Yup definitely not a full price purchase for me either...but with whatI just saw I will say this if live takes care of business with franchise mode in the near future and fix some legacy issues...I wont mind paying the 59.99 price for it. Its not quite there yet for me from what i've seen, but I'd be a fool not to recognize the progress being made. That Pro am/initiate play menu clip impressed me I must say...Keep it up Live!!!