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  • roadman
    *ll St*r
    • Aug 2003
    • 26339

    #1111
    Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

    Originally posted by DrDoctor
    I understand. I'm just saying that raising the speed of some older CB's doesnt solve the issue of the generated rookies being overpowered when it comes to SPD, possibly the most important attribute in the league.

    Odell Beckham is 91SPD 90ACC. I can draft about 15 rookies each season who blow him away.
    And I get that also, all I am saying is the developer thought this was the best decision going forward for this issue.

    We'll see if there are other decisions in the near future.

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    • StevenSD
      MVP
      • Sep 2013
      • 1764

      #1112
      Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

      Originally posted by DrDoctor
      Odell Beckham is 91SPD 90ACC. I can draft about 15 rookies each season who blow him away.
      Maybe in those categories only, but it's hard to find a rookie that has his catching attributes out the gate.

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      • DrDoctor
        Rookie
        • Dec 2009
        • 200

        #1113
        Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

        Originally posted by StevenSD
        Maybe in those categories only, but it's hard to find a rookie that has his catching attributes out the gate.
        Agreed, but when your WR can outrun literally everyone, his catching attributes seem to matter less. In my first franchise I drafted a 6'2" WR with 99SPD/98ACC who had decent catching abilities. I played on All-Madden with some decent sliders, and there was not one CB in the league that could cover him. He typically was +6-10SPD faster than any opposing corner.

        I feel like the solution is just to NOT draft those guys, I guess.
        Last edited by DrDoctor; 09-12-2015, 01:03 PM. Reason: missed a word

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        • IcedCoffee1983
          Banned
          • Jul 2015
          • 836

          #1114
          Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

          Originally posted by BlackBetty15
          AND bring Madden 16 to the fire mountain of mordar. Can't forget that, and when things go wrong, just blame the Patriots for the mishap...seems the legit way to operate.
          ....

          Originally posted by DrDoctor
          I understand. I'm just saying that raising the speed of some older CB's doesnt solve the issue of the generated rookies being overpowered when it comes to SPD, possibly the most important attribute in the league.

          Odell Beckham is 91SPD 90ACC. I can draft about 15 rookies each season who blow him away.
          I understand your point and you're definitely right in some aspects. However those young guys might have speed but they won't have stellar technical skills in year one. Not until you build up their rookie skills.

          Also keep in mind as young generated WR's come in your CFM, so will young generated CB's and Safeties, as more and more years go by in your CFM.

          So I agree it's a problem in the stock roster vs generated rookies, but they did up some older guys, you can adjust the speed threshold to universally fix it if you want, and long term your CFM will have both fast CB's and WR's.

          Kinda stinks, but not huge for me.

          I'd rather they fix broken CFM Aut-Sub sliders, and LT regression, and this stupid drive goals/confidence thing.

          Then we have a game to play.
          Last edited by kehlis; 09-12-2015, 01:30 PM. Reason: Political discussion, even in jest, is not permitted.

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          • IcedCoffee1983
            Banned
            • Jul 2015
            • 836

            #1115
            Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

            Originally posted by Mike Lowe
            I'm pretty sure some tuning has taken place in online CFM. I just simmed 10 years and I'm not seeing issues with QB awareness, LT pass blocking. I'm still seeing some speedy WR but I have yet to use the newly released Week 1 roster.

            This was with the patch installed BEFORE the tuner update as I was on vacation when these dropped.

            10 years of 100% sim.
            Wait, is this true? This could be huge...

            Also is the current advice, to delete and re-install the tuner? (so it reinstalls with the patch already installed?)

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            • JumpOffMang
              Rookie
              • May 2014
              • 206

              #1116
              Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

              The overpowered rookies are kind of a big deal for competitive online connected franchises. The raising of some CBs from 83 to 85 speed really doesn't make a difference

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              • bkrich83
                Has Been
                • Jul 2002
                • 71572

                #1117
                Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

                Originally posted by JumpOffMang
                The overpowered rookies are kind of a big deal for competitive online connected franchises. The raising of some CBs from 83 to 85 speed really doesn't make a difference
                Based on what metric or testing?
                Tracking my NCAA Coach Career

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                • bkrich83
                  Has Been
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 71572

                  #1118
                  Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

                  Originally posted by IcedCoffee1983
                  ....



                  I understand your point and you're definitely right in some aspects. However those young guys might have speed but they won't have stellar technical skills in year one. Not until you build up their rookie skills.

                  Also keep in mind as young generated WR's come in your CFM, so will young generated CB's and Safeties, as more and more years go by in your CFM.

                  So I agree it's a problem in the stock roster vs generated rookies, but they did up some older guys, you can adjust the speed threshold to universally fix it if you want, and long term your CFM will have both fast CB's and WR's.

                  Kinda stinks, but not huge for me.

                  I'd rather they fix broken CFM Aut-Sub sliders, and LT regression, and this stupid drive goals/confidence thing.

                  Then we have a game to play.
                  I had read in some places that and maybe Millenium can verify that the draft class speeds are simply their combine 40 time with zero age regression. If that's the case I am ok with it. I also believe people put way too much weight in the speed rating when it comes to this version of the game. Imo, no longer the sole dominant trait.
                  Tracking my NCAA Coach Career

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                  • JumpOffMang
                    Rookie
                    • May 2014
                    • 206

                    #1119
                    Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

                    Originally posted by bkrich83
                    Based on what metric or testing?
                    Based off playing the game. I can use a 98 speed rookie receiver and out run the CB and sometimes even a cover 2 safety on a streak for a touchdown. If there is no safety help the rookie receiver wins every time.

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                    • BleedGreen710
                      Eagles Fan
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 4025

                      #1120
                      Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

                      Originally posted by BleedGreen710
                      so what do i need to do to get a good franchise? so far through skimming I've seen the following being suggested

                      set control to all 32 teams
                      set CPU progression to weekly
                      delete tuner

                      is that accurate?

                      anything else?
                      really looking for some clarification

                      thanks in advance

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                      • Finn
                        Rookie
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 328

                        #1121
                        Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

                        Originally posted by BleedGreen710
                        really looking for some clarification

                        thanks in advance
                        Yes that is correct. After deleting the tuner and being sure that the patch has been installed you can then redownload the tuner and it should help alleviate the problems people have seen.

                        By doing the 32 team control you will no longer experience drive goals that boost confidence over the long run of a CFM.

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                        • kenchun24
                          Rookie
                          • Aug 2013
                          • 57

                          #1122
                          "Madden Season" isn't late August...that's for Fantasy Football prep/drafts and the last pre-season action before the kickoff starts. Madden Season in late November, after the game has been fully patched, tested by the community, and is priced at it's more deserving $34.99 tag at big box store Thanksgiving weekend sales.

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                          • NEOPARADIGM
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 2788

                            #1123
                            Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

                            Originally posted by StevenSD
                            Maybe in those categories only, but it's hard to find a rookie that has his catching attributes out the gate.
                            And route-running, awareness, run block & run block footwork, catch-in-traffic, spectacular catch, consistency, and on and on. I could barely care less about speed so long as the guy isn't SLOW; just about, I dunno, EVERYTHING ELSE is more important.

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                            • IcedCoffee1983
                              Banned
                              • Jul 2015
                              • 836

                              #1124
                              Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

                              Originally posted by Mike Lowe
                              I'm pretty sure some tuning has taken place in online CFM. I just simmed 10 years and I'm not seeing issues with QB awareness, LT pass blocking. I'm still seeing some speedy WR but I have yet to use the newly released Week 1 roster.

                              This was with the patch installed BEFORE the tuner update as I was on vacation when these dropped.

                              10 years of 100% sim.
                              Has anyone checked on this?

                              This would be huge if Mike is right..

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                              • JumpOffMang
                                Rookie
                                • May 2014
                                • 206

                                #1125
                                Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #1 Available Now, Roster Update Scheduled For Friday

                                Originally posted by NEOPARADIGM
                                And route-running, awareness, run block & run block footwork, catch-in-traffic, spectacular catch, consistency, and on and on. I could barely care less about speed so long as the guy isn't SLOW; just about, I dunno, EVERYTHING ELSE is more important.
                                You can upgrade +10 in every one of those stats for the same exp as a +1 to speed. It might be more important if your casually playing the computer, but speed is #1 in competitive matches

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