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  • MarkWilliam
    72-10
    • Oct 2012
    • 2325

    #346
    Re: NBA 2K16 Trailer - Winning

    Originally posted by Sundown
    Not to mention this very thread is about a video where it's evident the lighting has been vastly improved.

    And yes, the court reflections were much too bright in 2K14. There's no disagree or not about it. They objectively just are, but judging by the latest video, I would like to see them turn up the reflections a bit more, especially at low angles (fresnel). We're getting so close.

    There's also one more thing that needs to be turned up to sell the illusion of arena lighting. The under light caused by the arena floor itself. There's likely a bit of it in 2K, but you can see how consistently the surfaces pointing down and facing the floor are brightened in photos and videos from nearly any camera angle.

    I would think this could be implemented as a simple ambient diffuse environment map or a reflectance map with mip mapped roughness levels. I bet one already exists so maybe it just needs adjusting, and the engine looks like it already has realtime ambient occlusion, so the map just needs to be multiplied by that so you don't get weird lighting in armpit cracks and such. If that was implemented or adjusted, it would add a subtle but powerful effect of feeling like the players are actually in the space of an arena with hardwood floors and arena lighting.


    Yeah I thought 2K14 over glossed and the paint looked dominated by the lights. 2K15 went the other way and until we see broadcast cam, we don't know about this IMO.


    But they now have paint scuffs everywhere from this trailer and it looks INSANE! Did they scan courts aswell now?


    The paints being TOO perfectly clean in 2K15 always got a second glance from me..... no more in 2K16.


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    • UConcord11
      Rookie
      • Jan 2012
      • 99

      #347
      I guess i'll be the one to say that we basically just saw 90% animations folks. How are you even excited?

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      • FINCANEfan
        Rookie
        • Jul 2010
        • 18

        #348
        It saddens me that some will come up with some fugazy opinion hinting towards a dislike for the best sports game on the market. where were your fathers? haha!!!!

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        • Mauer4MVP
          MVP
          • Mar 2010
          • 2407

          #349
          Re: NBA 2K16 Trailer - Winning

          Originally posted by UConcord11
          I guess i'll be the one to say that we basically just saw 90% animations folks. How are you even excited?
          I guess I'll be the one to say it wasn't 90%. I didn't do the math either, but my guess is a lot safer.

          Also, if done right (which 2k does), animations can be a really good thing. Especially in sports games. I feel more out of control in a game like live with fewer animations. At least with some animations implemented I can perform the moves and tasks I am trying to.

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          • BA2929
            The Designated Hitter
            • Jul 2008
            • 3342

            #350
            Re: NBA 2K16 Trailer - Winning

            Originally posted by UConcord11
            I guess i'll be the one to say that we basically just saw 90% animations folks. How are you even excited?
            Well it IS an hype trailer. What did you want them to do, show us someone dribbling in place for 5 seconds in the middle of it?
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            • MarkWilliam
              72-10
              • Oct 2012
              • 2325

              #351
              Re: NBA 2K16 Trailer - Winning

              Originally posted by Mauer4MVP
              I guess I'll be the one to say it wasn't 90%. I didn't do the math either, but my guess is a lot safer.

              Also, if done right (which 2k does), animations can be a really good thing. Especially in sports games. I feel more out of control in a game like live with fewer animations. At least with some animations implemented I can perform the moves and tasks I am trying to.


              One thing I will say, in 2K15 when I bring the ball up I felt the animations took over at times. Felt clumsy (for lack of a better word). This is just when bringing the ball up the court I mean..... I just got reminded of this by Mauer's post and when I saw the PGs bringing the ball up in this trailer....


              I am hoping the walk up, jog up or run up are cleaner and tighter this year. Hard to say obviously from this trailer..... but we'll see.

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              • strawberryshortcake
                MVP
                • Sep 2009
                • 2438

                #352
                Re: NBA 2K16 Trailer - Winning

                I was going to hold out on getting another NBA2k game until a legitimate halftime show was implemented. I skipped NBA2k15 because of this. I am still waiting for an extraordinary halftime show including a post game show. Please build upon the existing pre-game show.

                However, NBA2k16 looks to be a worthy purchase. Digital or Physical? That is the question.



                Trailer is bloody fantastic ... Just Winning!


                1. Loving the subtle facial expressions, expressive emotions.
                2. Wasn't too fond of Hardens' jumpshot having a hitch.
                3. Improved player models really do make a difference.
                4. Players in motion do the players justice more so than screenshots.
                5. That Lebron James sweaty arm (skin tone, lighting and everything) is absolutely bloody fantastic.
                6. Anthony Davis legs, especially ankle area, looks to still require some slimming effect and possibly lengthening of the entire leg.
                7. I'm not going to list out every little detail in the trailer. There's too much good stuff there to list.


                Originally posted by lakers24
                Can we get Melo's old head scan back though?
                Has Melo ever been scanned for an NBA 2k basketball game?

                In all honesty, for whatever reason, Melo simply has a generic looking face, almost a create a player type of face ... in real life and in the virtual world.
                The other game threw out a scanned Melo which I thought look mighty generic -- I was like "who was that?" I googled the real Melo, and low and behold, Melo simply looks extra generic .

                Can everyone please root for Carmello Anthony to have a monster, break out year to the point where he becomes the cover athlete for NBA2k17?

                Maybe then, 2k will have an incentive to give Melo a more realistic face even if Melo naturally has a fairly generic face and all.


                Last edited by strawberryshortcake; 08-24-2015, 09:17 PM.
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                • itsOTTOmatic
                  Banned
                  • Nov 2013
                  • 128

                  #353
                  Re: NBA 2K16 Trailer - Winning

                  Looks more like John Starks than Melo


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                  • videlsports
                    Pro
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 500

                    #354
                    Honestly, no trailer needed, Already Purchased. 2k always brings it. I'm glad they adjusted the ratings, And if they adjusted the contact from being ridiculous (people just jump into your player online) this will be another great title.
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                    • STLRams
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 2847

                      #355
                      Re: NBA 2K16 Trailer - Winning

                      Nice trailer! I'm really hoping 2K has improved the looks of the classic players also and a more in depth halftime show, like they use to have, then 2K16 will be a must by for me.

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                      • Syco_G
                        Rookie
                        • Dec 2013
                        • 192

                        #356
                        Re: NBA 2K16 Trailer - Winning

                        Originally posted by UConcord11
                        I guess i'll be the one to say that we basically just saw 90% animations folks. How are you even excited?
                        I agree. The trailer was nice but what this tells us about the actual gameplay is very little. I'll be hype when they prove that the crazy amount of cheese in this game is gone, when they stop putting a handicap on the person playing defense and when the show the ProAM isn't the zig zagging 3pt contest Rec was.
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                        Michael Jordan -DPotY- / Harden
                        Klay Thompson / Pippen
                        Anthony Davis / Aminu
                        Bill Russell -MVP- / Ewing

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                        • stillfeelme
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 2407

                          #357
                          Re: NBA 2K16 Trailer - Winning

                          Originally posted by strawberryshortcake




                          Has Melo ever been scanned for an NBA 2k basketball game?

                          In all honesty, for whatever reason, Melo simply has a generic looking face, almost a create a player type of face ... in real life and in the virtual world.
                          The other game threw out a scanned Melo which I thought look mighty generic -- I was like "who was that?" I googled the real Melo, and low and behold, Melo simply looks extra generic .
                          Melo's scan was good in 2K15 he had something going on with his eyelashes though



                          I don't think he was scanned 2k16 though he looks different not the same as 2K15. When you think about Melo probably didn't get scanned because he was hurt

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                          • doublek
                            Rookie
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 443

                            #358
                            Re: NBA 2K16 Trailer - Winning

                            Originally posted by teopanta1
                            2k must do soccer game to teach ea and Konami how the best doing. Great trailer. Hope servers running smooth for the first day
                            I'm gonna lose my **** if they do soccer game.

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                            • strawberryshortcake
                              MVP
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 2438

                              #359
                              Re: NBA 2K16 Trailer - Winning

                              Originally posted by stillfeelme
                              Melo's scan was good in 2K15 he had something going on with his eyelashes though
                              Spoiler

                              I don't think he was scanned 2k16 though he looks different not the same as 2K15. When you think about Melo probably didn't get scanned because he was hurt
                              NBA2k15 Melo looks good, face wise much better than what's offer in the Winning trailer. Why couldn't 2k simply have kept NBA2k15 Melo for NBA2k16?

                              NBA2k16's Melo looks as if someone tried to recreate Melo using graphic art tools.
                              NBA2k15's Melo as you put it, Melo actually got scanned.
                              Fixes
                              NBA2k Defense AI,Footplant, Gameplay
                              MLB Show Pitching/throwing
                              Madden/Live Animations Walking, Throwing

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                              • thedream2k16
                                Banned
                                • Apr 2015
                                • 651

                                #360
                                Re: NBA 2K16 Trailer - Winning

                                Originally posted by strawberryshortcake
                                I was going to hold out on getting another NBA2k game until a legitimate halftime show was implemented. I skipped NBA2k15 because of this. I am still waiting for an extraordinary halftime show including a post game show. Please build upon the existing pre-game show.

                                However, NBA2k16 looks to be a worthy purchase. Digital or Physical? That is the question.



                                Trailer is bloody fantastic ... Just Winning!


                                1. Loving the subtle facial expressions, expressive emotions.
                                2. Wasn't too fond of Hardens' jumpshot having a hitch.
                                3. Improved player models really do make a difference.
                                4. Players in motion do the players justice more so than screenshots.
                                5. That Lebron James sweaty arm (skin tone, lighting and everything) is absolutely bloody fantastic.
                                6. Anthony Davis legs, especially ankle area, looks to still require some slimming effect and possibly lengthening of the entire leg.
                                7. I'm not going to list out every little detail in the trailer. There's too much good stuff there to list.




                                Has Melo ever been scanned for an NBA 2k basketball game?

                                In all honesty, for whatever reason, Melo simply has a generic looking face, almost a create a player type of face ... in real life and in the virtual world.
                                The other game threw out a scanned Melo which I thought look mighty generic -- I was like "who was that?" I googled the real Melo, and low and behold, Melo simply looks extra generic .

                                Can everyone please root for Carmello Anthony to have a monster, break out year to the point where he becomes the cover athlete for NBA2k17?

                                Maybe then, 2k will have an incentive to give Melo a more realistic face even if Melo naturally has a fairly generic face and all.


                                you really skipped nba 2k15 because of a halftime show? you taking the fun out of the game bro lol

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