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  • YaBoial
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    • Apr 2014
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    #196
    Re: NBA 2K16 Player Ratings - Top Rated Point Guards (UPDATED)

    U guys are missing the fact that wroten plays at a far higher pace than the bulls. Which caters to his game and had more possessions

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    • MGSW
      Banned
      • Aug 2015
      • 279

      #197
      Re: NBA 2K16 Player Ratings - Top Rated Point Guards (UPDATED)

      Originally posted by Hopsin
      I watched every bulls game last year, I can say his athleticism is still there, now did he use it as much as in the past no. Not at all, but that stems from not playing so long and honestly being tentative.
      I guess you could take his rust + tentativeness as saying it took a huge blow, but I know it's there and I honestly believe only wall and westbrooke are more athletic. As far as PGs
      You're entitled to believe whatever you want but there's no evidence to back it up.

      I would LOVE to see Rose return to his former level of athleticism. But those injuries have long term repercussions and so far there's no evidence of this happening.

      Fact is, right now. They're comparable athletically.

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      • Hopsin
        Pro
        • Jul 2012
        • 753

        #198
        Re: NBA 2K16 Player Ratings - Top Rated Point Guards (UPDATED)

        Originally posted by MGSW
        You're entitled to believe whatever you want but there's no evidence to back it up.



        I would LOVE to see Rose return to his former level of athleticism. But those injuries have long term repercussions and so far there's no evidence of this happening.



        Fact is, right now. They're comparable athletically.

        There's technically no evidence to prove otherwise, but agree to disagree.

        I don't really see the comparisons honestly he's a poor mans drose. Put the stats aside, he doesn't have any of the intangibles Rose has. You don't game plan for Wroten as you would Rose. Wroten doesn't strike fear into the defense as Rose does. You don't have to worry about him taking over a game or having a huge night.. (Maybe a la mo Williams). It's just crazy how people can actually compare the two.
        (That wasn't directed towards you MGSW, just at the argument period).

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        • Hopsin
          Pro
          • Jul 2012
          • 753

          #199
          Re: NBA 2K16 Player Ratings - Top Rated Point Guards (UPDATED)

          Originally posted by YaBoial
          U guys are missing the fact that wroten plays at a far higher pace than the bulls. Which caters to his game and had more possessions

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          Exactly the 76ers although not great played in a free flowing style while the bulls played at a snails pace. Which is one reason I believe Rose will end up being a 89 at least. With Fred as the coach it might revitalize him.

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          • MGSW
            Banned
            • Aug 2015
            • 279

            #200
            Re: NBA 2K16 Player Ratings - Top Rated Point Guards (UPDATED)

            Originally posted by Hopsin
            Exactly the 76ers although not great played in a free flowing style while the bulls played at a snails pace. Which is one reason I believe Rose will end up being a 89 at least. With Fred as the coach it might revitalize him.
            How you feeling about Fred? He loves the long range shooting. You think that suits the roster?

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            • Sundown
              MVP
              • Oct 2010
              • 3270

              #201
              Re: NBA 2K16 Player Ratings - Top Rated Point Guards (UPDATED)

              Originally posted by Hopsin
              Exactly the 76ers although not great played in a free flowing style while the bulls played at a snails pace. Which is one reason I believe Rose will end up being a 89 at least. With Fred as the coach it might revitalize him.
              Heh, I do think expecting Rose to end up being at least the level of Westbrook and CP3 next season is just a little optimistic.

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              • Hopsin
                Pro
                • Jul 2012
                • 753

                #202
                Re: NBA 2K16 Player Ratings - Top Rated Point Guards (UPDATED)

                Originally posted by MGSW
                How you feeling about Fred? He loves the long range shooting. You think that suits the roster?

                I think he does, we have capable shooters to stretch the floor, but if he can conquer the challenge of getting Rose and Butler to excel, this season could be special.
                In all honesty though, I'm just glad we are moving on from Thibs offense.. No more dribble dribble dribble till the last 5 seconds in the shot clock and take a long 2.

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                • Hopsin
                  Pro
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 753

                  #203
                  Re: NBA 2K16 Player Ratings - Top Rated Point Guards (UPDATED)

                  Originally posted by Sundown
                  Heh, I do think expecting Rose to end up being at least the level of Westbrook and CP3 next season is just a little optimistic.

                  Yeah I could be a little to optimistic honestly. But with a whole offseason of workouts without rehabbing could be a nice difference maker.
                  I just want him healthy first and foremost.

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                  • UnbelievablyRAW
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 1245

                    #204
                    Re: NBA 2K16 Player Ratings - Top 10 Point Guards

                    Rose shouldn't even be the the 80s if this is going by last season and the ones before it. Dude is just above mediocre on the court. For a while at the beginning of last season Chalmers had better stats than Rose.

                    People saying they'd take him over Lowry, Dragic etc are just wishful thinkers hoping he makes a comeback. These ratings are weighed heavily on recent play

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                    • Kstat
                      Pro
                      • Sep 2015
                      • 584

                      #205
                      Re: NBA 2K16 Player Ratings - Top Rated Point Guards (UPDATED)

                      The harsh truth with Rose is this: he was almost totally reliant on his amazing athleticism, and now his knees are shot. He can't move or jump like he used to, and even though he's still pretty mobile for a big guard he doesn't have the skill set to be elite playing below the rim like CP3 or Curry.

                      His last hope is he can re-invent himself like McDyess did when his knees gave out on him and discover some fundamentals that he was missing. But even Dyess never reached all-star level post-surgery.

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                      • Real2KInsider
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                        • Dec 2003
                        • 4662

                        #206
                        Re: NBA 2K16 Player Ratings - Top Rated Point Guards (UPDATED)

                        Originally posted by Hopsin
                        Tony Wroten more athletic than Rose? Lol okay.
                        Predictably, from a guy with a Bulls avatar.

                        Wroten has 46 dunks (3.8% of FGA) in his 2,932 minute career (3 years).
                        Rose has 18 dunks (1.0%) over his last 3,216 minutes (3 years).
                        Rose has 93 dunks (1.6%) over his 12,113 minute career.

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                        • MGSW
                          Banned
                          • Aug 2015
                          • 279

                          #207
                          Re: NBA 2K16 Player Ratings - Top Rated Point Guards (UPDATED)

                          Originally posted by Rashidi
                          Predictably, from a guy with a Bulls avatar.

                          Wroten has 46 dunks (3.8% of FGA) in his 2,932 minute career (3 years).
                          Rose has 18 dunks (1.0%) over his last 3,216 minutes (3 years).
                          Rose has 93 dunks (1.6%) over his 12,113 minute career.

                          Learn the league beyond your own team and/or big names.
                          To be fair there's more to athleticism thank dunks. Besides if you're 6'6 and can't dunk you're just plain lazy haha.

                          For athleticism I'm looking at hops, speed, stamina, acceleration, body control in the air (sign of a great core, a la Wall), ability to change direction quickly, lateral movement/speed, strength and other stuff.

                          Just looking at dunks is really simplifying it.

                          But hey. That's just me.

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                          • Kstat
                            Pro
                            • Sep 2015
                            • 584

                            #208
                            Re: NBA 2K16 Player Ratings - Top Rated Point Guards (UPDATED)

                            ....so to make tony wroten look athletic, we're comparing him to the point guard version of Bill Walton? Seriously?

                            Wroten is an okay athlete, but nothing special. He's 6'6." Am I supposed to be impressed that he can dunk on two healthy legs at a better rate than 6'3" Derrick Rose from his wheelchair?

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                            • MontanaMan
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 1160

                              #209
                              Re: NBA 2K16 Player Ratings - Top Rated Point Guards (UPDATED)

                              Lolwut @ equating number of dunks to athleticism.

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                              • Mauer4MVP
                                MVP
                                • Mar 2010
                                • 2407

                                #210
                                Re: NBA 2K16 Player Ratings - Top 10 Point Guards (UPDATED)

                                Originally posted by Sundown
                                Yikes. Is that official? Rubio's shooting is horrid but he's a good defender in addition to his passing. I suppose that's kind of interesting that it matches the fact that offensively inept PGs really hurt you in the league.
                                Yeah, but it's kind of like Iggy's rating. Like the difference last year between Mo running point and Rubio was night and day. It wasn't even close. You could tell the team played so much better with Rubio at point even when he was struggling to score.

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