NBA 2K16 Player Ratings & Screenshots - Day Four: Kobe, Wall, Ross & More

[BluFu]

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He played 1200 minutes which is a plenty large sample (more than Hassan Whiteside, for example). It's 300 less than Derrick Rose, unless of course you're advocating we ignore Rose's ****ty performance as well.

Nope I'd just like to know why the outcry for Kobe's rating when Rose is being treated in similar fashion.

LOL, yes he will be, he is 37.

So as soon as you hit 37, you're going to be injury-riddled? That sounds sh***y

Rose played 300 minutes (10 games) the season before, the key difference (Kobe was likewise hot garbage in his 6 game 2014 season and didn't have his rating touched). There is basically no difference between Rose/Kobe's situations over the last two years.

That's what I'm saying Rashidi.. I don't remember this much backlash when Rose started with an 88. People were much more willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Kobe continues to get high ratings because there are casual clowns out there (that 2K doesn't want to piss off) who seriously think he is still on par with the likes of Jimmy Butler and Klay Thompson when the reality is he is a rich man's Evan Turner at this point.

25, 5 and 5 over the last 3 seasons... "rich man's Evan Turner"... you guys kill me sometimes

[ojandpizza]

NBA 2K16 Player Ratings & Screenshots - Day Four: Kobe, Wall, Ross & More

Lebron's shooting percentages weren't just "a little lower". They were just straight up bad. 40% is terrible efficiency. And him being contained by Iguodala was what netted him the Finals MVP. After his playoff performance, I can't NOT give him a 94-95 or lower. It's still very, very good and a dominant rating on an all-time scale. But it was clearly not peak Lebron (who is probably a 96-98 on a GOAT scale).

He shot 42% during the playoffs, Jordan's last 3 years 45%, 45%, 46%.. Do you know what the different of 3-4% is when you are taking 20+ shots per game? About half a shot.. So per 40 shots LeBron would miss one more shot than Jordan.. Does that make Jordan "straight up bad" as well? Is 2k going to lower Jordan's ratings for his past prime self? Likely not, so that's where this is unfair. Jordan also wasn't averaging borderline triple doubles and grabbing over 13 rebounds.. So yes excuse me for thinking LeBron's performance shouldn't require him to have a rating drop when he's piling up numbers like guys from the 60's in today's slower paced and lower statistical era.

To put in perspective, 2k15 a 2nd year Jordan is a 94, rookie Tim Duncan is a 90, Payton is a 92, Wilt a 94 not prime 50ppg Wilt but 35 year old Wilt who averaged 14 points per game, Oscar is a 95 not triple double averaging Oscar but the 33 year old who averaged 17/7/5, Iverson LOL a 93, Shaq at 23 years old a 95, Julius Erving (does nothing better than LeBron) is a 95.. 30 year old Bird is a 98, 30 year old LeBron is a 94. Their stats? Per 36min Bird 24.9/6.8/8.2 and his playoff numbers 27/7/10 at 44 minutes, Per 36 LeBron 25.2/7.4/6 his playoff numbers 30.1/8.5/12 at 42 minutes..

But go on and keep telling me how those guys aren't being overvalued and current stars undervalued.




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[Chocolate Chip]

Re: NBA 2K16 Player Ratings & Screenshots - Day Four: Kobe, Wall, Ross & More

if kobe is an 85 than you just have to wonder what the other SG's rating wil be like for example Jimmy Butler, Wade, & Klay...

[jfsolo]

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He shot 42% during the playoffs, Jordan's last 3 years 45%, 45%, 46%.. Do you know what the different of 3-4% is when you are taking 20+ shots per game? About half a shot.. So per 40 shots LeBron would miss one more shot than Jordan.. Does that make Jordan "straight up bad" as well? Is 2k going to lower Jordan's ratings for his past prime self? Likely not, so that's where this is unfair. Jordan also wasn't averaging borderline triple doubles and grabbing over 13 rebounds.. So yes excuse me for thinking LeBron's performance shouldn't require him to have a rating drop when he's piling up numbers like guys from the 60's in today's slower paced and lower statistical era.

To put in perspective, 2k15 a 2nd year Jordan is a 94, rookie Tim Duncan is a 90, Payton is a 92, Wilt a 94 not prime 50ppg Wilt but 35 year old Wilt who averaged 14 points per game, Oscar is a 95 not triple double averaging Oscar but the 33 year old who averaged 17/7/5, Iverson LOL a 93, Shaq at 23 years old a 95, Julius Erving (does nothing better than LeBron) is a 95.. 30 year old Bird is a 98, 30 year old LeBron is a 94. Their stats? Per 36min Bird 24.9/6.8/8.2 and his playoff numbers 27/7/10 at 44 minutes, Per 36 LeBron 25.2/7.4/6 his playoff numbers 30.1/8.5/12 at 42 minutes..

But go on and keep telling me how those guys aren't being overvalued and current stars undervalued.




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Here's the question, in this new system are those old ratings still going to be applied to those players at those ages with those numbers. If they do then they're undermining their whole system.

The post baseball MJ really is a 92-93 Ovr player. His mythological status makes people want to apply the 99 to him for that time period. The 1987-1992 Mike was the 99 player, the same case can be made for the 2007-2013 LeBron.

[23]

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Im just saying, ratings or not, the last 2 years including a 37% season, that needs to be reflected in the game, period.

I don't care to argue like some people live off of, but it's just real life..the guy has not been what some of you imagine him as in years past.

The sad part is the people in here always screaming for 2k to have more defense in the game are justifying this rating by offense only and completely IGNORING the fact that he was worse than what people were clowning James Harden for.

Overall he should not be playing like some kind of franchise star player I have to gameplan around only with the way he plays and how bad he's been.

[redsox4evur]

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Im just saying, ratings or not, the last 2 years including a 37% season, that needs to be reflected in the game, period.

I don't care to argue like some people live off of, but it's just real life..the guy has not been what some of you imagine him as in years past.

The sad part is the people in here always screaming for 2k to have more defense in the game are justifying this rating by offense only and completely IGNORING the fact that he was worse than what people were clowning James Harden for.

Overall he should not be playing like some kind of franchise star player I have to gameplan around only with the way he plays and how bad he's been.

Also 23, at this point in his career he isn't close to the same level of player as John Wall, Harden, Paul George, Chris Paul, Griffin, etc. all of those guys that will be rated around the same as Kobe is.

[23]

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Also 23, at this point in his career he isn't close to the same level of player as John Wall, Harden, Paul George, Chris Paul, Griffin, etc. all of those guys that will be rated around the same as Kobe is.

but like I said, forget all the numbers being thrown out here when thats not even what 2k is using.

I don't care how much some of these guys like Kobe, he's just NOT that guy. I don't agree with saying you can't judge him from the past 2 seasons....


Wait,


I'm not trashing him, I just need to see how it plays first. If I can do the same things with him that I can do with LeBron or KD then

[thedream2k16]

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Im just saying, ratings or not, the last 2 years including a 37% season, that needs to be reflected in the game, period.

I don't care to argue like some people live off of, but it's just real life..the guy has not been what some of you imagine him as in years past.

The sad part is the people in here always screaming for 2k to have more defense in the game are justifying this rating by offense only and completely IGNORING the fact that he was worse than what people were clowning James Harden for.

Overall he should not be playing like some kind of franchise star player I have to gameplan around only with the way he plays and how bad he's been.

said it perfectly

[BluFu]

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Also 23, at this point in his career he isn't close to the same level of player as John Wall, Harden, Paul George, Chris Paul, Griffin, etc. all of those guys that will be rated around the same as Kobe is.

Now I'm really interested to see how everyone reacts when Paul George gets an 87+ overall after averaging 9 points on 36% shooting.. should be fun

[23]

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Now I'm really interested to see how everyone reacts when Paul George gets an 87+ overall after averaging 9 points on 36% shooting.. should be fun

Depends if they have a bias for Paul like they do with Kobe...and if multiple seasons add up to him being lower than that both by numbers and the eye test.

[GudStuffzz]

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LOL @ Ross believing he should be higher than a 73, in fact he should be HAPPY 2k gave him a 73. Dude regressed like crazy. He was missing easy 3 point shots, and his defense which has usually been solid was non existent. He really offered nothing on the court if his 3 point shot wasnt falling. Ever since that Nets playoff series, he really hasn't been the same

[Chocolate Chip]

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Here's the question, in this new system are those old ratings still going to be applied to those players at those ages with those numbers. If they do then they're undermining their whole system.

The post baseball MJ really is a 92-93 Ovr player. His mythological status makes people want to apply the 99 to him for that time period. The 1987-1992 Mike was the 99 player, the same case can be made for the 2007-2013 LeBron.

LBJ shouldnt be a 99 in '07 & '08, no way. 2011 too

[Chocolate Chip]

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Now I'm really interested to see how everyone reacts when Paul George gets an 87+ overall after averaging 9 points on 36% shooting.. should be fun

he only played 6 games...not a big sample size

[DC]

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Like it was mentioned in the SIm Hangout, 2K needs to stop letting Ronnie be buddy buddy with those dudes on Twitter. All a player has to do is cry about a rating and Ronnie looks out.

I remember they gave Kyrie a 91 vertical one year because he said something to Ronnie. A 91 man. For Kyrie.

Same with Whiteside

[GSW]

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Like it was mentioned in the SIm Hangout, 2K needs to stop letting Ronnie be buddy buddy with those dudes on Twitter. All a player has to do is cry about a rating and Ronnie looks out.

I remember they gave Kyrie a 91 vertical one year because he said something to Ronnie. A 91 man. For Kyrie.

Same with Whiteside

Yea,

That's ruining the game. Of course NBA players want ridiculous ratings. I noticed Ronnie likes to say "That's my boy" about these guys too the guy really enjoys the limelight and attention thats for sure.

I be wanting to say "That's not your boy, bro." but...whatever. Lol. Keep doin you, player.