Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

[IcedCoffee1983]

Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

Are only LT's regressing? If that's the case I wonder if simply changing them to RT (even if they're playing LT) would make a difference?

I don't think so, because it's the LT POSITION in games that you simulate which let up far too many sacks. So the high sack totals LT's have causes their PBK skill to regress far more than it should. So whoever you put in the LT position will suffer. So you might spread the damage around, but the core problem will still be there whenever you simulate a game (for Human or CPU teams)

They need to fix LT's letting up too many sacks when you simulate a game.

EDIT: I mean it's worth a shot if someone wants to try it, but I think it's the LT position from what I understand, so sure, you could change everyone in the league to be a RT, but I still think the RT you put into the LT position will suffer the same fate of too many sacks let up, and thus, will still regress too much.

[LowerWolf]

Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

I'm disappointed the rookie speed issue wasn't fixed, but I'm ready to get started. It didn't really bother me too much when WRs lost all their speed on M15, so I'll deal with this as well.

[ultralow36]

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I'm disappointed the rookie speed issue wasn't fixed, but I'm ready to get started. It didn't really bother me too much when WRs lost all their speed on M15, so I'll deal with this as well.

Didnt someone say that they where going to just bump up the vets?

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[DCEBB2001]

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Agreed. You are saying that if Randy Moss came into the league and ran a 4.3 at the age of the 23, that he would still run a 4.35 at 33....and you have the data to back it up? No you don't- and even if you did the sample size of 10 year veterans would be too small to be statistically significant in any case.....And if not 40 times- what objective data would you rather they use to normalize speed ratings across the league?

1. Yes, I do have such data. I use it for my website. Perhaps you have heard of it? EA has.

2. Who said I had a sample size of ten veterans? I have a sample size of 71207 players dating back to 1999 from many different levels and leagues, including the NFL obviously.

3. If you want to get into it about Moss, let's do it. Here is what my data shows as his 40 times from year to year since 1998.

1998 (age 21): 4.28
2008: (age 31): 4.35
2013 (age 36): 4.41

In that time span he played 16 seasons and lost .13 seconds on his 40 in that time. That is an average of 0.008 seconds per season. However, in his first 10 seasons (1998 to 2007), his 40 didn't drop at all. He lost 0.07 in 2008 then stayed at 4.35 until 2013 where he fell of again to 4.41 where he is currently at until he is reevaluated.

4. As I stated several times on these boards, EA needs to incorporate the split times in order to fully calculate SPD, ACC, and STA. Only with the splits can you determine the cubic function necessary to determine maximal velocity and rate of acceleration identical to every player.

[jeremym480]

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I don't think so, because it's the LT POSITION in games that you simulate which let up far too many sacks. So the high sack totals LT's have causes their PBK skill to regress far more than it should. So whoever you put in the LT position will suffer. So you might spread the damage around, but the core problem will still be there whenever you simulate a game (for Human or CPU teams)

They need to fix LT's letting up too many sacks when you simulate a game.

EDIT: I mean it's worth a shot if someone wants to try it, but I think it's the LT position from what I understand, so sure, you could change everyone in the league to be a RT, but I still think the RT you put into the LT position will suffer the same fate of too many sacks let up, and thus, will still regress too much.

Yeah, you're probably right.

[Phobia]

Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

1. Yes, I do have such data. I use it for my website. Perhaps you have heard of it? EA has.

2. Who said I had a sample size of ten veterans? I have a sample size of 71207 players dating back to 1999 from many different levels and leagues, including the NFL obviously.

3. If you want to get into it about Moss, let's do it. Here is what my data shows as his 40 times from year to year since 1998.

1998 (age 21): 4.28
2008: (age 31): 4.35
2013 (age 36): 4.41

In that time span he played 16 seasons and lost .13 seconds on his 40 in that time. That is an average of 0.008 seconds per season. However, in his first 10 seasons (1998 to 2007), his 40 didn't drop at all. He lost 0.07 in 2008 then stayed at 4.35 until 2013 where he fell of again to 4.41 where he is currently at until he is reevaluated.

4. As I stated several times on these boards, EA needs to incorporate the split times in order to fully calculate SPD, ACC, and STA. Only with the splits can you determine the cubic function necessary to determine maximal velocity and rate of acceleration identical to every player.

I love real data.....

[tgiordano]

Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

Has the patch improved the framerate on Xbox one

[BadAssHskr]

Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

Didnt someone say that they where going to just bump up the vets?

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nothing officially has been stated (that i've seen), that they are going to adjust speed in the roster.

it has however been speculated early in this thread that perhaps they would adjust vets in the roster update, and that speculation coming from an old video, where at the 8:46 point they state that they can in fact adjust speed ratings.

besides that there is no word that it is in fact going to be adjusted.

i'm planning on starting my cfm at 10:30 pm tonight unless i hear otherwise.

perhaps someone else has better info, but i've been following the thread pretty closely. please correct me if i'm wrong, i'd like to know for sure.

[althor]

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Ok, LT Lewan started the preseason with overall 85 pb-84, rb-91.

Simmed season(6-10) left him with overall 80 pb-69,rb-92.

Conclusion, start a throwaway LT for the 4-6 games I SIM each season and start Lewan in the games I play. The other linemen all seemed to do just fine. They all lost atleast 1 but no more than 2 overall and most gained a point in pb or rb or both.

* Simmed a season with Lewan as backup and he ended with overall 87, pb-85, rb-92. So yeah switching him to back up when I sim will work for me.

[nomarhits400]

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1. Yes, I do have such data. I use it for my website. Perhaps you have heard of it? EA has.

2. Who said I had a sample size of ten veterans? I have a sample size of 71207 players dating back to 1999 from many different levels and leagues, including the NFL obviously.

3. If you want to get into it about Moss, let's do it. Here is what my data shows as his 40 times from year to year since 1998.

1998 (age 21): 4.28
2008: (age 31): 4.35
2013 (age 36): 4.41

In that time span he played 16 seasons and lost .13 seconds on his 40 in that time. That is an average of 0.008 seconds per season. However, in his first 10 seasons (1998 to 2007), his 40 didn't drop at all. He lost 0.07 in 2008 then stayed at 4.35 until 2013 where he fell of again to 4.41 where he is currently at until he is reevaluated.

4. As I stated several times on these boards, EA needs to incorporate the split times in order to fully calculate SPD, ACC, and STA. Only with the splits can you determine the cubic function necessary to determine maximal velocity and rate of acceleration identical to every player.

Tell me, I'm curious- since you have all the data: Where does the the 4.41 that Moss ran at age 36 compare to all wideout's in the NFL today?

[roadman]

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nothing officially has been stated (that i've seen), that they are going to adjust speed in the roster.

it has however been speculated early in this thread that perhaps they would adjust vets in the roster update, and that speculation coming from an old video, where at the 8:46 point they state that they can in fact adjust speed ratings.

besides that there is no word that it is in fact going to be adjusted.

i'm planning on starting my cfm at 10:30 pm tonight unless i hear otherwise.

perhaps someone else has better info, but i've been following the thread pretty closely. please correct me if i'm wrong, i'd like to know for sure.

I would clarify the interview is about 2 weeks old, I don't know if that still is old?

[bad_philanthropy]

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Interesting thing I'm seeing with some LT's is they are playing most snaps, giving up too many sacks and not having their PBK decline rapidly while some others are. Sacks doesn't seem the sole predictor of declining pbk?

[SolidSquid]

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Was enjoying default all madden before the patch but now it's back to all madden cheese.

Pre patch the cpu was tough to beat but it could be done, now I've played 8 games since downloading the patch and my defenders are just inept. They won't try to to play the ball or the man unless I manually switch to them, zone defense is worse then before as now guys just allow guys to catch the ball before even moving, safety play is suspect they will turn the wrong way on deep balls and sometimes no even play over the top, cpu wideouts are bringing down carches with 3 defenders around them.

[DCEBB2001]

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Tell me, I'm curious- since you have all the data: Where does the the 4.41 that Moss ran at age 36 compare to all wideout's in the NFL today?

Please specify. Do you want all players currently on the 53 man rosters, PS players, IR-included, free-agents included, the whole population or what? Do you only want WRs of a certain age? Reason being is that there are many NFL-caliber players who are not on rosters right now, but may be later on this year as injuries accrue and there are a million ways to frame your query.

[Dj_MyTime]

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So this is aggravating. Put out the long awaited patch, yet roster update is still two days away that will fix the veteran/rookie attributes. So really, it still isnt advised to start your league. Son of a b, why does it take so long for a roster update? Youre just changing attributes

Attributes, jersey numbers, player face scans, signing of players, release of players, trades, and player equipment. Not to mention the creation of UDFA's that made the final 53 man rosters.

It's not just the attributes that get updated as apart of this, while I agree it shouldn't take this long given their resources, I can also acknowledge it's a ton of crap to research and update.

Ideally IMO the updated rosters should drop the Tuesday following final cuts to 53, that gives over the weekend through Monday to get it all done.