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  • TripleCrown9
    Keep the Faith
    • May 2010
    • 23698

    #31
    Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

    Originally posted by cadalyst17
    Our society is becoming more panzy oversensitive liberal everyday. Heaven help us :-(
    Ah, so you must be perfectly fine with what he said.
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    • cadalyst17
      Rookie
      • Jul 2004
      • 252

      #32
      ummmm...let me educate some people in here. Saying the "N" word does not in of itself make you racist. Racism is when you deem another ethnicity inferior to yours based on color.
      Last edited by cadalyst17; 07-25-2015, 02:22 PM.

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      • J_Posse
        Greatness Personified
        • Jun 2005
        • 11255

        #33
        Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

        Originally posted by cadalyst17
        Our society is becoming more panzy oversensitive liberal everyday. Heaven help us :-(
        I don't think it is a matter of "pansy, liberalism" but more so a company trying to protect its brand/image in a time of hyper scrutiny - which this isn't because all the scorn toward Hogan is deserved - towards anything considered demeaning towards minorities, women, etc.

        ummmm...let me educate some white people in here. Saying the "N" word does not in of itself make you racist. Racism is when you deem another ethnicity inferior to yours based on color.
        Hogan (allegedly) says that he is in fact a racist on the video recording. He brought this entire thing upon himself.
        Last edited by J_Posse; 07-25-2015, 02:24 PM.
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        • cadalyst17
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          • Jul 2004
          • 252

          #34
          Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

          [QUOTE=J_Posse;2047519314]in a time of hyper scrutiny/QUOTE]

          Exactly! and why the hyper scrutiny

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          • cadalyst17
            Rookie
            • Jul 2004
            • 252

            #35
            Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

            [QUOTE=J_Posse;2047519324]
            Originally posted by cadalyst17

            We live in the internet age where issues like this one can destroy lives and careers quickly.
            The internet is not to blame. It's the self righteous attitude in today's society that makes the internet a dangerous thing

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            • aholbert32
              (aka Alberto)
              • Jul 2002
              • 33106

              #36
              Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

              Originally posted by J_Posse
              Interesting article that paints Ty Cobb in a light different than what has been shed over the years.



              Never said that Hogan made a mistake or these aren't his own personal feelings. He obviously harbors a lot of racist/bigoted feelings towards African Americans and that is sad and pathetic.

              What I am saying is that for once we should try and examine what has led him to harboring such thoughts (through counseling and other means). While using this situation as a why to try and educate young fans about the ills of bigotry and racism. You can't defeat racism - which will never likely go away - or lessen its impact by ignoring it which is what people always want to do.

              Firing him and pushing the issue under the rug, especially in an industry like wrestling where stereotypes and negative portrayals of minorities are rampant, leads to nothing of significance. He goes away in the corner, like he has in the past, and returns in a few years when the media storm has died down. Yet, I also understand that WWE is a corporate entity and needs to look out for their best interest (meaning money) so keeping him around would hurt that greatly.
              Firing him isnt pushing the issue under the rug. Making him go through counseling and doing public speaking IS. By firing him, WWE is make a clear stance that we arent going to employ people who hold those beliefs and we arent going to have people who affiliated with the company who are known to have those beliefs.

              Also it hits him in his wallet and he is seen as a pariah for a while. As a black man, I'd rather see that then him go through bull**** counseling and get championed as a changed man once he's through with that.

              Hogan is a 50 yr old man who has interacted with thousands of minorities during his career either as fans or colleagues. If those interactions arent enough to sway him from using bigoted/racist terms...counseling wont either.

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              • aholbert32
                (aka Alberto)
                • Jul 2002
                • 33106

                #37
                Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

                Originally posted by cadalyst17
                Our society is becoming more panzy oversensitive liberal everyday. Heaven help us :-(
                Politics is against the TOS. Please cease from trying to make this a political issue or you will be banned...Thanks.

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                • aholbert32
                  (aka Alberto)
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 33106

                  #38
                  Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

                  [QUOTE=cadalyst17;2047519333]
                  Originally posted by J_Posse

                  The internet is not to blame. It's the self righteous attitude in today's society that makes the internet a dangerous thing
                  I'm dumbfounded that people are defending an admitted racist who used a racial slur and trying to blame it on society.

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                  • cadalyst17
                    Rookie
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 252

                    #39
                    Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

                    Originally posted by SmashMan
                    Come on. Don't be that guy here.
                    ho let things

                    What guy? a realist. My friend, I am black and I have seen our society become so self righteous. I watch my people become hypocrites when we say "N" word or when we call white people names and receive zero retribution. Our culture is so oversensitive and double standard. I miss when men were men :-(

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                    • TripleCrown9
                      Keep the Faith
                      • May 2010
                      • 23698

                      #40
                      Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

                      Originally posted by cadalyst17
                      ho let things

                      What guy? a realist. My friend, I am black and I have seen our society become so self righteous. I watch my people become hypocrites when we say "N" word or when we call white people names and receive zero retribution. Our culture is so oversensitive and double standard. I miss when men were men :-(
                      I have absolutely no idea what this means.
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                      • aholbert32
                        (aka Alberto)
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 33106

                        #41
                        Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

                        Originally posted by cadalyst17
                        ho let things

                        What guy? a realist. My friend, I am black and I have seen our society become so self righteous. I watch my people become hypocrites when we say "N" word or when we call white people names and receive zero retribution. Our culture is so oversensitive and double standard. I miss when men were men :-(
                        "Become self righteous"? Because people are OK with an admitted racist losing his job? How does that make me less of a man?

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                        • J_Posse
                          Greatness Personified
                          • Jun 2005
                          • 11255

                          #42
                          Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

                          Originally posted by aholbert32
                          Firing him isnt pushing the issue under the rug. Making him go through counseling and doing public speaking IS. By firing him, WWE is make a clear stance that we arent going to employ people who hold those beliefs and we arent going to have people who affiliated with the company who are known to have those beliefs.

                          Also it hits him in his wallet and he is seen as a pariah for a while. As a black man, I'd rather see that then him go through bull**** counseling and get championed as a changed man once he's through with that.

                          Hogan is a 50 yr old man who has interacted with thousands of minorities during his career either as fans or colleagues. If those interactions arent enough to sway him from using bigoted/racist terms...counseling wont either.
                          I'm not racist so I don't know what can cause change in their thought pattern, but I do know that racists can be reformed. People may take the apology and rehabilitation as disingenuous or bull****, but then again what about people like Michael Vick and Riley Cooper?

                          Aren't "awful" people offered a second chance throughout the history of our culture? Again, Hogan is a despicable person for saying such vile things about African American men/people but that doesn't mean he can't change. Or that he can't help someone else heading down a similar path of thought.
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                          • aholbert32
                            (aka Alberto)
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 33106

                            #43
                            Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

                            Originally posted by J_Posse
                            I'm not racist so I don't know what can cause change in their thought pattern, but I do know that racists can be reformed. People may take the apology and rehabilitation as disingenuous or bull****, but then again what about people like Michael Vick and Riley Cooper?

                            Aren't "awful" people offered a second chance throughout the history of our culture? Again, Hogan is a despicable person for saying such vile things about African American men/people but that doesn't mean he can't change. Or that he can't help someone else heading down a similar path of thought.
                            I think Riley Cooper is still a racist. I dont recall Vick doing anything racist (it was all dogfighting I though).

                            There is actually a difference between Cooper and Hogan imo. Cooper's comments were brought on by anger. He wanted to get backstage at a concert, was drunk and a black security guard wouldnt let him backstage. So he flipped out and called the security guard a racist slur.

                            Hogan was at home and relaxing with a woman he was sleeping with. What he said and the way he said it was matter of fact. It wasnt emotional. He was describing the situation with his daughter and he was stating an opinion.

                            Neither situation is right and neither is really forgivable in my opinion. Its been two years since the incident and you wont catch me wearing a Riley Cooper jersey. Just like I wont buy a Hulk Rules shirt.

                            Finally, I just find it hard to believe that a 50 yr old man with as much life experience as Hogan is all of a sudden going to see the light and not harbor those thoughts anymore.

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                            • oneamongthefence
                              Nothing to see here folks
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 5683

                              #44
                              Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

                              I can't blame wwe for letting him go but it's also the most cultural insensitive companies of all time. Hassan and Daivari. Hornswaggle. La resistance. The boogeyman. And those are the last decade.

                              This is not a test.
                              Because I live in van down by the river...

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                              • aholbert32
                                (aka Alberto)
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 33106

                                #45
                                Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

                                Originally posted by oneamongthefence
                                I can't blame wwe for letting him go but it's also the most cultural insensitive companies of all time. Hassan and Daivari. Hornswaggle. La resistance. The boogeyman. And those are the last decade.

                                This is not a test.
                                Akeem. Slick, Kamala....

                                But thats also one of the reasons why the WWE had to fire Hogan. Can you imagine the backlash if they wouldve kept Hogan given its history.

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