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[LOOSECANNON]

not a lot of you guys care for pre-and-post game shows, in-game highlights cutaways, weekly recaps, and play of the game packages.

It would truly make CFM so much better and feel more like a real NFL game. Why bother playing 17 weeks against the computer or whoever, if none of the other games around the league matter? I don't want to have to go through all the League Leader stats after each game, if I can't SEE exactly what the other top players or playmakers are doing around The League.

I feel like, if there was more of an outcry for this sort of thing (that NBA 2K ALMOST does great), we'd see it.

Read some of my further thoughts on the game here >>> http://godhatesgeeks.com/madden-nfl-...eague-tonight/ <<< if you're completely bored or agree with my outlook. We'd like to think it's a pretty epic, entertaining review.

[briz1046]

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not a lot of you guys care for pre-and-post game shows, in-game highlights cutaways, weekly recaps, and play of the game packages.

It would truly make CFM so much better and feel more like a real NFL game. Why bother playing 17 weeks against the computer or whoever, if none of the other games around the league matter? I don't want to have to go through all the League Leader stats after each game, if I can't SEE exactly what the other top players or playmakers are doing around The League.

I feel like, if there was more of an outcry for this sort of thing (that NBA 2K ALMOST does great), we'd see it.

Read some of my further thoughts on the game here >>> http://godhatesgeeks.com/madden-nfl-...eague-tonight/ <<< if you're completely bored or agree with my outlook. We'd like to think it's a pretty epic, entertaining review.

Pre/ post game shows and weekly roundups would be fine but to me at least come under the bells and whistles category
In game tickers / cutaways only work for 1 team control franchises , if ur in a league or control more than one team they wouldn't work properly and the cost reward of spending time on this thus would be negative IMO

[Hooe]

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I get the impression that a lot of people want to play football first and foremost, and to that end pre-game / post-game components become things that get buttoned through more often than not. They just want to get to the game.

This isn't to say I wouldn't like to see pre- and post-game presentation elements; I would. But I understand the sentiments of those who don't.

[Skyboxer]

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I get the impression that a lot of people want to play football first and foremost, and to that end pre-game / post-game components become things that get buttoned through more often than not. They just want to get to the game.

This isn't to say I wouldn't like to see pre- and post-game presentation elements; I would. But I understand the sentiments of those who don't.

I think more than the OP thinks actually wouldn't mind all these extras but have more things ahead of the list of things they want.

I wouldn't mind the extras but focus more feedback to developer on things like getting formation subs, custom cameras etc.. in the game.

[Fusker]

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No matter how cool this stuff is at first, it gets stale real fast. So unless game makers want to commit to patches that would infuse new content, I'll pass.

Even in 2k, I want to strangle Steve Kerr at this point, and don't get me going on Clumsy Smurf...I mean Phil Simms. ;-)

[Darxide]

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Madden has never been big on broadcast level immersion, sadly. You would never even know they own the ESPN license. I'm certain they ignore it as not to remind people of the 2K series.

I mean, can we at least get some broadcast cam replays? Yeesh.

[sniperscout75]

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I care about those things and would love a perfect world to have both outstanding gameplay and presentation. I really think Madden nailed the gameplay this year and would LOVE if each game had all of the type of interactions the opening scenario had. If each game we played featured the type of cutscenes that the opening did all I would say is wow and thank you.


I don't know if resources allow for both but id take solid gameplay over presentation if both cant be achieved.

[T5063]

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I'm actually pretty big on this kind of stuff. I'd love to see things like, if I have a QB thats third in passing yards in the league, there is a stat banner that show the top five QBs by passing yards in the league... same goes for RBs, defenders etc.... anything to do with career milestone, if a player had a great game against the current opponent the last time we played, playoff races, standings, upcoming schedules, outcome of previous drives when the team is taking the field for a new one, league leaders, injuries... especially during pregame so I know who is out for my opponent as well as to refresh who is out on my team... I could go on for ever with this stuff. Being a total stat head I would never skip any of this stuff!!

The only way to check this stuff now is navigating through a mostly clunky and slow menu system outside of gameplay.

[redsox4evur]

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I care about those things and would love a perfect world to have both outstanding gameplay and presentation. I really think Madden nailed the gameplay this year and would LOVE if each game had all of the type of interactions the opening scenario had. If each game we played featured the type of cutscenes that the opening did all I would say is wow and thank you.


I don't know if resources allow for both but id take solid gameplay over presentation if both cant be achieved.

They can be achieved. Because the GAMEPLAY is done by the GAMEPLAY department and PRESENTATION is done by the PRESENTATION department. *** **** why people understand this...

(not getting mad at just you though sniper there are others as well).

[sniperscout75]

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They can be achieved. Because the GAMEPLAY is done by the GAMEPLAY department and PRESENTATION is done by the PRESENTATION department. *** **** why people understand this...

(not getting mad at just you though sniper there are others as well).

Wow, bit much don't you think? Not sure what got you fired up but I don't know the inner workings of ea like I guess you do. I simply stated I'm not sure if resources permit both or not.

[redsox4evur]

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Wow, bit much don't you think? Not sure what got you fired up but I don't know the inner workings of ea like I guess you do. I simply stated I'm not sure if resources permit both or not.

This stuff is brought every year when things aren't focused on in the game. And it's been said time and time again that these things are segregated into different departments. It's the same thing with how they only focus on MUT. When once again that is a wrong and false statement.

[sniperscout75]

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This stuff is brought every year when things aren't focused on in the game. And it's been said time and time again that these things are segregated into different departments. It's the same thing with how they only focus on MUT. When once again that is a wrong and false statement.

Tell me anywhere in my post that I mentioned anything about ignoring certain aspects or modes? "Resources" when I used it meant hardware resources. Yes I didn't specify that type of resources but again no where did I mention any of this point you are bringing up.

[redsox4evur]

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Tell me anywhere in my post that I mentioned anything about ignoring certain aspects or modes? "Resources" when I used it meant hardware resources. Yes I didn't specify that type of resources but again no where did I mention any of this point you are bringing up.

The part you bolded had nothing to do with you brought up, you're. It was about MUT and that being the focus of Madden. I was just comparing complaints I read on this entire site. The devs have put in a guys mouth guard they aren't doing with gameplay. And others say on this subforum that EA hasn't focused on CFM since its first release because they focus on MUT which makes them more money. And this (focus on MUT instead of Franchise) is wrong. Just look at what changed in MUT this year (nothing) and in franchise (retooled scouting system, draft watchlist, combine results, sim-a-win, give owner more funds, reset confidence, drive goals, etc.).

[sniperscout75]

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The part you bolded had nothing to do with you brought up, you're. It was about MUT and that being the focus of Madden. I was just comparing complaints I read on this entire site. The devs have put in a guys mouth guard they aren't doing with gameplay. And others say on this subforum that EA hasn't focused on CFM since its first release because they focus on MUT which makes them more money. And this (focus on MUT instead of Franchise) is wrong. Just look at what changed in MUT this year (nothing) and in franchise (retooled scouting system, draft watchlist, combine results, sim-a-win, give owner more funds, reset confidence, drive goals, etc.).

Again, its like we are having 2 different conversations here. Show me where I mentioned any of the things you mention but yet you felt the need to call me out? Again for what? Re-read my post. Nothing is in there that mentions mut or anything else you mention.

[redsox4evur]

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Again, its like we are having 2 different conversations here. Show me where I mentioned any of the things you mention but yet you felt the need to call me out? Again for what? Re-read my post. Nothing is in there that mentions mut or anything else you mention.

You are right...you never mentioned it. I said that in my last post. I was just comparing complaints I see every year. Every year I see what you say but in a definitive they aren't working on gameplay because they completely overhauled the presentation. And I also see users saying that other modes haven't been upgraded because EA is a greedy, money grabbing company and these other modes don't bring any extra money after the initial purchase.