NBA 2K16 Player Ratings - Top 10 Players

[Real2KInsider]

Re: NBA 2K16 Player Ratings - Top 10 Players

Cue Rashidi turning into the hulk.

Bearing in mind that OVR is skewed in favor of PGs and nerfs bigs, my Top 10 from 2K15

95 (+5) Chris Paul (LAC, 26.0 PER)
94 (-1) Stephen Curry (GSW, 28.0 PER)
94 (-2) LeBron James (CLE, 25.9 PER)
91 (-3) Anthony Davis (NOP, 30.8 PER)
91 (-3) Russell Westbrook (OKC, 29.1 PER)
91 (-3) Kevin Durant (OKC, 27.6 PER)
91 (+5) Kawhi Leonard (SAS, 22.0 PER)
90 (+3) John Wall (WAS, 19.9 PER)
89 (-5) James Harden (HOU, 26.7 PER)
89 (+1) Kyrie Irving (CLE, 21.5 PER)

If I took that and gave +2 OVR to each PF/C and -2 to each PG
94/SF LeBron James (CLE, 25.9 PER)
93/PF Anthony Davis (NOP, 30.8 PER)
93/PG Chris Paul (LAC, 26.0 PER)
92/PG Stephen Curry (GSW, 28.0 PER)
91/SF Kevin Durant (OKC, 27.6 PER)
91/SF Kawhi Leonard (SAS, 22.0 PER)
90/C DeMarcus Cousins (SAC, 25.2 PER)
90/C DeAndre Jordan (LAC, 21.0 PER)
89/PG Russell Westbrook (OKC, 29.1 PER)
89/SG James Harden (HOU, 26.7 PER)

I don't have much of a problem with 2K's top 10. Melo is overrated trash (esp compared to Kawhi) and always has been, but what can you do.

Given that we're only talking about the top 1-3 at each position and that these are the ones 2K spends the most time fine tuning, there really shouldn't be any problems here as far as "rankings" go. It's the next 50 players at each position that are the problem.

[BigT34]

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I kind of like that the single OVR formula seems to overvalue offensive ability, just as teams do in real life.

See Melo's presence here, and the absence of any true center.

If you put any stock in Wins Produced/48, which attempts to measure the marginal value of specific events, and, unlike a lot of stats like PER, actually accounts for shooting efficiency, DeAndre Jordan led the league last year, followed by Steph Curry and CP3. You could certainly make a case that DeAndre is one of the 10 best players in the NBA.

If you go back and look at WP/48 over the past decade or so, it generally tracks well with who we think of as having been the best players in a given year, but it always serves up some interesting surprises.

What will be interesting is if, in spite of not having a top-10 OVR, he could make just as valuable a contribution to your roster in 2k16. If so, that leads to some exciting chances to find hidden value in players with the right skills, just like in real life.

[fatboirob]

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I see Harden,Westbrook, Durant,Paul, and Davis being better than Curry. Just my opinion!

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[Real2KInsider]

Re: NBA 2K16 Player Ratings - Top 10 Players

I kind of like that the single OVR formula seems to overvalue offensive ability, just as teams do in real life.

The problem there is the OVR is much more important for the AI's decision-making than it is to any human-based ones. The AI does not have the freedom to find hidden gems, which will lead to offense-only lineups and ineffectively built rosters.

Modern NBA teams caught onto the Bruce Bowen type long ago (and why such players are necessary alongside great offensive players) and it's inexcusable for 2K not to keep pace with the line of thinking.

You won't see this all in a league-wide top 10 list. It becomes rather evident the further down you go. Danny Green isn't even a top 20 SG while Kobe Bryant is top 5 (etc).

[Kese86]

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Rabble! Rabble! Rabble!

[noodlebombz]

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I feel you shouldn't be considered a top 10 player if your team only won 17 games last season.
That's just my crazy belief thou.

[rudeworld]

I feel you shouldn't be considered a top 10 player if your team only won 17 games last season.
That's just my crazy belief thou.

So you punish a guy for playing on a bad leg? Then getting injured? While out a D-league team was on court?..... so he falls out the top 10 because of what?

[raiderphantom]

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I'll just say I have my own opinions. There's a couple inefficient players here that wouldn't crack my top 10 personally.

[Jonjon22]

Blake griffin should at least be a 90 overall

[Dmanning2]

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Folks really think Kawhi is better than Melo.

[Sundown]

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The problem there is the OVR is much more important for the AI's decision-making than it is to any human-based ones. The AI does not have the freedom to find hidden gems, which will lead to offense-only lineups and ineffectively built rosters.

Modern NBA teams caught onto the Bruce Bowen type long ago (and why such players are necessary alongside great offensive players) and it's inexcusable for 2K not to keep pace with the line of thinking.

You won't see this all in a league-wide top 10 list. It becomes rather evident the further down you go. Danny Green isn't even a top 20 SG while Kobe Bryant is top 5 (etc).

Leftos has confirmed that the team building logic no longer works by OVR alone and actually understands fit and roster construction, so if properly designed, offense only teams shouldn't be a thing unless it was trying to replicate actual offense only teams which would be pretty cool.

That said, skewed OVR will cause some decisions to lean the wrong way, and the standard 77 for 3 and D guys and 81-85s for no defense low efficiency chuckers is a big problem.

[Focus10]

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Is Dame even a top 15 player? I guess he probably is, but he needs to put some effort on the other side of the court.

IDK why people hated on Lillard for those comments. He was being honest on how he felt being snubbed in ASG. We want players to give honest answers and when they do, fans start bitching about it, blows my mind man.

[AnnihilusLivius]

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Folks really think Kawhi is better than Melo.

Aham...because he is? What makes you think Melo is better than Kawhi? Because he can put 50 in a game and simply let's the other team score 40 on him...?

Don't get me wrong, he's a tremendous player on the Offensive side, but on the D, he has the potential and the body for it, but he just doesn't like to work for it. That's what I hate about him and love about Kawhi.

[ATLBrayden]

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I'm just here for the overreaction posts.

Kwame Brown not in the top 10??? Already cancelled my pre-order and bought four copies of Live.

[tt500]

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If only Melo has a team around him where he can play like he does in the Olympics. Instead of those dreadful half court iso he gets put in...

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