NBA Live 16 Player Ratings - Top 6 Point Guards

[thesniper321]

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Personally I don't think the ratings should be the focal point....

They can give all of them 99 ratings it doesn't matter to me until I actually see the ratings mean something when the CPU AI is playing

Every year Chris Paul is rated 90+ in passing and really high in stealing yet every year I have the same complaints about him he is generic on the floor when you watch the Clippers play.

All this nit picking about a guy being 90 instead of 88 overall and we loose focus in these ratings as to what those actual ratings should mean for the players on the court when we play against them and EA has yet to live up to the billing when it comes to this IMO.

I'll be impressed if I fire up Live 16 and leave D.Jordan wide open and the AI Chris Paul recognizes that he's open for up top alley oop on my A$$ making me afraid of his 90+ passing ability and court vision

I'm guessing they will release these ratings up to release date but i'd caution you not guys not to get too carried away with one guy being rated higher than another guy especially if it turns out at the end of the day they are just numbers being assigned that have no IMPACT on the actual gameplay unless we are playing head to head and controlling the players ourselves for the most part.

this I have nothing to add

[bo.jangles344]

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What is this "contested 91" crap?

I understand it is very difficult to shoot 40% and higher in the nba and you have to take into account a lot of those are contested but i highly doubt he came anywhere close to hitting 91% of his contested shots.

Now, let's say you're giving contested shots an overall probability of hitting somewhere in the low 20% for the entire league average of contested shots, maybe I'll go for him having a 91% of that 20%.

But get out of here with that contested rating all together.

[mrprice33]

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What is this "contested 91" crap?



I understand it is very difficult to shoot 40% and higher in the nba and you have to take into account a lot of those are contested but i highly doubt he came anywhere close to hitting 91% of his contested shots.



Now, let's say you're giving contested shots an overall probability of hitting somewhere in the low 20% for the entire league average of contested shots, maybe I'll go for him having a 91% of that 20%.



But get out of here with that contested rating all together.

That's not how that works.

The contested shot rating relates to the penalty for shooting a contested shot ie if you have a 91 contested shot rating your penalty for shooting a contested shot is less than someone else who has a 61.


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[2_headedmonster]

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westbrook 90 dunk?

[Basketball Nate]

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westbrook 90 dunk?

You'd be satisfied if it was in the 60's instead?

[ybtherockstar]

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westbrook 90 dunk?

He should have a 90 dunk. Or at least close to a 90. He's the best dunking PG, the NBA has ever seen, at least in the last decade.

[dasunsrule32]

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He should have a 90 dunk. Or at least close to a 90. He's the best dunking PG, the NBA has ever seen, at least in the last decade.

I haven't seen a great dunking point guard like that, in his frame and build, since Kevin Johnson.

You could say Anfernee Hardaway, but he was 6'7".

[2_headedmonster]

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You'd be satisfied if it was in the 60's instead?

the man wasnt even top 50 in the number of dunks last season....Gordon Hayward and Ben McLemore dunked more than him.

[Basketball Nate]

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the man wasnt even top 50 in the number of dunks last season....Gordon Hayward and Ben McLemore dunked more than him.

Does that mean that Gordon Hayward is the better dunker then? Cause I refuse to believe that just going off the eye test of each others dunks. People wanna see Russell in the dunk contest, I can't say the same for Gordon Hayward.

[2_headedmonster]

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Does that mean that Gordon Hayward is the better dunker then? Cause I refuse to believe that just going off the eye test of each others dunks. People wanna see Russell in the dunk contest, I can't say the same for Gordon Hayward.

if a high dunk rating only symbolized style, then i could get behind this sentiment. However....

[WTF]

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The higher the rating, the better dunk packages they can have assigned. It's not the likelihood that they'll dunk, it's "how" they'll dunk it.

[Basketball Nate]

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If the rating wasn't based on style the man wouldn't have a 90 dunk rating bruh. The write up said he's the best at his position in that category, to me you can either give that rating to him or John Wall, both players bring explosiveness to the point guard position and Wall already won a dunk contest before.

[mrprice33]

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the man wasnt even top 50 in the number of dunks last season....Gordon Hayward and Ben McLemore dunked more than him.

Westbrook played in 67 games and attempted 54 dunks (.81 per game)

Hayward played in 76 games and attempted 50 dunks. (.66 per game)

McLemore played in 82 games and attempted 66 dunks. (.80 per game)

So, even if your stat made sense as it relates to the rating (which it doesn't), it's also wrong. So, yeah.

[2_headedmonster]

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The higher the rating, the better dunk packages they can have assigned. It's not the likelihood that they'll dunk, it's "how" they'll dunk it.

Ok, thats interesting. I still find it hard to believe that a 90 rating has NOTHING to do with frequency. That would be a first.

Westbrook played in 67 games and attempted 54 dunks (.81 per game)

Hayward played in 76 games and attempted 50 dunks. (.66 per game)

McLemore played in 82 games and attempted 66 dunks. (.80 per game)

So, even if your stat made sense as it relates to the rating (which it doesn't), it's also wrong. So, yeah.

Ok, the variable of games played means he still averages less than a dunk a game. So if 0.81 dunks per game = 90 that would imply a percentage point is worth 1.1 rating points and Deandre Jordan deserves a dunk rating of 337.

If you wanted to dq Jordan because most of his dunks they aren't off the dribble then Lebron would deserve a dunk rating of 102.

so yeah....

All that said, i'm going to take WTF at his word to a degree since he has inside insight, and see how it plays out.

[mrprice33]

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The dunk rating has absolutely no relation to how many dunks per game a player actually attempted. Otherwise Jeremy Evans would have a rating of 0.

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