PES 2016 Available Today, Post Your Impressions

[RoyceDa59]

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Dribbling with little variety? So if we are passing the ball, we aren't going to get fouled? What about 50-50 balls, do those result in fouls? Any fouls for when a player miscontrols the ball and their attempt to gain control of it again results in a foul?

I'm not trying to be smart, but you're the first person to describe how you've been fouled by the CPU.

FWIW, higher difficulties on PES has notoriously been known to produce more of a challenge, but in all previous PES - the higher the difficulty, the more gaps that open up because of the aggression level (PES3-PES6) shown by the players. I hope this isn't the case.

It is rare to see a foul call on 50-50 balls from what I have played and I don't think the PES series have ever got that right.

I do get the complaints people are making about fouls there are in the game just very random but people must have forgotten that they really have never been done that well in any footy game until Fifa 15 in which the variety of ways you can get fouled.

[KG]

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My 1st game felt like it was on warp speed (default speed) but I realized I didn't have the 1.01 update. After that the flow has felt good.

Even got in 2 online matches against another OS'er and it was absolutely lag free. Aside from some missed fouls both matches were great against another all-manual user. A 2-1 game between Zenit/Valencia and a 1-0 Milan Derby.

[orion523]

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Since I'm all but getting FIFA for free, I went ahead and purchased PES. Tomorrow, I'll be waking up to both games, damn near like Christmas.

[TeleTex82]

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Since I'm all but getting FIFA for free, I went ahead and purchased PES. Tomorrow, I'll be waking up to both games, damn near like Christmas.

And that was the last time anybody saw Orion again...

[RoyceDa59]

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Since I'm all but getting FIFA for free, I went ahead and purchased PES. Tomorrow, I'll be waking up to both games, damn near like Christmas.

Yup, similar situation here pretty much got both games for the price of one.

[Necrosis]

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Don't know if this has been said already, but the pc version is a port from the PS3/360 game.

Nice job, Konami.

[Matt10]

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Finally on PES 16 now...first time loading the game, come watch if you'd like:

http://www.twitch.tv/matt10l

[max77p]

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finding it way too easy to keep possession and get goals...even on top player difficulty. i also reduced game speed to -1 and playing on manual shooting...

[dubcity]

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finding it way too easy to keep possession and get goals...even on top player difficulty. i also reduced game speed to -1 and playing on manual shooting...

Yeah, the CPU defense has issues, particularly in their 1/3. I'm finding it too easy to sprint down the middle and get shots off. It's like the defenders just don't want to commit to closing down or just can't. And the new collision system animations makes it easier to evade them without even trying when I'm running. I'm playing on Superstar and this is still the case.

I had a game earlier where I was intentionally trying to exploit the zig-zag sprinting down the center of midfield, and I ended up with like 18 shots on target.

[ty5oke]

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I thought they said it was a hybrid. So far loving the game on PC, seems slower than the PS4 demo.

[Matt10]

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Finally on PES 16 now...first time loading the game, come watch if you'd like:

http://www.twitch.tv/matt10l

@dmendenhall_9

You are absolutely correct about Fluid Formations ON. IT MUST BE ON.

When I started playing on the stream, the defensive line was in utter shambles (left CB following attacker deep into the box, resulting in easy chances for both user and CPU).

It wasn't until late into the night, after testing on SuperStar and Top Player, that Fluid Formation does in fact need to be on. However, all you need to do is change the "Numbers in Attack" and "Numbers in Defense" to FEW. That's it.

Once I changed both of those to "FEW" for user and CPU team...it was like a whole new game. I am absolutely relieved because I was ready to uninstall the game.

So thanks again, @dmendenhall_9 - may have just saved PES for me.

[half-fast]

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Played four more games just now. I'm starting to get a hang on ball handling, but Id still prefer it to be more like fifa, where the controls feel more responsive and you actually feel like youre pulling off a deke.

Had my first game with zero fouls, a bit annoying, but considering the game is on 10 min halves, quite short and the action was hot. Played the next game against Napoli and there were three fouls, and a mix of slow and fast action. Scored some wonky goals, which was disheartening, until i remembered that the two games before it all the goals were staple goals, so it was nice to see some flukes.

Game definitely needs some tweaking, but enjoying it overall.

[TeleTex82]

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@dmendenhall_9

You are absolutely correct about Fluid Formations ON. IT MUST BE ON.

When I started playing on the stream, the defensive line was in utter shambles (left CB following attacker deep into the box, resulting in easy chances for both user and CPU).

It wasn't until late into the night, after testing on SuperStar and Top Player, that Fluid Formation does in fact need to be on. However, all you need to do is change the "Numbers in Attack" and "Numbers in Defense" to FEW. That's it.

Once I changed both of those to "FEW" for user and CPU team...it was like a whole new game. I am absolutely relieved because I was ready to uninstall the game.

So thanks again, @dmendenhall_9 - may have just saved PES for me.

Yep, fluid formations is a must. I know PES gets flak for not having sliders, but I'm finding the tactics to be very effective.

[nunogomes]

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@dmendenhall_9

You are absolutely correct about Fluid Formations ON. IT MUST BE ON.

When I started playing on the stream, the defensive line was in utter shambles (left CB following attacker deep into the box, resulting in easy chances for both user and CPU).

It wasn't until late into the night, after testing on SuperStar and Top Player, that Fluid Formation does in fact need to be on. However, all you need to do is change the "Numbers in Attack" and "Numbers in Defense" to FEW. That's it.

Once I changed both of those to "FEW" for user and CPU team...it was like a whole new game. I am absolutely relieved because I was ready to uninstall the game.

So thanks again, @dmendenhall_9 - may have just saved PES for me.

Yep, fluid formations is a must. I know PES gets flak for not having sliders, but I'm finding the tactics to be very effective.

Ok, just to clarify some aspects of this:

- Fluid formations is the CPU (or human player) having the team changing tactics when on offense and defense (and kick off, but let´s leave that aside).
- When i say tactics it´s for example, from a 4-3-3 on offense (when in possession setting) to a 4-5-1 when on defense (out of possession setting).
- Not only we can set the tactics for these two moments, we can also change the Team Instructions for EACH of these tactics. This is extremely important!
- Even with fluid formations OFF, if we change the Team Instructions when in possession and when out of possession, they will take effect! It´s not necessary to have this Fluid Formations ON for the Team Instructions to have effect, BUT it´s needed IF we want the team to change the formation when in and out of possession. This is a key difference.

Also, about how the defence behaves in this game... when you play against a CPU team (im assuming Superstar difficulty, everything below is easy) you will see teams defend completely different depending on these settings:

- Are the team instructions to press high up the pitch or not?
- Are the team instructions to be agressive or conservative (this will make the defenders to play on top of you OR to give you space and try to intercept passes.
- Are the team instructions set to defend the centre or wide? If they are to wide, the team will try to make you play to the wings (it´s NOT for you to protect the flanks, it actualy makes the defense more central, to FORCE you to play WIDE).
- How is the defensive line? High or low? Big teams is usually high, low teams it´s usually close to their goal.

And these are only the main one on defence, some offensive settings also affect how you defend...

So, pay a lot of attention to tactics (yours and CPU) in this game because they have a pronounced effect on them.

Also, the FEW, MEDIUM and MANY setting on offense and defense is crucial.

Example: if you set to MANY both on offense and defense, it will completely exaust your players, but you will get that coast to coast football some prefer, but your team will always be out of place of course....

[nunogomes]

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Sorry, forgot one more thing. Matt, about this:

It wasn't until late into the night, after testing on SuperStar and Top Player, that Fluid Formation does in fact need to be on. However, all you need to do is change the "Numbers in Attack" and "Numbers in Defense" to FEW. That's it.
Once I changed both of those to "FEW" for user and CPU team...it was like a whole new game. I am absolutely relieved because I was ready to uninstall the game.

Remember, you don´t need Fluid Formations ON for these FEW on offense and FEW on defense to have effect. They will tack effect on the formation you choose (and this formation won´t change on offense and defense if Fluid Formations are off, but the FEW on offense and defense take effect).

Im sorry if im being to specific, but i feel there isn´t a very good feel about the tactics on this game due to the fact that everybody plays fifa here.