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  • LeBron_On_Mars
    Rookie
    • Jul 2015
    • 175

    #196
    Re: Green Releases Much Rarer in NBA 2K16, No Longer 100%

    I feel like whatever they're doing to the shot meter to make it "Much Rarer in NBA 2K16, No Longer 100%" is only to counter what they can't fix with the on ball defense. So that when a ball handler zig zags to get an open shot, then misses the defender feels rewarded majority of the time.

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    • Jhawkfootball06
      Pro
      • Jul 2009
      • 560

      #197
      Re: Green Releases Much Rarer in NBA 2K16, No Longer 100%

      Originally posted by jbthegreat
      I hope Mike Wang and the 2K staff see this post. This method makes the most logical sense.
      Most logical sense? How many players are notorious for making contested shots? Kobe Bryant for example, especially with his turnaround fade. You really think he makes only 12.5% of his shots?

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      • Boilerbuzz
        D* B**rs!
        • Jul 2002
        • 5155

        #198
        Green Releases Much Rarer in NBA 2K16, No Longer 100%

        Originally posted by Jrocc23
        Yeah, I pretty much knew the reply before you said anything.
        Then you should use those special abilities and play Lotto. You won't regret it.

        First off, I said everyone has trouble defending it. Never said "NO ONE" can defend it. I say if you read my post a little better, you'll know I didn't say that.

        We know what you typed, and your message was quite clear. But if you want to backpedal from it now, then the point of your post is weakened. If this is exactly what you meant, then we are actually in agreement about how hard it is to guard. But I don't consider something HARD to do to be cheese.

        EDIT: seems we are in agreement. My bad for my initial response.

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        • jbthegreat
          Rookie
          • Sep 2010
          • 148

          #199
          Originally posted by Jhawkfootball06
          Most logical sense? How many players are notorious for making contested shots? Kobe Bryant for example, especially with his turnaround fade. You really think he makes only 12.5% of his shots?
          Did you read the post? Those are not real percentages just examples. The point is KOBE's percentages field goal percentages would matter as well as your release.

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          • Jhawkfootball06
            Pro
            • Jul 2009
            • 560

            #200
            Re: Green Releases Much Rarer in NBA 2K16, No Longer 100%

            Originally posted by jbthegreat
            Did you read the post? Those are not real percentages just examples. The point is KOBE's percentages field goal percentages would matter as well as your release.
            Ahh missed that. I like it, but don't really know how they would get that information for every single player in the NBA. And how would that play out with created players? For example your MyPlayer.

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            • jbthegreat
              Rookie
              • Sep 2010
              • 148

              #201
              Originally posted by Jhawkfootball06
              Ahh missed that. I like it, but don't really know how they would get that information for every single player in the NBA. And how would that play out with created players? For example your MyPlayer.
              The funny part is they already have it in the game. You can manually select to use real shooting percentages instead of the default method.

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              • Jhawkfootball06
                Pro
                • Jul 2009
                • 560

                #202
                Re: Green Releases Much Rarer in NBA 2K16, No Longer 100%

                Originally posted by jbthegreat
                The funny part is they already have it in the game. You can manually select to use real shooting percentages instead of the default method.
                But then that takes out any skill in shooting. Any random could pick up the game and start holstering up threes without any knowledge of his form or release and make them. That's a problem.

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                • Jrocc23
                  MVP
                  • May 2010
                  • 3216

                  #203
                  Green Releases Much Rarer in NBA 2K16, No Longer 100%

                  Originally posted by Boilerbuzz
                  Then you should use those special abilities and play Lotto. You won't regret it.




                  We know what you typed, and your message was quite clear. But if you want to backpedal from it now, then the point of your post is weakened. If this is exactly what you meant, then we are actually in agreement about how hard it is to guard. But I don't consider something HARD to do to be cheese.


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                  Obviously you don't. And how are you going to tell me what my message was lol and say I am backpedaling? If I wanted to say it was impossible, I would have. It says directly in the message "has trouble with it." And the point was everyone is having trouble simply guarding someone left to right which shouldn't be the case since you need someone to elaborate a little more for you.

                  I don't either all the time, but this is one of those cases. What cheese was impossible to stop lol? You make no sense. Was hop stepping, nano blitzes, rocket catches, people with highly successful glitch plays in madden that you could rarely stop and etc not cheese because you could stop it sometimes?

                  But you are BoilerBuzz and why I usually don't even entertain you. So, I'll stop now.
                  Last edited by Jrocc23; 08-12-2015, 12:50 PM.
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                  • jbthegreat
                    Rookie
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 148

                    #204
                    Originally posted by Jhawkfootball06
                    But then that takes out any skill in shooting. Any random could pick up the game and start holstering up threes without any knowledge of his form or release and make them. That's a problem.
                    It doesn't you still would have to have a good release and an open shot to maximize your chances of success.

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                    • stillfeelme
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 2411

                      #205
                      Re: Green Releases Much Rarer in NBA 2K16, No Longer 100%

                      Originally posted by Jhawkfootball06
                      Most logical sense? How many players are notorious for making contested shots? Kobe Bryant for example, especially with his turnaround fade. You really think he makes only 12.5% of his shots?
                      His numbers don't make sense because he is trying to use a catch all shooting mechanic to knockdown the whole league. That is not a good idea.

                      Here is Steph Curry stats from regular season:

                      When he is Very Tight contested 0-2 ft a defender is guarding him

                      Jump shot 2's he shot 11-30 for 36.7%
                      3's he shot 3-20 15%

                      When he is tightly contest 2-4 away from a defender
                      Jump shot 2's he shot 46 - 106 43.4%
                      3's he shot 73- 167 43.7%

                      When he is open 4-6 nearest defender

                      Jump shot 2's 54-125 43.2%
                      3's he shot 112-245 45.7%

                      Looking at this you can tell Curry doesn't take that many very tightly contested shots but when he does he didn't make that many of them. Also being 2ft away from Curry is basically like an open shot

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                      • Jhawkfootball06
                        Pro
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 560

                        #206
                        Re: Green Releases Much Rarer in NBA 2K16, No Longer 100%

                        Originally posted by stillfeelme
                        His numbers don't make sense because he is trying to use a catch all shooting mechanic to knockdown the whole league. That is not a good idea.

                        Here is Steph Curry stats from regular season:

                        When he is Very Tight contested 0-2 ft a defender is guarding him

                        Jump shot 2's he shot 11-30 for 36.7%
                        3's he shot 3-20 15%

                        When he is tightly contest 2-4 away from a defender
                        Jump shot 2's he shot 46 - 106 43.4%
                        3's he shot 73- 167 43.7%

                        When he is open 4-6 nearest defender

                        Jump shot 2's 54-125 43.2%
                        3's he shot 112-245 45.7%

                        Looking at this you can tell Curry doesn't take that many very tightly contested shots but when he does he didn't make that many of them. Also being 2ft away from Curry is basically like an open shot

                        http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/20193...PerMode=Totals

                        Maybe I'm missing something but that stats you provided did not match the source. Also it would have been easier to view if you just posted a picture.

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                        • stillfeelme
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 2411

                          #207
                          Re: Green Releases Much Rarer in NBA 2K16, No Longer 100%

                          Originally posted by Jhawkfootball06
                          Maybe I'm missing something but that stats you provided did not match the source. Also it would have been easier to view if you just posted a picture.


                          I didn't feel like grabbing a picture but I clicked the link and it took me to the right location you are looking at the wrong row of stats

                          You should be looking at closest defender for shots greater than 10ft. Like I said before. Curry is not shooting a bunch of highly contested shots. They are not smart shots. If someone is that close he is usually blowing by you with the handle. He creates space off the dribble and has that quick release.

                          Edit added Kobe for comparison
                          Last edited by stillfeelme; 08-12-2015, 02:02 PM.

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                          • 24ct
                            Pro
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 885

                            #208
                            Re: Green Releases Much Rarer in NBA 2K16, No Longer 100%

                            Ppl saying it's just so easy to play defense are not taking into account your player slides ALL over the place with max defender. Especially when guys side to side or dribble until they see they've 'crossed you' from some animation that has nothing to do with your actual movements.

                            Defense is a mess.

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                            • hesko
                              Pro
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 534

                              #209
                              Re: Green Releases Much Rarer in NBA 2K16, No Longer 100%

                              Originally posted by 24ct
                              Ppl saying it's just so easy to play defense are not taking into account your player slides ALL over the place with max defender. Especially when guys side to side or dribble until they see they've 'crossed you' from some animation that has nothing to do with your actual movements.

                              Defense is a mess.
                              i hope they can figure out a way to fix this for future installments. making all the players seem like they are apart of a world that has weight and gravity. the way a player turns in certain situations, etc

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                              • ruLEX$$
                                Rookie
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 43

                                #210
                                i hear alot of people complaining about the shot meter. Personally I dont find anything wrong with green releases going in all the time, its the closest thing that ive seen that actually makes it feel like shots are player controlled which is a great tool. no im not 1 of those guys dropping 70-90 points in the rec and i will never play with a demi. Only thing thats wrong with the shot meter is it shouldnt just reflect shot timing it should also depend on how well you are defended and floor spacing, also the type of shot you are taking.

                                Another complaint im always hearing is that dribble moves are to overpowered giving the shooter too much of an advantage. IMO that too is false, i know alot feel the defense is broken well im not one of them. Dont get me wrong i believe the D should be fine tuned but it works. I actually take pride in my ability to play incredible lock down Defense. ive only witnessed a small percentage that can play great D on 2K but i know they took the time to master the controls and not complain. Of course shots will be made you cant stop everything. In the NBA great Offense will always trump great defense bc the offense is on the attack

                                i suggest Everyone complaining all the time to just learn the controls and practice practice practice...

                                in the the league its the players who take time over the summer to train with certain ability coaches like post , shooting , dribbling, and strength trainers that elevate their game every year. So if someone takes the time to learn certain dribble moves, and timing of shots, and where certain shots fall easier because you are a right handed or left handed shooter they should not be penalized. To me its not cheese its called being a gym rat and learning how to manipulate animation to work for you,
                                COMPLAINERS JUST LEARN HOW TO PLAY

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