I understand his roster is not for casuals. Thats my entire point, do you honestly believe that EA would throw away all of their ratings and just take these numbers as the way to go where Brandon Marshall is an 87?

That would be crazy.

"throw away" like they have some sort of in-depth formula in the first place. I'm pretty sure you could find 5 OS users who have enough free time and do basically exactly what they've done with ratings. You're merely picking one flaw in a highly regarded system of ratings by plucking out Brandon Marshall and other outliers. You don't think that hey maybe they could fudge Marshall a little bit so he isn't all the way up there? Damn dude.

[guppya]

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That's why EA should just make everyone a 99 in everything so everyone is happy.

Or...

They can get real(istic).

OR...

Allow us to edit draft classes and rosters easier.

Stop trying to be arrogant, thats why I wrote comprimise. If you honestly dont see the flaw in your system that has Marshall Rated higher than Gronk, then you cant accept criticism.

The ratings are there to differentiate between their NFL ranking. Whatever your data says, how can you sit there and say that Marshall is a better football player than Gronkowski.

[jshake8]

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I just did differentiate it. I gave you the actual total grade for each. Take it or leave it.

Do you realize that those numbers are crazy? Or are you just blindly supporting the data? Have you watched those 2 players over the past year?

If you can't at least explain this stuff with anything more than scouting numbers, why should anyone take it seriously? You're just going to post numbers that mean nothing to anyone, and say take it or leave it? Sorry dude, but you're losing my support.