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  • MSU ILLEST
    Rookie
    • Aug 2006
    • 214
    #1

    Post patch LT regression

    Please keep this thread respectful.

    After installing the patch, I simmed a season and noticed multiple left tackles gave up 25-35 sacks by the end of the year. This was with weekly progression on. I restarted the franchise and bumped the CPU pass blocking to 70 and had the same results. I restarted a 3rd time and imported CPU pass blocking sliders at 70 and again received the same results.

    I checked the rosters and noticed many left tackles pass blocking rating dropped from 80s to high 60s after giving up so many sacks. So it appears the regression works, however left tackles are giving up too many sacks and the sliders don't help. Last year the Jags gave up about 70 sacks as a teams so one player giving up 25-35 is a bit much. Let's work together to try different methods to resolve this.

    I have sent tweets to Rex at EA as well as Pasta Padre.

    Again, please keep negative comments to yourself. Let's be constructive!
    Originally posted by speedkills
    I just beat a team 87-3. .... Not bad if I do say so myself.

    The team I played against was called FCS. I don't recognize that school but I'd hate to be their football team in real life. I don't think they're going anywhere this year.
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    • yankees028
      Pro
      • May 2011
      • 602
      #2
      Re: Post patch LT regression

      Best thing I have seen so far is testing being done.
      Is people play testing changing all the QB's Sense Pressure and Throw Away to Ideal.
      Madden 20 Underrated Player Guide - 1st post has current updated players.
      https://forums.operationsports.com/f...yer-guide.html

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        • StefJoeHalt
          MVP
          • Feb 2014
          • 1058
          #3
          Re: Post patch LT regression

          Well as someone else tried u can change passing traits of QB to help..u can also change OL's traits of High Motor and Clutch..working on other things but doesn't look to have any success like these two


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            • MSU ILLEST
              Rookie
              • Aug 2006
              • 214
              #4
              Re: Post patch LT regression

              Here's a picture of the example.
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              Originally posted by speedkills
              I just beat a team 87-3. .... Not bad if I do say so myself.

              The team I played against was called FCS. I don't recognize that school but I'd hate to be their football team in real life. I don't think they're going anywhere this year.

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                • StefJoeHalt
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2014
                  • 1058
                  #5
                  Re: Post patch LT regression

                  Originally posted by yankees028
                  Best thing I have seen so far is testing being done.
                  Is people play testing changing all the QB's Sense Pressure and Throw Away to Ideal.

                  Correct would also be the easiest


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                    • MSU ILLEST
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 214
                      #6
                      Re: Post patch LT regression

                      Ok, I'll try those things. Thanks for your responses.
                      Originally posted by speedkills
                      I just beat a team 87-3. .... Not bad if I do say so myself.

                      The team I played against was called FCS. I don't recognize that school but I'd hate to be their football team in real life. I don't think they're going anywhere this year.

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                        • Oldsmobile19
                          Rookie
                          • Aug 2013
                          • 162
                          #7
                          Re: Post patch LT regression

                          I really had no idea people simmed so much. I guess EA has not really addressed the sim stat issue. I play so don't see this issue on my end. Perhaps EA doesnt take that into account and there is a need for some balance here with simmed games vs played games.
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                            • JayInSaratoga
                              Rookie
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 233
                              #8
                              Re: Post patch LT regression

                              Originally posted by Oldsmobile19
                              I really had no idea people simmed so much. I guess EA has not really addressed the sim stat issue. I play so don't see this issue on my end. Perhaps EA doesnt take that into account and there is a need for some balance here with simmed games vs played games.
                              I think people here were simming to test a theory.

                              Remember though, if you're playing all 16 games of you franchise, you are leaving the other 240 games in the regular season to be simmed. I don't think seeing the LTs of the other 31 teams regress badly leads to an challenging and enjoyable franchise experience after a few years.

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                                • althor
                                  Rookie
                                  • Sep 2015
                                  • 291
                                  #9
                                  Re: Post patch LT regression

                                  I just posted on the patch thread.. but...

                                  If you switch your RG to the LT position (not edit just in depth chart) and LT in the RG position, your RG will regress or improve properly.



                                  Here is what I did...

                                  I switched
                                  RG- Warmack 87 overall- pb-77/rb-93 with
                                  LT- Lewan 86 overall- pb-84/rb-91 making

                                  RG (playing LT)- Warmack- 82 overall same blocking.
                                  LT (playing RG)-Lewan- 91 overall same blocking.

                                  Simmed an entire season. (9-7)

                                  RG (playing LT)- Warmack- 83(+1) pb-80/rb-96
                                  LT (playing RG)- Lewan- 93(+3) pb-87/rb-94

                                  switched back to normal position

                                  RG(playing RG)- Warmack- 88(+2) same blocking
                                  LT(playing LT)- Lewan- 89(+4) same blocking


                                  I did this 4 times, the above being the 4th sim and the best.

                                  1st time they each had +/- 1 to 2 pts from original. (6-10)
                                  2nd time they were each unchanged. (8-8)
                                  3rd time Lewan was injured and returned to starting LT upon
                                  return Warmack was backup LT. Turned injury off 4th sim.
                                  Last edited by althor; 09-09-2015, 05:11 PM.

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                                    • bcruise
                                      Hall Of Fame
                                      • Mar 2004
                                      • 23274
                                      #10
                                      Re: Post patch LT regression

                                      Originally posted by JayInSaratoga
                                      I think people here were simming to test a theory.

                                      Remember though, if you're playing all 16 games of you franchise, you are leaving the other 240 games in the regular season to be simmed. I don't think seeing the LTs of the other 31 teams regress badly leads to an challenging and enjoyable franchise experience after a few years.
                                      Yeah, the bigger picture of a potential issue like this is what's going on in the rest of the league, not your own team.

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                                        • yankees028
                                          Pro
                                          • May 2011
                                          • 602
                                          #11
                                          Re: Post patch LT regression

                                          ya but we need a fix for the other teams.
                                          Madden 20 Underrated Player Guide - 1st post has current updated players.
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                                            • althor
                                              Rookie
                                              • Sep 2015
                                              • 291
                                              #12
                                              Re: Post patch LT regression

                                              ^Yeah thats true.

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                                                • yankees028
                                                  Pro
                                                  • May 2011
                                                  • 602
                                                  #13
                                                  Re: Post patch LT regression

                                                  Going to try this later and change the following QB's Sense Pressure and Throw Away to Ideal. Will turn injuires off and pick 5 teams and change all oft there QB's on there roster to above to see the impact it has over 3 years
                                                  Madden 20 Underrated Player Guide - 1st post has current updated players.
                                                  https://forums.operationsports.com/f...yer-guide.html

                                                  Former COD Pro / Streamer: xSiQx / CSn1pe

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                                                    • tef
                                                      Rookie
                                                      • Jul 2004
                                                      • 109
                                                      #14
                                                      Re: Post patch LT regression

                                                      I just ran a few more sims and the QB traits are having a big effect on the sack numbers.

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                                                        • yankees028
                                                          Pro
                                                          • May 2011
                                                          • 602
                                                          #15
                                                          Re: Post patch LT regression

                                                          Hopefully this will be a work around fix. Because aside from this I'm very happy with this years product.
                                                          Madden 20 Underrated Player Guide - 1st post has current updated players.
                                                          https://forums.operationsports.com/f...yer-guide.html

                                                          Former COD Pro / Streamer: xSiQx / CSn1pe

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