[vannwolfhawk]

Sorry I unleashed the beast! Haha

Rashidi, you came with all this data and pulled out certain years to support your argument but I could do the same. You can't just go off numbers and as some said the eye test needs to come into play. What also comes into play is systems or teams they played on. Most guys in today's NBA would only be considered power forwards. You can't argue guys today lack post moves. Gone is the jump hook, up and under, post fadeaways, etc. it's almost all face up now or power drop steps.

If you compiled a list of the bottom 15-20 guys today with the 10-15 of let's say 87 or 88 which was what I originally commented about them maybe we could compare.

Kareem Abdul-jabaar
Akeem Olajuwon
Pat Ewing
Ralph Sampson
Mark Eaton
Bill Laimbeer
Kevin Willis
James Donaldson
Robert Parish
Bill Cartwright
Moses Malone
John Salley
Jack Sikma
Paul Mokeski
Brad Daugherty
Alvin Adams
James Edwards
Benoit Benjamin
Alton Listor
Clemson Johnson
Joe Barry Carroll
Sam Bowie
Kevin Duckworth
Artis Gimore
Frank brickowski
LaSalle Thompson
Joe Klein
Danny schayes
Blair Rasmussen
Kent benson
Bill Wennington
Manute Bol

The size alone back then compared to now was night and day although like I said earlier no doubt players are more athletic nowadays. But you can't tell me today's 15-20 centers (pf back in these days) are better than these guys. I'm not sure how old you are so maybe all you have to go off is numbers but I watched these guys play and their fundamentals, post moves, and defense are way ahead of today's players. Athleticism, no. Ability to guard perimeter, no. But strictly on the blocks and in the post not even an argument really.