Madden NFL 16 NFC North Team Ratings, Along with a Few More Player Ratings

[jmallymav]

Cordelle Patterson's a 73? Somebody please help me understand that?

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Cordelle Patterson's a 73? Somebody please help me understand that?

cordarrelle patterson had a subpar season last year thats why... he may not even be a starting receiver this year unless he can learn to run routes better... hes still explosive tho.

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Except the Packers have one of the best QBs ever in his prime and a much better supporting cast.

We have the best back in the league and 1 of the fastest receiving cores in the nfl and a better tightend then GB, not to mention our defense is waaaaaaaay better than GB, and the last time we swept them Aaron Rogers was the QB

[roadman]

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We have the best back in the league and 1 of the fastest receiving cores in the nfl and a better tightend then GB, not to mention our defense is waaaaaaaay better than GB, and the last time we swept them Aaron Rogers was the QB

Just hope that OL, which ranked at the bottom of the league, holds up for Bridgewater and Peterson.

[MoneyOvaHuds]

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Cordelle Patterson's a 73? Somebody please help me understand that?

He sucks - NFL players

[Godgers12]

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We have the best back in the league and 1 of the fastest receiving cores in the nfl and a better tightend then GB, not to mention our defense is waaaaaaaay better than GB, and the last time we swept them Aaron Rogers was the QB

Please stop. Packers have probably 3 WRs better than anyone the Vikings have, a HB who isn't about to decline and a much much much better OL. Not to mention your D isn't much better if at all. And the last time you swept us Favre was your QB. So you needed an exiled Packer playing QB just to beat us lol.

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Please stop. Packers have probably 3 WRs better than anyone the Vikings have a HB who isn't about to decline and a much much much better OL. Not to mention your D isn't much better if at all. And the last time you swept us Favre was your QB. So you needed an exiled Packer playing QB just to beat us lol.

Peterson isn't on a decline not even close... and we are poised to have a top 10 defense this year... you must've forgotten that your O-Line isnt that good either i remember aaron rogers sitting on his butt a few times last year. Honestly your receivers arent as good as they think, if they played for another team they wouldnt be nearly as good. So again out defense is waaaay better than yours, the only thing you have is a high powered offense, defense is subpar at best. Clay matthews oh ok cool... Our OL was hurt last year, remember we have the same O-line we had when peterson rushed for over 2000 yds and they are healthy now

[roadman]

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Peterson isn't on a decline not even close... and we are poised to have a top 10 defense this year... you must've forgotten that your O-Line isnt that good either i remember aaron rogers sitting on his butt a few times last year. Honestly your receivers arent as good as they think, if they played for another team they wouldnt be nearly as good. So again out defense is waaaay better than yours, the only thing you have is a high powered offense, defense is subpar at best. Clay matthews oh ok cool... Our OL was hurt last year, remember we have the same O-line we had when peterson rushed for over 2000 yds and they are healthy now

Now you are reaching big time.

Our OL isn't that good? Josh Sitton is an all-pro. Rodgers is on his butt because he holds onto the ball too long sometimes to make a play, not because of the OL. Last year, the team gave up 30 sacks, 2013 45 sacks. Yeah, that OL didn't improve or isn't very good.

[Godgers12]

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Peterson isn't on a decline not even close... and we are poised to have a top 10 defense this year... you must've forgotten that your O-Line isnt that good either i remember aaron rogers sitting on his butt a few times last year. Honestly your receivers arent as good as they think, if they played for another team they wouldnt be nearly as good. So again out defense is waaaay better than yours, the only thing you have is a high powered offense, defense is subpar at best. Clay matthews oh ok cool... Our OL was hurt last year, remember we have the same O-line we had when peterson rushed for over 2000 yds and they are healthy now

Packers have a top 3 OL in the NFL bud.

[grodbetatted]

Now you are reaching big time.

Our OL isn't that good? Josh Sitton is an all-pro. Rodgers is on his butt because he holds onto the ball too long sometimes to make a play, not because of the OL. Last year, the team gave up 30 sacks, 2013 45 sacks. Yeah, that OL didn't improve or isn't very good.

didnt say they didnt improve, but they arent that good at all... rogers takes sacks period, but your boy just said blasphemy. he said peterson is on a decline, he is the best for a reason. He isn't on a decline and the packers know that first hand. he puts on a show everytime we play them

[roadman]

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didnt say they didnt improve, but they arent that good at all... rogers takes sacks period, but your boy just said blasphemy. he said peterson is on a decline, he is the best for a reason. He isn't on a decline and the packers know that first hand. he puts on a show everytime we play them

You are still reaching when you state the Packers OL isn't that good at all. That means they are below mediocre and they are well above that. Not sure why you keep down playing the line with two all-pro guards, a great center and two good tackles.

Peterson hasn't played vs Matthews in the middle, either.

The Packers run D was improved over the last 9 games when Matthews moved inside.

That is a fact.

Yes, Peterson, is a beast and has been a beast vs the Packers, let's wait and see on the gridiron before declaring the trend will continue with Peterson vs the Packers.

Edit- Now, I see why you are reaching on the OL, because one Packer fan said Peterson is on the decline. I'm not ready to dig the shovel on Peterson, yet, I'll wait to see how he performs with a year off and if he can stay healthy.

[Godgers12]

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I never said AP was on a decline . Believe what I said was s9nn to be decline.

[jhigginsluckow]

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Okay, as a neutral fan who doesn't cheer for either Green Bay or Minnesota (though I do live in Wisconsin), I feel the need to clear a few things up:

1 - The Vikings are in no way, shape, or form going to win the division unless Rodgers gets hurt. The Packers have a worse defense, I agree. But their offense is likely going to be the #1 offense in the league. 12 wins at minimum. I do believe Minnesota will push for 10 wins and a possible playoff spot, and they will definitely finish ahead of Detroit (fluke last year) and Chicago (gunning for another top 8 pick).

2 - Rodgers is by far the best quarterback at this stage. Lacy is more top 8 than top 3 like another poster stated, BUT seeing as the other team's defense is always in their nickel package to defend all of Green Bay's receivers, Lacy is the perfect fit for them because he just runs over defensive backs. Davante Adams has reportedly been outplayed by Ty Montgomery in camp, so I'm not sure why someone posted Adams is their best guy and going to break out. Nelson is totally underrated, and Cobb is probably THE most dangerous slot guy in the league.

3 - One of these days, the Packers defense will be above average. They spend all sorts of resources on that side of the ball. I think using the law of averages, this is the year they get SOME sort of return on investment lol.

4 - Packers offensive line isn't top three, but it's within the top 8. Top 25%. Sitton is a stud, Linsley is top 8 already, Lang and Bulaga aren't major weaknesses. But that group isn't dominant like Dallas, for example.

5 - Peterson is not done. Forget the 30 year old "wall". It's not happening. He is not like every other running back. I mean, I get it. Shaun Alexander, Edgerin James, Larry Johnson, etc were all elite backs who hit the wall and fell off. Peterson is a completely different breed. He's the Tim Duncan of running backs. Anyone who does not take him #1 in fantasy football will regret it. He will be rushing for 1200+ yards until he's 34 at least, and I'd peg him at 1600+ this year. His speed will decline over the next couple years, but at that point he'll essentially be what Eddie Lacy is now; running fools over every play.

Packers 12-13 wins
Vikings 9-10 wins
Lions 7-8 wins
Bears 5-6 wins

Book it.

[roadman]

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Okay, as a neutral fan who doesn't cheer for either Green Bay or Minnesota (though I do live in Wisconsin), I feel the need to clear a few things up:

1 - The Vikings are in no way, shape, or form going to win the division unless Rodgers gets hurt. The Packers have a worse defense, I agree. But their offense is likely going to be the #1 offense in the league. 12 wins at minimum. I do believe Minnesota will push for 10 wins and a possible playoff spot, and they will definitely finish ahead of Detroit (fluke last year) and Chicago (gunning for another top 8 pick).

2 - Rodgers is by far the best quarterback at this stage. Lacy is more top 8 than top 3 like another poster stated, BUT seeing as the other team's defense is always in their nickel package to defend all of Green Bay's receivers, Lacy is the perfect fit for them because he just runs over defensive backs. Davante Adams has reportedly been outplayed by Ty Montgomery in camp, so I'm not sure why someone posted Adams is their best guy and going to break out. Nelson is totally underrated, and Cobb is probably THE most dangerous slot guy in the league.

3 - One of these days, the Packers defense will be above average. They spend all sorts of resources on that side of the ball. I think using the law of averages, this is the year they get SOME sort of return on investment lol.

4 - Packers offensive line isn't top three, but it's within the top 8. Top 25%. Sitton is a stud, Linsley is top 8 already, Lang and Bulaga aren't major weaknesses. But that group isn't dominant like Dallas, for example.

Packers 12-13 wins
Vikings 9-10 wins
Lions 7-8 wins
Bears 5-6 wins

Book it.

The only thing I will add, if Rodgers does get hurt, Tolzien has been playing lights out behind him. There will be a definite drop-off, but not as much when he was thrown into the fire two years ago.

[ktd1976]

Okay, as a neutral fan who doesn't cheer for either Green Bay or Minnesota (though I do live in Wisconsin), I feel the need to clear a few things up:

1 - The Vikings are in no way, shape, or form going to win the division unless Rodgers gets hurt. The Packers have a worse defense, I agree. But their offense is likely going to be the #1 offense in the league. 12 wins at minimum. I do believe Minnesota will push for 10 wins and a possible playoff spot, and they will definitely finish ahead of Detroit (fluke last year) and Chicago (gunning for another top 8 pick).

2 - Rodgers is by far the best quarterback at this stage. Lacy is more top 8 than top 3 like another poster stated, BUT seeing as the other team's defense is always in their nickel package to defend all of Green Bay's receivers, Lacy is the perfect fit for them because he just runs over defensive backs. Davante Adams has reportedly been outplayed by Ty Montgomery in camp, so I'm not sure why someone posted Adams is their best guy and going to break out. Nelson is totally underrated, and Cobb is probably THE most dangerous slot guy in the league.

3 - One of these days, the Packers defense will be above average. They spend all sorts of resources on that side of the ball. I think using the law of averages, this is the year they get SOME sort of return on investment lol.

4 - Packers offensive line isn't top three, but it's within the top 8. Top 25%. Sitton is a stud, Linsley is top 8 already, Lang and Bulaga aren't major weaknesses. But that group isn't dominant like Dallas, for example.

5 - Peterson is not done. Forget the 30 year old "wall". It's not happening. He is not like every other running back. I mean, I get it. Shaun Alexander, Edgerin James, Larry Johnson, etc were all elite backs who hit the wall and fell off. Peterson is a completely different breed. He's the Tim Duncan of running backs. Anyone who does not take him #1 in fantasy football will regret it. He will be rushing for 1200+ yards until he's 34 at least, and I'd peg him at 1600+ this year. His speed will decline over the next couple years, but at that point he'll essentially be what Eddie Lacy is now; running fools over every play.

Packers 12-13 wins
Vikings 9-10 wins
Lions 7-8 wins
Bears 5-6 wins

Book it.

The Lions Weren't a fluke last year. Top 5 defense all season long. Beat the Packers once. Losing Suh won't hurt the Lions as much as everyone thinks. The offense will be improved. If any team could possibly unseat the Packers in the north (not likely) It is the Lions, not the Vikings.....