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  • tessl
    All Star
    • Apr 2007
    • 5685

    #286
    Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #2 Available Now, Full Details Included

    Originally posted by Armor and Sword
    With all due respect. The drive goals were a major new feature and design decision. Tiburon feels there is nothing wrong with it.

    Can they improve it for Madden 17? Absolutely. Just like they gave us the ability to raise confidence below 50 to keep the playing field more level in our CFM's.

    I have been playing 32 team control and it has been awesome. On the other hand I am also playing a solo offline fantasy CFM and drive goals are there and I have had basically zero issues in my enjoyment of the game.

    There is a loud minority about this perceived issue. I say perceived because the guys who designed and programed the game obviously think it is just fine as it is.

    They are not changing a major back of the box feature via a patch this year.

    The pros and cons of this new feature have been talked about ad nausem and i am sure the team see's the various thoughts and will take plenty into account for Madden 17.

    What I am saying is......it is not changing. So let's move on.

    Enjoy the game. It is really good. IF you can't overlook something like that....well, that's too bad.

    At least for myself....I can, I have and I am loving Madden 16.
    The simple fix would be to put an on/off switch in settings. If you think uber confidence and drive goals are a fantastic idea then turn the switch on. If you want a more realistic game you can turn it off.

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    • pepto
      Rookie
      • Mar 2013
      • 9

      #287
      Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #2 Available Now, Full Details Included

      I have strong feeling, that patch #2 eliminates the tuning update. After patch many one handed and spectacular catches are again in the game as well as Peyton scrambling and Russel/Colin not...

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      • SwaggerCoach
        MVP
        • Oct 2011
        • 1342

        #288
        Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #2 Available Now, Full Details Included

        Originally posted by pepto
        I have strong feeling, that patch #2 eliminates the tuning update. After patch many one handed and spectacular catches are again in the game as well as Peyton scrambling and Russel/Colin not...

        That hasn't been my experience so far. If anything, I'm seeing even more aggressive play from defensive backs - especially safeties.

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        • Armor and Sword
          The Lama
          • Sep 2010
          • 21794

          #289
          Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #2 Available Now, Full Details Included

          So all this testing with QB AWR and LT Regression all fresh new CFM files or anyone seeing this on current CFM sims without restarting.

          I just want to know if I should restart my 32 team CFM to get those benefits.
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          • DeuceDouglas
            Madden Dev Team
            • Apr 2010
            • 4297

            #290
            Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #2 Available Now, Full Details Included

            Just played a quick game with a fresh CCM on 6 minute quarters, no accel and can confirm they have definitely changed Drive Goals.

            It seems that now you are limited to strictly 1 point of confidence boost each week regardless of the amount of drive goals you complete. I played the game specifically trying to accomplish as many of them as possible and completed all but I think two and after the game nobody had any more than one Dynamic Drive Goal with a +1 in their confidence changes. I'm not sure if you get more XP or XP more often but it seemed like that could be the case. I don't believe they changed how it's distributed because players that didn't even play still got the +1 for doing nothing. I think they just capped it out at 1 so if you complete a drive goal, that side of the ball gets +1 for the game and that's that. There might be more to it than this but seeing as how I'm never going to be using Drive Goals I'm not going to spend any more time testing any further.

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            • IcedCoffee1983
              Banned
              • Jul 2015
              • 836

              #291
              Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #2 Available Now, Full Details Included

              Originally posted by GrayDawg
              Anyone know why there is no in game drill on game prep for wr, te,and ol? I expected this to be patched. Now I am thinking this is by design since you can build up confidence with these positions. I never use confidence since it works its self out during the season. XP is pretty limited as it is so I see no reason not to have in game drills for every position.
              You will need to re-start your franchise to get the WR TE and OL drills to show up.

              It's already been confirmed the patch fixed this, but not for existing franchises.

              Honestly, I just am starting over with all my offline franchises, there are way too many fixes this time not do start over.

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              • mavfan21
                MVP
                • Jul 2007
                • 1842

                #292
                Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #2 Available Now, Full Details Included

                BUT I JUST DRAFTED A STUD QB!!!!!!

                sigh....

                Time to start a new CFM.
                Don't look back too long and don't look too far ahead.

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                • roadman
                  *ll St*r
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 26339

                  #293
                  Re: Madden Patch #2 Is Live

                  Originally posted by Millennium
                  Have you tested this yourself, or are you going off the patch notes?
                  3rd post in the thread, need to give credit when credit is due.

                  Armour & Sword found out right away that the defensive camera was working even though it wasn't listed specifically under the patch notes.

                  It would probably fall under the catogory of 100 bug fixes and the same with drive goals.

                  So happy I can start my franchise now.

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                  • Mikee82087
                    Rookie
                    • May 2015
                    • 19

                    #294
                    Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #2 Available Now, Full Details Included

                    So should I install patch #2 and delete the tuner and redownload it like we had to do for patch #1 or is anyone not noticing and issues with that this time around?

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                    • booker21
                      MVP
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 4928

                      #295
                      Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #2 Available Now, Full Details Included

                      Originally posted by DeuceDouglas
                      Just played a quick game with a fresh CCM on 6 minute quarters, no accel and can confirm they have definitely changed Drive Goals.

                      It seems that now you are limited to strictly 1 point of confidence boost each week regardless of the amount of drive goals you complete. I played the game specifically trying to accomplish as many of them as possible and completed all but I think two and after the game nobody had any more than one Dynamic Drive Goal with a +1 in their confidence changes. I'm not sure if you get more XP or XP more often but it seemed like that could be the case. I don't believe they changed how it's distributed because players that didn't even play still got the +1 for doing nothing. I think they just capped it out at 1 so if you complete a drive goal, that side of the ball gets +1 for the game and that's that. There might be more to it than this but seeing as how I'm never going to be using Drive Goals I'm not going to spend any more time testing any further.
                      Hey, that would be awesome.

                      I posted on the other thread but i will post it here instead.

                      Drive goals are very easy to find out if they are tweaked or not. Basically, when Drive goals are working before patch, you will get +1 for EVERY drive goal you met. So if you meet 6, you will get 6 boost for all players.

                      So by just playing one game and looking at the confidence break down you can see if they were tweaked.

                      This is my original post about that screenshot dobson posted.


                      First don´t play with my feelings!!

                      second. you are not playing against another user or 32 team offline, right?

                      I will be honest here, i didn´t even try to play a game without the workaround since there were no Patch notes and this was a HUGE issue to not be added on the patch notes if it was fixed it.

                      Now, looking at your screenshot, i can´t really see the confidence break down list changes, they are cut, but none seem to be showing Dynamic Drive Goals. So if that screenshot if from a game that you actually played and you did complete some Drive Goals they are definitely turned off.

                      When drive goals are working and you get them, they will be listed like the screenshot below.



                      When they are disable, by the workaround you get these



                      Anyone else could start a franchise and play a game without the work around, advance week and post the screenshot showing the confidence breakdown? I´m at work. for 4 more hours!
                      Last edited by booker21; 10-01-2015, 12:37 PM.
                      English, is not my first language.

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                      • toneloc129
                        Rookie
                        • Sep 2015
                        • 91

                        #296
                        Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #2 Available Now, Full Details Included

                        Did the patch fix the passing cam issue in CFM always being on in zoom view?

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                        • RogueHominid
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 10900

                          #297
                          Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #2 Available Now, Full Details Included

                          Originally posted by SwaggerCoach
                          That hasn't been my experience so far. If anything, I'm seeing even more aggressive play from defensive backs - especially safeties.
                          Second this. HUM DB play is better post-patch w/ the tuner installed.

                          I saw Woodson break on a Cover 3 assignment to drill a players breaking into a post route right as the ball arrived that demonstrated way better zone awareness and ball skills than I had seen in probably 50 games of pre-patch #2 play. And I'm seeing plenty of balls knocked out by DBs contesting the catch.

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                          • DeuceDouglas
                            Madden Dev Team
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 4297

                            #298
                            Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #2 Available Now, Full Details Included

                            Originally posted by booker21
                            Anyone else could start a franchise and play a game without the work around, advance week and post the screenshot showing the confidence breakdown? I´m at work. for 4 more hours!
                            Here's from a game I played Pre-Patch



                            And this was from the game I played this morning



                            Someone can play more games to see if that trend continues and I'm guessing it will but you can already see a huge difference. I completed a large number of drive goals in both games and you can see the huge difference in results. I can't guarantee it but my guess still stands that they capped out the confidence gain from drive goals at 1.

                            EDIT: One thing you don't see in the first screenshot either is that even though it says +8, it doesn't include any of the other goals and/or gains from that game. IIRC, from that one game Jamaal Charles actually went up 16 in confidence even though it only said +8.
                            Last edited by DeuceDouglas; 10-01-2015, 01:07 PM.

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                            • GrayDawg
                              Pro
                              • Aug 2013
                              • 864

                              #299
                              Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #2 Available Now, Full Details Included

                              Originally posted by IcedCoffee1983
                              You will need to re-start your franchise to get the WR TE and OL drills to show up.

                              It's already been confirmed the patch fixed this, but not for existing franchises.

                              Honestly, I just am starting over with all my offline franchises, there are way too many fixes this time not do start over.
                              You got to be kidding me! Is there a chance things reset in the next season.

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                              • Brandwin
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 30621

                                #300
                                Re: Madden NFL 16 Title Update #2 Available Now, Full Details Included

                                I was getting those small increases with the work around, so there's no difference other than not having to do the work around, correct? A few seasons in and there will be multiple guys with 99 confidence?

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