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  • jwelsh1
    Rookie
    • Jun 2009
    • 65

    #661
    Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

    Originally posted by drustrk3
    If anyone can (I'm at work) can we run some sims on a offline cfm with tuner deleted, and see what happens to Greg Robinsons pbk after a couple of seasons. I don't see how the tuner would effect the Sim engine, but I guess we never know. Hopeful since it's affecting (armor +sword) qb pocket presence post patch.

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    Okay, ran offline sim without the tuner. Greg Robinson pass block down to 64 after year 1, bad but not terrible.

    After year 2, 39 but ONLY ROBINSON and Oher are under 60.. Rest of league looks normal.

    I also checked qb awareness, no major drops at all. Looks normal to an eyeball test.

    Again, this is offline, no tuner, default sliders



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    • DeuceDouglas
      Madden Dev Team
      • Apr 2010
      • 4297

      #662
      Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

      I think what happened with the LT issue was that they tuned the amount that they regressed so that regression wouldn't be as harsh for the penalties but that wasn't the issue. The issue is the sim stats and LT's giving up absurdly high amounts of sacks which wasn't fixed which is what is leading to these wonky regressions.

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      • Cpre5
        Blowing bubbles
        • Jul 2002
        • 3100

        #663
        Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

        Did the patch fix the Injured reserve still counting to the 53?

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        • Danimal
          MVP
          • Mar 2003
          • 2198

          #664
          Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

          Originally posted by howboutdat
          We have human qb slider at 35 and see pleanty of 50-55% completion percentages. If your issue is with CPU qb, maybe try turning slider down to 25, see what happens. We keep our qb slider up intentionally to make it much harder to beat the cpu if you happen to have to play a cpu team which is rare in our league. Just a thought.
          Not to sound dismissive but I understand that. I simply saying with no slider adjustments at all on All-Pro i was seeing normal percentages and plenty of errant throws in Play Now until yesterday but not in CFM. Now maybe deleting the tuner will fix Play Now but I want to play CFM and the game plays differently.

          There is one difference between Play Now and CFM and it's confidence system. Seems to me if it walks like a duck, sounds like a duck well you know the rest,
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          • knicksfan111
            Rookie
            • Nov 2013
            • 106

            #665
            Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

            I just played as the Jets against the Browns in week 1 of cfm. The game played fine. Both Ryan Fitzpatrick and Jonny Manziel struggled throwing throughout the game. I wasn't having any Qb scrambling issues. This was with the new patch and tuner. I was also using A&S sliders

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            • SteelCityColt
              Rookie
              • Nov 2014
              • 69

              #666
              Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

              I was hoping the patch landing would let me finally get cracking on CFM but reading through this post and the possible issues with the tuner (is this only in CFM it's causing issues?) and the progression/regression issues I feel like we're no nearer forward.

              To be clear I'm not ranting about this being a broken game etc. I'm enjoying MUT enough at the moment but I buy this game for CFM and after initially thinking it was a step forward into getting back to having a solid sim part to the game it seems the old issues are still there with new ones to boot.

              Torn between starting a CFM or just playing something else to another patch lands. There's too much confusion at the moment about whether the tuner needs removing etc.

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              • booker21
                MVP
                • Jun 2003
                • 4928

                #667
                Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

                Originally posted by Danimal
                Came to the thread to post my observations and see I'm not alone. Played 3 CFM games not a single QB under 70% completion percentage. Any missed passed were break ups, didn't see on errant throw like before.

                This game plays night and day difference between Play Now and CFM. It's so noticeable to anyone who looks, obviously the confidence / drive goals thing is the culprit as many have noted.

                Probably not possible for this year but please allow us to turn this off. This isn't Call of Duty or an MMO. I don't need boosts or the next great piece of loot. I don't need the carrot dangling on a stick routine to keep me playing.

                I don't know how I feel about this game only being able to enjoy it in Play Now. I'm really hoping they can do something about this.
                I´m glad people are starting to see this as well. I was so happy when playing play now games that i tweeted Clint and rex that this was the best madden in years. Then i started a CFM and i was so disappointed to see all the good things i had on Play now gone. User QB not missing passes, OL pancake DL (LT Albert something was 89) and RE was 85 and he still pancake him several times.

                It started ok, but then it was a snowball. I´m wondering how hard it can be to have the same game on Play now as CFM? why? why? so close yet so far.

                This was all pro default btw.
                English, is not my first language.

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                • booker21
                  MVP
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 4928

                  #668
                  Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

                  Originally posted by knicksfan111
                  I just played as the Jets against the Browns in week 1 of cfm. The game played fine. Both Ryan Fitzpatrick and Jonny Manziel struggled throwing throughout the game. I wasn't having any Qb scrambling issues. This was with the new patch and tuner. I was also using A&S sliders
                  wait a few weeks until your confidence get over 60 or 75. Johny football will be the Texas AM Johny, with a gene of J.Montana in it
                  English, is not my first language.

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                  • KingV2k3
                    Senior Circuit
                    • May 2003
                    • 5881

                    #669
                    Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

                    It's time to "toggle off" Confidence...

                    That box feature is now "oh fer two" and will most likely be eliminated in the long run anyway, so please get rid of it now!

                    The LT issue is thought to be complicated, but perhaps attacking that though the sim stat engine would turn that trick...

                    I'm not interested in playing ANY more other than CFM, so it's time for the EA guys to cut their losses on poorly conceived and implemented features and just give us this year's Play Now gameplay in a CFM context...

                    I'm traveling, so my copy is in the post via today's $39.99 deal with Amazon...

                    It's not making it out of the shrinkwrap until CFM is playable...

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                    • drustrk3
                      Rookie
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 271

                      #670
                      Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

                      Originally posted by jwelsh1
                      Okay, ran offline sim without the tuner. Greg Robinson pass block down to 64 after year 1, bad but not terrible.

                      After year 2, 39 but ONLY ROBINSON and Oher are under 60.. Rest of league looks normal.

                      I also checked qb awareness, no major drops at all. Looks normal to an eyeball test.

                      Again, this is offline, no tuner, default sliders



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                      Thank you sir. I know also that Foles traits for throw away and "pocket awareness"? We're no and whatever the opposite of trigger happy was too. I don't remember cams for oher. I might roll with this if we can get more testing done to see if it's minimized for some reason with no tuner and offline cfm.

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                      • jwelsh1
                        Rookie
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 65

                        #671
                        Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

                        I'm running another right now while I'm out at lunch, but if this is the extent of the pas block regression issue then I am not too worried. So two left tackles with high pedigree become unable to play football in two years? Not terribly unrealistic. It's not even inconceivable that coaches would keep starting them even though they can't play.

                        Was it many more players in cfm? Or with tuner installed?


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                        • LivingLegend
                          The Living Legend
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 583

                          #672
                          Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

                          Did I miss something, or is there a reason players overalls randomly drop 60+ points mid game?
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                          • drustrk3
                            Rookie
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 271

                            #673
                            Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

                            Originally posted by jwelsh1
                            I'm running another right now while I'm out at lunch, but if this is the extent of the pas block regression issue then I am not too worried. So two left tackles with high pedigree become unable to play football in two years? Not terribly unrealistic. It's not even inconceivable that coaches would keep starting them even though they can't play.

                            Was it many more players in cfm? Or with tuner installed?


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                            Not to throw us off topic but my teams good right tackle retired/ went on a hiatus this year. I can pretend the same is happening for oher and robinson.

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                            • BlackBetty15
                              MVP
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 1548

                              #674
                              Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

                              Originally posted by jwelsh1
                              I'm running another right now while I'm out at lunch, but if this is the extent of the pas block regression issue then I am not too worried. So two left tackles with high pedigree become unable to play football in two years? Not terribly unrealistic. It's not even inconceivable that coaches would keep starting them even though they can't play.

                              Was it many more players in cfm? Or with tuner installed?




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                              I also wonder if it's isolated to those two LT...MAYBE we can just edit the traits of those QBs to counter that and be done with it. This confidence mess is bad.
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                              • drustrk3
                                Rookie
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 271

                                #675
                                Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

                                Originally posted by BlackBetty15
                                I also wonder if it's isolated to those two LT...MAYBE we can just edit the traits of those QBs to counter that and be done with it. This confidence mess is bad.
                                Yup, edit in your roster before starting cfm. Short term fix but might work for 2 seasons or so

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