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  • OTCU
    Banned
    • Sep 2012
    • 229

    #1

    Freelance/Off Ball movement in the game is terrible

    Thousands of times while playing this game I will have a player open in the corner on the fastbreak and he unnecessarily cuts and my pass gets intercepted.
    Also whenever I try to post a certain player up I have to reset like 6 times because a player will run right in front of him due to Da Czars new freelance system.
    Hopefully this is fixed in 2k16
  • b1baller
    Rookie
    • Sep 2004
    • 176

    #2
    Re: Freelance/Off Ball movement in the game is terrible

    Mike Wang commented saying that player movement is going to be different. I don't know what the actually quote was though. I do hope that it improves as well, in or realistic way.
    Last edited by b1baller; 08-12-2015, 05:29 PM.
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    • Andrews
      Rookie
      • Oct 2011
      • 262

      #3
      Re: Freelance/Off Ball movement in the game is terrible

      Try calling Punch plays for your post ups and you will see better floor spacing and less of the "I see you are posting up so I will stand in front of you" teammate AI behavior. I use these exlusively now to avoid the problems I believe you are refering too.

      Now, if I could just get my post player to stop hooking the ball into the backboard or passing out when I get him perfect post position.

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      • The 24th Letter
        ERA
        • Oct 2007
        • 39438

        #4
        Freelance/Off Ball movement in the game is terrible

        Title of the thread isn't even remotely close to being true....in the specific issues you and others mentioned...I would agree...could use some work.


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        Last edited by The 24th Letter; 08-12-2015, 04:23 PM.

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        • Cowboyfan_19
          Pro
          • Jan 2015
          • 733

          #5
          Re: Freelance/Off Ball movement in the game is terrible

          I'm just waiting for a proper motion offense. Whether it's Flex or a moving Triangle, I want an offense where ALL 4 non ball handlers are doing something. Then I'd like to see the patterns in practice so that I can study it.

          When I have it on "Motion & Cuts", I'm not seeing it. Too many times do I see everyone just standing there, hoping the ball handler makes some ridiculous ISO play. I literally have to go to the 2k smart play or call an individual play for guys to move and set screens, but I don't like calling plays all the time.

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          • OTCU
            Banned
            • Sep 2012
            • 229

            #6
            Re: Freelance/Off Ball movement in the game is terrible

            Originally posted by The 24th Letter
            Title of the thread isn't even remotely close to being true....in the specific issues you mentioned...I would agree...could use some work.


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            just because players are moving doesnt mean that the offball movement is good lol
            mindlessly running around the court is just as bad as players standing around

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            • The 24th Letter
              ERA
              • Oct 2007
              • 39438

              #7
              Freelance/Off Ball movement in the game is terrible

              Originally posted by OTCU
              just because players are moving doesnt mean that the offball movement is good lol

              mindlessly running around the court is just as bad as players standing around

              If the majority of the movement you see is mindless, then a large portion of what you are seeing is on your end....


              Originally posted by Cowboyfan_19
              I'm just waiting for a proper motion offense. Whether it's Flex or a moving Triangle, I want an offense where ALL 4 non ball handlers are doing something. Then I'd like to see the patterns in practice so that I can study it.

              When I have it on "Motion & Cuts", I'm not seeing it. Too many times do I see everyone just standing there, hoping the ball handler makes some ridiculous ISO play. I literally have to go to the 2k smart play or call an individual play for guys to move and set screens, but I don't like calling plays all the time.

              Czar mentioned it in his videos before the season started, but if you want to see movement pull the ball out and let it develop. Adapting to your movement simultaneously is something he said he'd work on for this year but it's rare guys will stay still a whole possession if you bring the ball out...

              I use this all game tbh...I don't call a lot of plays...

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              Last edited by The 24th Letter; 08-12-2015, 04:32 PM.

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              • Hassan Darkside
                We Here
                • Sep 2003
                • 7568

                #8
                Re: Freelance/Off Ball movement in the game is terrible

                Originally posted by Cowboyfan_19
                I'm just waiting for a proper motion offense. Whether it's Flex or a moving Triangle, I want an offense where ALL 4 non ball handlers are doing something. Then I'd like to see the patterns in practice so that I can study it.

                When I have it on "Motion & Cuts", I'm not seeing it. Too many times do I see everyone just standing there, hoping the ball handler makes some ridiculous ISO play. I literally have to go to the 2k smart play or call an individual play for guys to move and set screens, but I don't like calling plays all the time.
                I don't know, what you described seems like a pretty realistic representation of the Knicks offense this past season.
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                • OTCU
                  Banned
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 229

                  #9
                  Re: Freelance/Off Ball movement in the game is terrible

                  Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                  If the majority of the movement you see is mindless, then a large portion of what you are seeing is on your end....





                  Czar mentioned it in his videos before the season started, but if you want to see movement pull the ball out and let it develop. Adapting to your movement simultaneously is something he said he'd work on for this year but it's rare guys will stay still a whole possession if you bring the ball out...

                  I use this all game tbh...I don't call a lot of plays...

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                  Now youre gonna tell me i dont know how to play the game lol
                  Ok

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                  • The 24th Letter
                    ERA
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 39438

                    #10
                    Freelance/Off Ball movement in the game is terrible

                    Originally posted by OTCU
                    Now youre gonna tell me i dont know how to play the game lol

                    Ok

                    Wasn't saying that at all man, lol

                    Meh, won't argue about it though...


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                    • ffaacc03
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 3482

                      #11
                      Re: Freelance/Off Ball movement in the game is terrible

                      Videos are our friends guys, specially in this era ... not to show if/how good we play or if/how much imput we have on what we see but to let devs know what we want or need.

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                      • OTCU
                        Banned
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 229

                        #12
                        Re: Freelance/Off Ball movement in the game is terrible

                        How do you post videos from your ps4?
                        and this is unrelated to the ttitle but
                        i like how they added the new animation to stop charge cheesing but does anybody else often get sucked into a defender thats taking a charge ? Thus geting a turnover even though you didnt run into the guy? Thats annoying

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                        • Rockie_Fresh88
                          Lockdown Defender
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 9684

                          #13
                          Re: Freelance/Off Ball movement in the game is terrible

                          Yeah sometimes I'll go right and the game forces me left right into a charge lol

                          The best thing to do is to lay off turbo man it won't happen as often
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                          • Mbunn1993
                            Pro
                            • Nov 2012
                            • 874

                            #14
                            Re: Freelance/Off Ball movement in the game is terrible

                            Originally posted by Cowboyfan_19
                            I'm just waiting for a proper motion offense. Whether it's Flex or a moving Triangle, I want an offense where ALL 4 non ball handlers are doing something. Then I'd like to see the patterns in practice so that I can study it.

                            When I have it on "Motion & Cuts", I'm not seeing it. Too many times do I see everyone just standing there, hoping the ball handler makes some ridiculous ISO play. I literally have to go to the 2k smart play or call an individual play for guys to move and set screens, but I don't like calling plays all the time.
                            Swing does this.. it takes alot of practice to master it and know what actions come from what passes, but I use the swing all game and get all kinds of action. And every thing leads to something else. Floppys will lead to PNRs or high posts, high posts lead to offball screens/cuts and dribble hand offs, there is PNR actions that have an offball floppy in the same play etc. So if a shot isn't open it will give you another option. There are so many different options in the swing that when you get the hang of it, it's all you'll ever need. Set it to swing/freelance and you start the actions by passing it to the wing player or a trailing big

                            The only thing is, it takes some play assignments into consideration. Like isolation/high posts. If you go into regular practice mode the actions will end alot because it just gives it them in Isolation situations. So I always at least take Isolation off everyone in assign plays. (You can do that for practice if you just start a quick franchise)

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                            • jk31
                              MVP
                              • Sep 2014
                              • 2673

                              #15
                              Re: Freelance/Off Ball movement in the game is terrible

                              Swing is such a sweet offensive set. I play it alle the time, too. Sometimes you just need to pass the ball around the 3pt arc, and your AI teammates will move to the right spots for you just to get an easy layup or jumper.

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