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  • mfp
    Rookie
    • Nov 2010
    • 377

    #196
    Re: FIFA 16 Available Today, Post Your Impressions

    Personally I've always found it better to play on the higher difficulties and adjust from there. You get to see the best of the AI that way. If you play on Pro you're going to see too many poor decisions by the CPU - even top players will make some truly baffling decisions at times.

    I do agree that out the box, Pro feels the best balanced difficulty level, mainly because it's easier to apply realistic pressure to the CPU when it's in possession, but it just gets too easy the more you learn the game.

    Also, for people struggling to apply pressure to the CPU on WC or above (and I include myself in that group), have people experimented with using quick tactics, custom tactics, and defense/attack mentalities? I've heard elsewhere that they can be effective when you come up against a CPU team that's doing well to keep possession from you, but haven't had the time to properly test myself.

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    • Wavebird99
      MVP
      • May 2009
      • 1208

      #197
      Re: FIFA 16 Available Today, Post Your Impressions

      Just to clarify - the sliders work where 50 and higher mean MORE of something right.

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      • BrianFifaFan
        Semi-retired
        • Oct 2003
        • 4144

        #198
        Re: FIFA 16 Available Today, Post Your Impressions

        I'm loving World Class. I think that's my level for my CM.
        Note to Tiburon Marketing:

        A great product sells itself, no "back of the box" features required! (See Fifa...)

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        • SpritePuck
          Rookie
          • May 2014
          • 408

          #199
          Re: FIFA 16 Available Today, Post Your Impressions

          So, the general concenses is dumb down World Class with sliders over boosting Pro with sliders?

          This is more tricky to me as on World Class I find teams holding possesion but not creating chances. On Pro they seem attack more and shoot more. They miss a lot on Pro, but against me take more shots. On World Class they miss less but shoot way less...

          Has anyone tried boosting Pro? All the sliders I find are dumbing down World Class... A few slider sets I tested made World Class actually easier than Pro just with lower scores because the CPU became possesion nuts and never shot the ball. Maybe it is a guy thing to think higher difficulty dumb down is better than lower difficulty boosted, or maybe it is just better. IDK

          I am going to try boosting Pro (when it becomes too easy) as to me the CPU plays more realistic tactics on that level. I can win on World Class now but never score more than a goal and the CPU has never scored more than two against me. To me that is not sim...
          Last edited by SpritePuck; 09-27-2015, 04:11 PM.

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          • mebby
            Rookie
            • Dec 2008
            • 234

            #200
            Re: FIFA 16 Available Today, Post Your Impressions

            Originally posted by SpritePuck
            So, the general concenses is dumb down World Class with sliders over boosting Pro with sliders?

            This is more tricky to me as on World Class I find teams holding possesion but not creating chances. On Pro they seem attack more and shoot more. They miss a lot on Pro, but against me take more shots. On World Class they miss less but shoot way less...

            Has anyone tried boosting Pro? All the sliders I find are dumbing down World Class... A few slider sets I tested made World Class actually easier than Pro just with lower scores because the CPU became possesion nuts and never shot the ball. Maybe it is a guy thing to think higher difficulty dumb down is better than lower difficulty boosted, or maybe it is just better. IDK

            I am going to try boosting Pro (when it becomes too easy) as to me the CPU plays more realistic tactics on that level. I can win on World Class now but never score more than a goal and the CPU has never scored more than two against me. To me that is not sim...

            So I've been going back and forth and I can't quite decide where I'm going to land.

            I agree with you that WC can simply turn into a possession fest with little scoring or pressing forward. I thought I was loving WC with OS sliders until I tested it with two mismatched teams. I was Man City playing against the worst FB1 team I could find. I beat them easily enough but they out possessed me 60/40. It just didn't feel right.

            On Pro I find that the CPU defense is way too lax when I'm in their box. I've had cpu marking as high as 75% and still didn't see much of a change. I'll keep testing out Pro but I still think I'm always going to find it too easy regardless of what slider adjustments I make.

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            • mfp
              Rookie
              • Nov 2010
              • 377

              #201
              Re: FIFA 16 Available Today, Post Your Impressions

              Originally posted by SpritePuck
              So, the general concenses is dumb down World Class with sliders over boosting Pro with sliders?

              This is more tricky to me as on World Class I find teams holding possesion but not creating chances. On Pro they seem attack more and shoot more. They miss a lot on Pro, but against me take more shots. On World Class they miss less but shoot way less...

              Has anyone tried boosting Pro? All the sliders I find are dumbing down World Class... A few slider sets I tested made World Class actually easier than Pro just with lower scores because the CPU became possesion nuts and never shot the ball. Maybe it is a guy thing to think higher difficulty dumb down is better than lower difficulty boosted, or maybe it is just better. IDK

              I am going to try boosting Pro (when it becomes too easy) as to me the CPU plays more realistic tactics on that level. I can win on World Class now but never score more than a goal and the CPU has never scored more than two against me. To me that is not sim...
              The problem with boosting pro has always been that you can't boost the AI's decision making. Not only is the AI more intelligent with how it defends but if you play on Pro you're going to miss out on some pretty intelligent attacking moves by the cpu.

              But I do agree that pro is the better balanced difficulty out of the box and just feels much better.
              Last edited by mfp; 09-27-2015, 10:09 PM.

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              • rckabillyRaider
                MVP
                • Jul 2008
                • 4399

                #202
                Re: FIFA 16 Available Today, Post Your Impressions

                I've been boosting Pro and so far so good.

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                • ImTellinTim
                  YNWA
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 33043

                  #203
                  Re: FIFA 16 Available Today, Post Your Impressions

                  Originally posted by mebby
                  So I've been going back and forth and I can't quite decide where I'm going to land.

                  I agree with you that WC can simply turn into a possession fest with little scoring or pressing forward. I thought I was loving WC with OS sliders until I tested it with two mismatched teams. I was Man City playing against the worst FB1 team I could find. I beat them easily enough but they out possessed me 60/40. It just didn't feel right.

                  On Pro I find that the CPU defense is way too lax when I'm in their box. I've had cpu marking as high as 75% and still didn't see much of a change. I'll keep testing out Pro but I still think I'm always going to find it too easy regardless of what slider adjustments I make.
                  The first paragraph is what my problem with WC is. It makes bad teams/players too good. The boosts the AI receives eliminate the feel of being able to boss a game against a team you should be able to. Maybe I'm just not that good, but I got beat 3-0 by Chelsea at Stamford Bridge on Pro and it felt really organic. When I tried pressing to get a goal, they killed me on the counter. Right now, I started a Sounders MM, and am playing a preseason tourney in Mexico. I beat some low-level team from South America handily, and now I'm playing Santos Laguna, and the skill level/pressing of the opposition is like night and day. I'd rather it be a little on the easy side over every match feeling the same.

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                  • BL8001
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 1885

                    #204
                    Re: FIFA 16 Available Today, Post Your Impressions

                    The weird thing with difficulty is always the wildcard of fut.

                    And what makes me mad about this is this year, fut can be competitive on semi-pro, pro and wc in ways the normal game modes cannot be.

                    The cpu will exploit space and attack you more like a human does. The cpu isnt at all methodical to the point of putting you to sleep.

                    But what do you get instead of constant 10m passes?

                    Field swaps, incredible accurate silly silly silly field swaps.

                    I thought the pinpoint to start counter attack cpu goal mouth clearances from previous fifa's were irritating but these new field swaps might take the cake.

                    Nothing quite like having the cpu pinned against the touchline with their back to the field and they turn back and field swap instantaneously creating a breakout on the far side of the field. And if you recover to shut it down they just field swap again.

                    The most I have seen them do it is 9 times in a row, after that spell of ridiculousness I got the game box out and checked to see if I bought grand slam tennis 16...
                    resident curmudgeon

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                    • elprez98
                      MVP
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 4238

                      #205
                      Re: FIFA 16 Available Today, Post Your Impressions

                      So looks like EA turned back on the FIFA 15 trash online with nerfed foul calls.


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                      • BrianFifaFan
                        Semi-retired
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 4144

                        #206
                        Re: FIFA 16 Available Today, Post Your Impressions

                        Do not play World Class at 3:45 AM. Vardy just shredded my leaky back four at their stadium. I lost 2-1, but it wouldn't have been that close if the CPU hadn't taken Rooney down from behind and got a straight red. Still, they ended up scoring a second goal with Darmian losing Vardy for a shot DeGea couldn't quite keep out. I didn't score until a penalty in the 87th minute. Dang, the CPU is brutal. Love it!
                        Note to Tiburon Marketing:

                        A great product sells itself, no "back of the box" features required! (See Fifa...)

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                        • iaxy
                          Rookie
                          • Aug 2005
                          • 273

                          #207
                          Re: FIFA 16 Available Today, Post Your Impressions

                          Originally posted by BL8001
                          The weird thing with difficulty is always the wildcard of fut.

                          And what makes me mad about this is this year, fut can be competitive on semi-pro, pro and wc in ways the normal game modes cannot be.

                          The cpu will exploit space and attack you more like a human does. The cpu isnt at all methodical to the point of putting you to sleep.

                          But what do you get instead of constant 10m passes?

                          Field swaps, incredible accurate silly silly silly field swaps.

                          I thought the pinpoint to start counter attack cpu goal mouth clearances from previous fifa's were irritating but these new field swaps might take the cake.

                          Nothing quite like having the cpu pinned against the touchline with their back to the field and they turn back and field swap instantaneously creating a breakout on the far side of the field. And if you recover to shut it down they just field swap again.

                          The most I have seen them do it is 9 times in a row, after that spell of ridiculousness I got the game box out and checked to see if I bought grand slam tennis 16...
                          I have a problem with this too. The CPU's choice and accuracy in making these sort of blind passes ruins the game IMO.

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                          • fearwhatnow
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 1476

                            #208
                            Re: FIFA 16 Available Today, Post Your Impressions

                            Originally posted by BrianFifaFan
                            Do not play World Class at 3:45 AM. Vardy just shredded my leaky back four at their stadium. I lost 2-1, but it wouldn't have been that close if the CPU hadn't taken Rooney down from behind and got a straight red. Still, they ended up scoring a second goal with Darmian losing Vardy for a shot DeGea couldn't quite keep out. I didn't score until a penalty in the 87th minute. Dang, the CPU is brutal. Love it!
                            Yup, you need to be fresh to play this game on WC difficulty. Arsenal crashed me (Leicester) 1-5 (2-5 was the result on real life last Saturday!). After this defeat my team is torn apart. I have now 4 consecutive losses and I'm really struggling. I think I need to deploy some more conservative tactics or else I'll fight to avoid going down. Cpu AI is impressive imo. It's amazing how thet adapt and respond with tactical changes.

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                            • onetwothree123
                              Just started!
                              • Sep 2015
                              • 2

                              #209
                              Re: FIFA 16 Available Today, Post Your Impressions

                              I'm struggling to create a yard with the ball carrier. I used to use L1 a lot in '15 to stop the player and change direction/drag the ball back and move to create a bit of space for a dribble/pass/shot but they changed the way that button works which is frustrating. Even once I realised that you need to just tap it once rather than hold for a bit it doesn't seem to work properly for me and then the player just seems sluggish and any attempt to change direction with the ball results in the defender winning a tackle. Even when shielding the ball to change direction 'safely' and make a pass, the AI seems to win the ball through my player way too often. Any tips?

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                              • fearwhatnow
                                MVP
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 1476

                                #210
                                Re: FIFA 16 Available Today, Post Your Impressions

                                Originally posted by iaxy
                                I have a problem with this too. The CPU's choice and accuracy in making these sort of blind passes ruins the game IMO.
                                Have you guys seen any BPL match lately? 9 out of 10 field swaps are pinpoint accurate for all teams. Close distance passes are also fast and pretty accurate for over the half teams. What do you mean "blind" passes? There are no blind passes in FIFA 16 compared to the ridiculous psychic passing in FIFA 15.
                                Against mediocre/low rated I dictate the pace in World Class and they can't even hold possession for too long as I force them to make an error. I'm not using a top team, I use Leicester. I can't even imagine how they will struggle if I play them with a top team.

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