NBA 2K16 Player Ratings & Screenshots - Day Four: Kobe, Wall, Ross & More

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Re: NBA 2K16 Player Ratings & Screenshots - Day Four: Kobe, Wall, Ross & More

He shot 42% during the playoffs, Jordan's last 3 years 45%, 45%, 46%.. Do you know what the different of 3-4% is when you are taking 20+ shots per game? About half a shot.. So per 40 shots LeBron would miss one more shot than Jordan.. Does that make Jordan "straight up bad" as well? Is 2k going to lower Jordan's ratings for his past prime self? Likely not, so that's where this is unfair. Jordan also wasn't averaging borderline triple doubles and grabbing over 13 rebounds.. So yes excuse me for thinking LeBron's performance shouldn't require him to have a rating drop when he's piling up numbers like guys from the 60's in today's slower paced and lower statistical era.

To put in perspective, 2k15 a 2nd year Jordan is a 94, rookie Tim Duncan is a 90, Payton is a 92, Wilt a 94 not prime 50ppg Wilt but 35 year old Wilt who averaged 14 points per game, Oscar is a 95 not triple double averaging Oscar but the 33 year old who averaged 17/7/5, Iverson LOL a 93, Shaq at 23 years old a 95, Julius Erving (does nothing better than LeBron) is a 95.. 30 year old Bird is a 98, 30 year old LeBron is a 94. Their stats? Per 36min Bird 24.9/6.8/8.2 and his playoff numbers 27/7/10 at 44 minutes, Per 36 LeBron 25.2/7.4/6 his playoff numbers 30.1/8.5/12 at 42 minutes..

But go on and keep telling me how those guys aren't being overvalued and current stars undervalued.




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Isn't LeBron a 96 in 2K15 with the -7 update? Doesn't that mean he's really a 97 or 98 with all the shooting attributes back up in 2K15? How do we know that they aren't changing the legends' ratings too?

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Long time Laker fan here..

Let's be honest. Yes, Kobe took terrible shots last year, but he also led the league in scoring for what, 2 months? Thats impressive for a 36 year old, i dont' care what anyone says.


Also, who else was going to score on the Lakers? Swaggy was terrible last year.. that was our only other scorer. What was kobe to do? Let JOhnson and JLIN score? lol Lets get real people, Kobe had to do what he had to do. Lakers were a terrible team last year.

At least this year he has scorers on his team like Lou, Clarkson, and Russ. Maybe Throw in Swaggy,

[redsox4evur]

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Long time Laker fan here..

Let's be honest. Yes, Kobe took terrible shots last year, but he also led the league in scoring for what, 2 months? Thats impressive for a 36 year old, i dont' care what anyone says.


Also, who else was going to score on the Lakers? Swaggy was terrible last year.. that was our only other scorer. What was kobe to do? Let JOhnson and JLIN score? lol Lets get real people, Kobe had to do what he had to do. Lakers were a terrible team last year.

The second bolded statement is why the first statement happened. It's almost the same situation as Melo in NY. Who else was/is going to score on that team? Melo is going to be the Kobe a chucker who is playing on a horrible team and is coming off a big injury and will be in the top 5 in scoring this season.

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Long time Laker fan here..

Let's be honest. Yes, Kobe took terrible shots last year, but he also led the league in scoring for what, 2 months? Thats impressive for a 36 year old, i dont' care what anyone says.


Also, who else was going to score on the Lakers?

Im just saying, ratings or not, the last 2 years including a 37% season, that needs to be reflected in the game, period.


The sad part is the people in here always screaming for 2k to have more defense in the game are justifying this rating by offense only and completely IGNORING the fact that he was worse than what people were clowning James Harden for on D.

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Long time Laker fan here..

Let's be honest. Yes, Kobe took terrible shots last year, but he also led the league in scoring for what, 2 months? Thats impressive for a 36 year old, i dont' care what anyone says.


Also, who else was going to score on the Lakers? Swaggy was terrible last year.. that was our only other scorer. What was kobe to do? Let JOhnson and JLIN score? lol Lets get real people, Kobe had to do what he had to do. Lakers were a terrible team last year.

At least this year he has scorers on his team like Lou, Clarkson, and Russ. Maybe Throw in Swaggy,

So hypothetically...If you lead the L in scoring shooting 30% that's a good season?

Same thing with Lebron in the Finals. He had to shoot a lot and be ineffective. Regardless it does not matter how old you are shooting a low percentage isn't impressive by any stretch.

Still doesn't warrant an 85 if he shoots a low FG% on bad or good shots. If you shoot a low percentage that's evidence you're not a good shooter or you're regressing lol. Regardless of the shots or who's on your team.

[rbfn04]

Terrible rating for Kobe. No way he's an 85 right now

[Da_Czar]

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I'm not trashing him, I just need to see how it plays first. If I can do the same things with him that I can do with LeBron or KD then [/QUOTE]


I don't believe you will be able to. At least I currently can't. From what I am seeing when playing the game this year an 85 in 2k15 is not the same in gameplay as an 85 in 2K16. At least where Kobe is concerned. My last game with Kobe I was 2-12 I tried to force the action a bit to no avail.

I don't see anyone really winning games by playing through him unless they move him around and find really favorable matchups.

There have been lots of under the hood changes that effect how the game actually plays out. So it might be worth seeing what you can actually do with each guy before burning the house down based on an overall number.

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I don't believe you will be able to. At least I currently can't. From what I am seeing when playing the game this year an 85 in 2k15 is not the same in gameplay as an 85 in 2K16. At least where Kobe is concerned. My last game with Kobe I was 2-12 I tried to force the action a bit to no avail.

I don't see anyone really winning games by playing through him unless they move him around and find really favorable matchups.

There have been lots of under the hood changes that effect how the game actually plays out. So it might be worth seeing what you can actually do with each guy before burning the house down based on an overall number.

Haha yeah people definitely have the matches and gas soaked wicks waiting

[swac07]

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I don't believe you will be able to. At least I currently can't. From what I am seeing when playing the game this year an 85 in 2k15 is not the same in gameplay as an 85 in 2K16. At least where Kobe is concerned. My last game with Kobe I was 2-12 I tried to force the action a bit to no avail.

I don't see anyone really winning games by playing through him unless they move him around and find really favorable matchups.

There have been lots of under the hood changes that effect how the game actually plays out. So it might be worth seeing what you can actually do with each guy before burning the house down based on an overall number.

thats good to hear

[Hardhitta5hun]

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Am i the only one that thinks the overall board resembles TNT a bit idk maybe im looking too hard but it looks familar switch out the numbers and put tnt and there u go i and they still haven't announced commentary and audio i really hope 2k pull a rabbit out the hat that wud kill it

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[eltyboogie]

Re: NBA 2K16 Screenshots & Ratings - Day Four: Wall, Ross & More as They Arrive

Lebron shot like that for all of Playoffs.


That said, Lebron's feat was impressive because of his offensive load. But shooting inefficiently in high volume isn't something that's actually evidence for a higher rating.


Plus Lebron wasn't very notworthy on defense. I watched the whole series and can't spot his defensive impact. I was sort of suprised about it in retrospect. 94 is fine on an all-time scale.


And I don't disagree that prime AI and Kobe shouldn't be any higher than a 94-95 on an All-Time GOAT scale. That leaves a 4-5 point spread for the many greats that are better than both those players.



Heh, I saw a Denver game where he did nothing but shoot the Lakers out of the game with a double digit lead with turnaround fade after fade. I guess that was the exception?

i agree but if you say bron was shooting like that for the entire playoffs then why say his poor shooting led to iggy getting fmvp? bron shooting poorly previously in the playoffs would imply iggy had little to no effect on bron right?
and lets not act like the bulls hawks or even celtics are bad defensive teams lol

[jfsolo]

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I don't believe you will be able to. At least I currently can't. From what I am seeing when playing the game this year an 85 in 2k15 is not the same in gameplay as an 85 in 2K16. At least where Kobe is concerned. My last game with Kobe I was 2-12 I tried to force the action a bit to no avail.

I don't see anyone really winning games by playing through him unless they move him around and find really favorable matchups.

There have been lots of under the hood changes that effect how the game actually plays out. So it might be worth seeing what you can actually do with each guy before burning the house down based on an overall number.

You know that you saying this is pure torture don't you? We're all dying to know about the gameplay changes that you're referencing.

[Mgl8119]

Can't wait to play

[raidertiger]

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2k/EA ratings are always politics. Can't wait until the community makes some proper rosters. Look at any 2k game, you see some scrubs like JR and Felton boasting 80+ overalls.

Kobe an 85 is laughable, but not surprising from a video game company.

[Real2KInsider]

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Like it was mentioned in the SIm Hangout, 2K needs to stop letting Ronnie be buddy buddy with those dudes on Twitter. All a player has to do is cry about a rating and Ronnie looks out.

I remember they gave Kyrie a 91 vertical one year because he said something to Ronnie. A 91 man. For Kyrie.

As someone informed on the ratings as much as anyone, I disagreed with the comment on the Hangout. The players really don't have any influence, and it's an insult to Beds to suggest otherwise.

(Kyrie has an 81 Vert rating at present, which jives with his reported vert of 37 inches)

Same with Whiteside

The dude had a 27 PER and there are people who act like he doesn't deserve a low 80s rating. If I had 27 PER and was a 66 OVR I would be bitching too.