PES 2016 Demo Available Now on Xbox One and PlayStation 4

[dubcity]

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Really, that did not stop people from buying FIFA for many years.

Yep, and this demo is getting near universal praise. No reason for Konami to change anything. People love it because it's fast and it's easy to score goals. Even saw a review on Pesfan saying that it's more fun because there aren't annoying fouls to slow down the flow.

This game will more than likely get slightly better reviews than last year from IGN etc, but for those of us who play hundreds and hundreds of matches throughout the year, it'll get old quick like Pes 2015.

[roolz]

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Some of the comments in here are shocking and show a lack of knowledge about the game of football.

I wont pick out specific users or comments because id hope they are aware of what they are saying, if not they are here to troll.

Anyway, with regards to the fouls, I agree it has been toned down, although ive drawn probably 1 every other game... not enough, but they happen, so its a case of tightening up the ref, but not too much as the game flows nicely right now.

Is it perfect to represent the game? Of course not, nothing ever will be its a computer game that relies on code, however its the best by a long shot in terms of gameplay that we have had for a long time. Plenty of variety so far for me, a few niggles here and there, but you get a good game of football that you can by and large control, which will do me for now.

[dmendenhall_9]

Some of the comments in here are shocking and show a lack of knowledge about the game of football.

I wont pick out specific users or comments because id hope they are aware of what they are saying, if not they are here to troll.

Anyway, with regards to the fouls, I agree it has been toned down, although ive drawn probably 1 every other game... not enough, but they happen, so its a case of tightening up the ref, but not too much as the game flows nicely right now.

Is it perfect to represent the game? Of course not, nothing ever will be its a computer game that relies on code, however its the best by a long shot in terms of gameplay that we have had for a long time. Plenty of variety so far for me, a few niggles here and there, but you get a good game of football that you can by and large control, which will do me for now.

It is a lot of fifa fan boys. I follow these guys from the FIFA sliders page. Saying there are no passing differences in this game but in FIFA you can NEVER curl a pass to your guys running down the flank. Just interesting to see different opinions. Also a lot of complaints about AI movement off the ball which is so much better than FIFA. I never had a player make a run in FIFA ever and the defense were as dumb as bricks. I play with fluid formation a little and can get solid defensive results on PES.

[KG]

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Ball physics and A.I. are still major issues.

No pass and shot variety, way too sharp and laser esque. Off ball players seem to have no understanding of basic tactical movement whatsoever.

The game could certainly use some more error in the way of passes/shots to make them less accurate for the CPU but I haven't seen some of the glaring AI deficiencies 2015 had in the way of defending. Good CBs like Varane, Chielieni, Silva, etc... do their job at commanding the back and cleaning up messes.

On offense, deep lying middies like Pirlo, Bastian, etc... always show or create an outlet. They're just a lot slower and dynamic on the ball so you have to be careful to get caught out.

Yep, and this demo is getting near universal praise. No reason for Konami to change anything. People love it because it's fast and it's easy to score goals. Even saw a review on Pesfan saying that it's more fun because there aren't annoying fouls to slow down the flow.

This game will more than likely get slightly better reviews than last year from IGN etc, but for those of us who play hundreds and hundreds of matches throughout the year, it'll get old quick like Pes 2015.

It has some FIFA-like default characteristics but the pace is still slower.

People have been spamming Bhatti & officialpes on twitter about fouls so the average user isn't that enamored with that aspect.

IF fouls are fixed and the ML/MyClub/Edit Mode updates are what they say they are then it should get better reviews.

From what I can so far, team tactics actually work but I need to do some more testing.

A proper option file (kits, players, badges, etc... + klashman's team tactics)

[Simaofan-20]

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Hmm, something strange happened. I was Felipe Luis and made a tackle at Valbuena and missed but clipped him in the box, no penalty. It was a foul, not a vicious tackle by any means but still a foul, he fell but the game continued. Either that's bad coding for refs that went unnoticed or this will be fixed because theres no way they refuse to call fouls lol

[RoyceDa59]

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Tactics do work better than last year but just not as varied as they were in PES 2013. You have to sift through that convoluted menu to activate a lot of tactics. I have been messing with Bayern Munich a lot and switching them to Front-line pressure with the offside trap on has them play very similar to how they were last year.

[BL8001]

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There are fouls, but just like FIFA they are tied to dribbling from what I have seen.

I was in the box with vidal last night and moved the RS down and then LS up to exit that way and the CPU barged me off the ball and I drew the foul and was awarded the penalty kick.

I use LT for the special move and that plus using the R stick moves will draw penalties.

Just like FIFA you have to draw the defender into you and do a skill move to have any chance of a foul being called.

The problem with both games is they have these collision systems and what looks like it to us and what really are fouls, are not called.

The main difference between this and FIFA is that FIFA began almost calling auto fouls for all slide tackles to stop users from abusing it.

It's obvious that neither game has the logic built in to assess the collision and deem it a foul or not.

One thing they could do to cheat it is have a halo or focus ability of the ref, if you are near enough to the ref and any type of contact occurs then code it so 90% of the time a foul is called for a strict ref, 40% for a lenient ref.

Then we would have fouls and we would have a reason to believe they were being called correctly.

[dmendenhall_9]

Tactics do work better than last year but just not as varied as they were in PES 2013. You have to sift through that convoluted menu to activate a lot of tactics. I have been messing with Bayern Munich a lot and switching them to Front-line pressure with the offside trap on has them play very similar to how they were last year.

def agree tactics could be deeper for people who play master league and such.

I just get annoyed with people who complain about AI right off the bat with PES but will spend a year on FIFA sliders to try and get it to play right. They dont try different passing or shooting or tactics or fluid formations on PES though. haha. Hard to trust those opinions.

[KG]

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Tactics do work better than last year but just not as varied as they were in PES 2013. You have to sift through that convoluted menu to activate a lot of tactics. I have been messing with Bayern Munich a lot and switching them to Front-line pressure with the offside trap on has them play very similar to how they were last year.

Hell yeah Royce, the menu hierarchy could use some work. I explained to someone on evo web last night how to set & change your offensive/defensive/custom tactics:

To change the setting on the fly go to

Game plan

Switch preset tactics On

Choose manually

The first option can be toggled up/down to set the attacking/defensive instructions for Offense, Defense, and Custom

to change it in-game you press up/down on the d-pad

That's pretty cumbersome

[Matt10]

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def agree tactics could be deeper for people who play master league and such.

I just get annoyed with people who complain about AI right off the bat with PES but will spend a year on FIFA sliders to try and get it to play right. They dont try different passing or shooting or tactics or fluid formations on PES though. haha. Hard to trust those opinions.

Tried them all, no such luck. When the flow is towards the same designation as PES 15, it's hard to trust those opinions as well.

PES purists will never think about adding sliders, but there has to be a way to improve the game out of the box - those options are critical to sustaining playability in my opinion. This is coming from one of the biggest PES "fan boys" you'll ever meet considering my work in globally editing the PES series to make it playable.

[spartansocc12]

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Is there any way of downloading the demo for XBOX 360 without being a Gold member?

[dubcity]

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Is there any way of downloading the demo for XBOX 360 without being a Gold member?

Silver members typically have to wait at least 1-2 weeks to download after gold.

[steveeee]

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Ball physics and A.I. are still major issues.

No pass and shot variety, way too sharp and laser esque. Off ball players seem to have no understanding of basic tactical movement whatsoever.

I don't see any of this as a problem in this game like you. Off the ball player movement is fantastic in this game for me.. I also think the ball physics are good. I also have a hard time saying there is no pass and shot variety.. I have already seen every possible shot and pass that you can do... any ways, I disagree with your impressions and not sure how u see that

[Hunkerdown]

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def agree tactics could be deeper for people who play master league and such.

I just get annoyed with people who complain about AI right off the bat with PES but will spend a year on FIFA sliders to try and get it to play right. They dont try different passing or shooting or tactics or fluid formations on PES though. haha. Hard to trust those opinions.

Those comments no different than a fifa fan boy making comments. How bout just talking about pes demo.

[KG]

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Good goal by Pogba (who's a great mix of pace & power). I'd still rather see him go down via one of those challenges instead of skipping over it.