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  • ZB9
    Hall Of Fame
    • Nov 2004
    • 18387

    #46
    Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

    Hogan was in the middle of one large narcotics binge when he said those things. That is not an excuse however. Let this be a lesson to you kids, stay away from the narcotics mmkay.

    but maybe it was Thunderlips who said those things and not Hulk?

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    • ZB9
      Hall Of Fame
      • Nov 2004
      • 18387

      #47
      Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

      Originally posted by aholbert32
      There is actually a difference between Cooper and Hogan imo. Cooper's comments were brought on by anger. He wanted to get backstage at a concert, was drunk and a black security guard wouldnt let him backstage. So he flipped out and called the security guard a racist slur.
      I dont know how to compare it to Cooper, but Hogan had just gone through a bad divorce. His family was falling apart and he became addicted to drugs and alcohol. He was supposedly suicidal during 2008 and was not exactly mentally healthy during that particular time. He has stated repeatedly that he has since given up alcohol and drugs, found Christianity and has been trying to clean his life up. That is not an excuse for Hogan, he still has to answer for his actions, but i dont see how Cooper's actions are more forgivable than Hogan's.
      Last edited by ZB9; 07-25-2015, 03:26 PM.

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      • J_Posse
        Greatness Personified
        • Jun 2005
        • 11255

        #48
        Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

        Originally posted by aholbert32
        I think Riley Cooper is still a racist. I dont recall Vick doing anything racist (it was all dogfighting I though).

        There is actually a difference between Cooper and Hogan imo. Cooper's comments were brought on by anger. He wanted to get backstage at a concert, was drunk and a black security guard wouldnt let him backstage. So he flipped out and called the security guard a racist slur.

        Hogan was at home and relaxing with a woman he was sleeping with. What he said and the way he said it was matter of fact. It wasnt emotional. He was describing the situation with his daughter and he was stating an opinion.

        Neither situation is right and neither is really forgivable in my opinion. Its been two years since the incident and you wont catch me wearing a Riley Cooper jersey. Just like I wont buy a Hulk Rules shirt.

        Finally, I just find it hard to believe that a 50 yr old man with as much life experience as Hogan is all of a sudden going to see the light and not harbor those thoughts anymore.
        I can respect that you, on an individual level, aren't a forgiving (or easily forgiving) person but as a whole society can't operate that way.

        And much like Michael Vick - the level of animal cruelty he displayed during that period of dog fighting (which is illegal) can't be dismissed- and (again) Riley Cooper or John Rocker, Hogan should try and rehabilitate his image while also seeking counseling to figure out why he has such deep seeded hatred of Black people.

        We as people can either accept the apology or not. We'll have to see how it goes from here and how much worse the other video recordings are.

        His legacy is severely tarnished by all of this and many, many people will never, ever either respect or like him as person or wrestler. Yet, his accomplishments can never be truly "erased" because he essentially was the WWE during the 1980's. Like I stated earlier, I'm disgusted and saddened that a childhood hero could say such vile things and harbor these sort of feelings.

        He owes every person he's ever worked with in or outside of the ring of Black descent a sincere and heartfelt apology. Not some bull**** statement read to the media.
        Last edited by J_Posse; 07-25-2015, 03:31 PM.
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        • redsox4evur
          Hall Of Fame
          • Jul 2013
          • 18169

          #49
          Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

          Originally posted by oneamongthefence
          I can't blame wwe for letting him go but it's also the most cultural insensitive companies of all time. Hassan and Daivari. Hornswaggle. La resistance. The boogeyman. And those are the last decade.

          This is not a test.
          What's wrong with The Boogeyman and Hornswoggle? I see those as fictitious characters the boogeyman and a leprechaun. Never really thought those were racist.
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          • countryboy
            Growing pains
            • Sep 2003
            • 52785

            #50
            Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

            Whether Hogan is in the game or not, I could careless as I've never been a fan of his. The only thing I hope is that his music is somehow still in the game, although I highly doubt, since I have a created wrestler that uses his music.
            I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

            I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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            • TripleCrown9
              Keep the Faith
              • May 2010
              • 23696

              #51
              Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

              Originally posted by redsox4evur
              What's wrong with The Boogeyman and Hornswoggle? I see those as fictitious characters the boogeyman and a leprechaun. Never really thought those were racist.
              In the sense of the way they use/used Hornswoggle, it was insensitive to the Irish.
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              • aholbert32
                (aka Alberto)
                • Jul 2002
                • 33106

                #52
                Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

                Originally posted by J_Posse
                I can respect that you, on an individual level, aren't a forgiving (or easily forgiving) person but as a whole society can't operate that way.

                And much like Michael Vick - the level of animal cruelty he displayed during that period of dog fighting (which is illegal) can't be dismissed- and (again) Riley Cooper or John Rocker, Hogan should try and rehabilitate his image while also seeking counseling to figure out why he has such deep seeded hatred of Black people.

                We as people can either accept the apology or not. We'll have to see how it goes from here and how much worse the other video recordings are.

                His legacy is severely tarnished by all of this and many, many people will never, ever either respect or like him as person or wrestler. Yet, his accomplishments can never be truly "erased" because he essentially was the WWE during the 1980's. Like I stated earlier, I'm disgusted and saddened that a childhood hero could say such vile things and harbor these sort of feelings.

                He owes every person he's ever worked with in or outside of the ring of Black descent a sincere and heartfelt apology. Not some bull**** statement read to the media.
                Why cant the black community (the community thats been offended) operate that way? Why do we have to forgive Hogan or Rocker or Coope?. Honesty, I dont think the black community has forgiven Rocker or Cooper at all. They are still used as examples of racist athletes. No one references their apologies or rehabilitation.

                Now their black teammates may have forgiven them but they kind of have to because they want to keep their jobs. Just like I'm not in the position to quit my job just because one of my co-workers is racist.

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                • LingeringRegime
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 17089

                  #53
                  Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

                  I don't know what is more sad, Hogan himself in being a racist, or people here defending his actions.

                  I grew up during Hogan's popularity height, but what the dude said is absolutely inexcusable. He needs to disappear with Donald Sterling.

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                  • ZB9
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 18387

                    #54
                    Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

                    Originally posted by aholbert32
                    Why cant the black community (the community thats been offended) operate that way? Why do we have to forgive Hogan or Rocker or Coope?. Honesty, I dont think the black community has forgiven Rocker or Cooper at all. They are still used as examples of racist athletes. No one references their apologies or rehabilitation.

                    Now their black teammates may have forgiven them but they kind of have to because they want to keep their jobs. Just like I'm not in the position to quit my job just because one of my co-workers is racist.
                    Rocker didnt say anything about blacks though.

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                    • ZB9
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 18387

                      #55
                      Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

                      Originally posted by LingeringRegime
                      I don't know what is more sad, Hogan himself in being a racist, or people here defending his actions.
                      Who has defended his actions? example

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                      • mercalnd
                        MVP
                        • Oct 2004
                        • 4262

                        #56
                        Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

                        Originally posted by aholbert32
                        Finally, I just find it hard to believe that a 50 yr old man with as much life experience as Hogan is all of a sudden going to see the light and not harbor those thoughts anymore.
                        I agree with you 100% but I'd like to point out that he's actually 61. That in no way alters the point you're making but it sures makes me (and others I'm sure) feel like I'm getting old.

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                        • aholbert32
                          (aka Alberto)
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 33106

                          #57
                          Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

                          Originally posted by ZB9
                          Rocker didnt say anything about blacks though.
                          He called teammate Randall Simon (who is from Curacao but resembles a black man) a "fat monkey".

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                          • aholbert32
                            (aka Alberto)
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 33106

                            #58
                            Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

                            Originally posted by mercalnd
                            I agree with you 100% but I'd like to point out that he's actually 61. That in no way alters the point you're making but it sures makes me (and others I'm sure) feel like I'm getting old.
                            LOL. Thanks. Makes me feel old as hell too. If anything him being a decade older makes it less likely that he would change.

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                            • LingeringRegime
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 17089

                              #59
                              Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

                              Originally posted by ZB9
                              Who has defended his actions? example
                              Just read the first page in this thread.

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                              • Stormyhog
                                All Star
                                • Feb 2004
                                • 5304

                                #60
                                Re: Hulk Hogan Has Been Fired From the WWE and Will Not Appear in WWE 2K16

                                With Donald Trumps recent racial comments about mexicans how can he remain in the WWE Hall Of Fame shouldn't he be abolished as well. I guess it's different rules for different people.
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