Now I don't know if there is a thread about this but my frustration is at and all time high. I have been and OS member for over 9yrs plus and this is not cool. I have tried everything to stop these type of plays. Maybe I lost my skills due to the fact I am an older gamer . However this is where I thought M15 shined some what a little better. I don't know if there is a patch to fix this but these type of play coupled with the fact that there is no type of contain to stop QBs makes this game almost unplayable for me. i know a lot of sims guys such as myself loved the game but as i see more of this I am starting to question is this type of game play really sim and if this is trully what some of you wanted. any advice would be thankful. pissed Os member here!!!!
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Re: I thought the agrresive cath was bad but toos and sweeps are even worse.
It was very balanced in madden 15 but definitely seems a little overpowered again. In my tests I've found toss/sweep to be successful over 80 percent of the time"Successful people do not celebrate in the adversity or misfortune of others."
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Re: I thought the agrresive cath was bad but toos and sweeps are even worse.
I disagree. They used to kill me in Madden 25 with sweeps, screens and running qbs. There are now QB contain plays and if you go with a zone that has defenders on either side, that puts a stop to the sweep and screens.Comment
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Re: I thought the agrresive cath was bad but toos and sweeps are even worse.
Make sure you aren't outnumbered on the sweep side and crash your line. If your CB has a good run stop value then put him in press man. 99% of the time unless the HB breaks the tackle it ends up as a loss. I have not found anything in the game that is overpowered this year that can't be countered. I use to hate playing online because there were certain plays that you just couldn't stop. This year there is an almost 100% effective counter for everything (tosses, aggressive catches, qb rollouts, fb dive)Comment
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Re: I thought the agrresive cath was bad but toos and sweeps are even worse.
I don't think I've ever been stopped by the CPU while running a toss play on the goal line.Comment
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Re: I thought the agrresive cath was bad but toos and sweeps are even worse.
Toss/sweep plays in general are effective if there is 1) Offense outnumbers Defenses to the toss side 2) have a speed back 3) guards are fast enough to get to the outside
If it's I formation twin WR and the toss is to the backside, then the CB is usually aligned on the twin side. INSTANT MISMATCH. Offense now has to beat 2 people (OLB and END), just to get a yard unless the safety is in the box. When ever I see this I user the safety to the TE side and force contain.
CPU does not adjust to plays like as user would. They just call a play and hope it's the right one to counter what you called. Toos/Sweeps are countered by making adjustments in the formations you know they like to be called out of. Blitzing a corner and giving the safety/ LB the corners coverage responsibility is one adjustment. If the corner is in deep zone, then of course the toss is going to work.
I don't think they are nearly as overpowered as the pistol bunch sweep and counters out of any position. I could be swallowing my words in a few months though,Comment
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Re: I thought the agrresive cath was bad but toos and sweeps are even worse.
sweeps are very easy to stop.........but you talkin about online?Comment
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Re: I thought the agrresive cath was bad but toos and sweeps are even worse.
There are a lot of good info in this thread already, but something else I do is Madden 16 allows you to move linebackers into the safety positions. I take my fastest linebackers and make one a fs the other a ss and they are more effective as run stoppers. Playing the 3-4, there are a few plays, like Cover 6 (I think it is) that have zone coverage at the line of scrimmage on the ends. Speed is the key. Look at the O-line and adjust to the side they have the most blockers on, most of the time (almost every time) a run play will go in that direction.Comment
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Re: I thought the agrresive cath was bad but toos and sweeps are even worse.
I'm curious as to how many yards are being gained on toss plays. If it's 4 or 5 then no big deal, of it's 10, ok that's different.Comment
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Re: I thought the agrresive cath was bad but toos and sweeps are even worse.
Last year, toss and sweep was completely worthless, now they actually work and people complain because they can't hold them to 1 yard.Comment
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Re: I thought the agrresive cath was bad but toos and sweeps are even worse.
I drafted a wr with 97sp 98acc and moved him to halfback before the season started. I use Strong Twins HB Toss regularly on all-pro (default sliders). I would say I average around 11 yards a carry with that back. I lose yardage some, I get 5-6 yards regularly, and maybe once a game I will break one loose for 30-40 yards that shoots my YPC up(ala Chris Johnson). At the same time, I have concentrated players specifically for that play which the CPU and a lot of other Madden players do not. I moved my best runblocker TE (86rb)
with 85 sp 88acc to Fullback, use my next best runblocker TE in the lineup, and use the fastest guard in my lineup to pull his block on the edge. After doing all that, I don't think it is overpowered at all. I shut down the cpu when they try to run sweeps.Comment
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Re: I thought the agrresive cath was bad but toos and sweeps are even worse.
I am actually a little disappointed with how infrequently mobile qbs actually try to run. That has always been a weakness for my defense, Cam Newton has burned me many times in the past.Comment
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Re: I thought the agrresive cath was bad but toos and sweeps are even worse.
Yep. No problem stopping them online for me. Every now and then they may pick up 5-8 yards, but usually they get 2 yards at the most.Comment
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